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On the eve of this election, there's something I need your help to understand [View all] WilliamPitt Nov 2014 OP

Brand loyalty. And yet we think we're so much superior to the Republicans because we're blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #1

Bzzzt. The Democratic party is vastly superior to the Republican party. tridim Nov 2014 #7

He;'s not talking about 'parties'. He's talking about voters. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #11

Democrats ARE the Democratic Party. tridim Nov 2014 #14

Oh how I wish that was actually true. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #23

It would solve a lot of problems, wouldn't it. WilliamPitt Nov 2014 #64

wow, that would indeed make things so much easier. nashville_brook Nov 2014 #85

+1 merrily Nov 2014 #229

What's amazing is that you think that. The grassroots of the Democratic Party are against fracking. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #208

Being against something doesn't matter much if you don't act upon it. The majority ignore primaries. Chathamization Nov 2014 #220

If a voter is against fracking who should they vote for? Does the Democratic Party support fracking rhett o rick Nov 2014 #221

They should have voted for the Democrats who were running on anti-fracking messages? Chathamization Nov 2014 #222

Who is running on an anti-fracking message besides in NY & NC? RiverLover Nov 2014 #230

It doesn't seem like anti-fracking candidates are exactly non-existent in CO Chathamization Nov 2014 #293

Refusing to vote for a pro-TPP, pro-fracking candidate IS acting on it. Doctor_J Nov 2014 #256

We get the government we show up for YoungDemCA Nov 2014 #272

Is That A Joke? billhicks76 Nov 2014 #237

Nail head Thespian2 Nov 2014 #250

Thanks...Prescott Bush Was A Traitor billhicks76 Nov 2014 #296

How do you define 'democrat'? It isn't just a letter and it's amazing, speaking of amazing, that sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #288

Hear hear! True Blue Door Nov 2014 #72

No way, baby!!! vlyons Nov 2014 #104

rec. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2014 #2

thank you for this. +1000000000 NRaleighLiberal Nov 2014 #3

Bingo vi5 Nov 2014 #4

Yep RobertEarl Nov 2014 #5

No you didn't. zappaman Nov 2014 #45

I joined in 2005 specifically to rock the kooky boat nine years later. Orrex Nov 2014 #52

Your posts seem to Be Free of pro environmental messages CreekDog Nov 2014 #120

There was a poll another user did recently that asked people to vote for their Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #6

Actually... jeff47 Nov 2014 #15

I vote in every primary. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #26

Then you should bother reading the last sentence before complaining. jeff47 Nov 2014 #29

Funny you should mention 'Captain Orange' Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #38

You really should try to actually get all the way through a post sometime. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2014 #41

And you might want to try to learn the reality of politics. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #53

You're "brining up issues" that are addressed in the posts you reply to jeff47 Nov 2014 #102

I have a feeling he knows that reality very well. merrily Nov 2014 #234

This is exactly what happened in Ohio RiverLover Nov 2014 #232

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #99

Then the last sentence applies. jeff47 Nov 2014 #103

Bingo MaggieD Nov 2014 #278

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #17

As I pointed out elsewhere, the % of time you vote with Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #27

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #60

ROVE and Company love this, they love watching us act like adults, something they are randys1 Nov 2014 #277

I criticize the Democratic party often, ZombieHorde Nov 2014 #225

So true! I tout Bernie Sanders because of his pledge to fight for Publicly Funded Elections and Dustlawyer Nov 2014 #283

+1000000000000000 Thank you woo me with science Nov 2014 #286

Well said William Pitt ... I share your befuddlement 99th_Monkey Nov 2014 #8

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #9

Do you really think WilliamPitt Nov 2014 #13

Possibly ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #28

I can see the headline WilliamPitt Nov 2014 #39

Are you reading what I wrote, or just responding to the voice(s) in your head? ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #62

Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #68

Will, you are not displaying well ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #95

Crunch time WilliamPitt Nov 2014 #108

I'll repeat ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #118

omg -- if a DUer said it, it must be TRUE!! and lethal to the party! nashville_brook Nov 2014 #67

I can't tell what you are talking about? ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #113

I think you think that you don't need to follow the TOS. MADem Nov 2014 #146

Reminds me of an old saying. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #19

Because ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #33

You mean the attempts by the President? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #42

Okay. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #65

I wondered what that was about. Almost the entire Republican campaign strategy this year merrily Nov 2014 #233

No shit! It seems pretty clear to me! MADem Nov 2014 #145

But, at least I didn't drop another "watermelon" comment on him! eom. 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #152

Really. MADem Nov 2014 #156

The problems will still be around on Wednesday. jeff47 Nov 2014 #10

+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #35

Exactly right on all counts. stevenleser Nov 2014 #115

With that last paragraph, you are too charitable. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #213

I agree with him 1000% and I'm still voting D RiverLover Nov 2014 #235

That has nothing to do with what I wrote. What you personally are doing is not at issue. stevenleser Nov 2014 #260

+1 n/t jaysunb Nov 2014 #140

+ 1,000,000,000 What You Said !!! WillyT Nov 2014 #12

calling the Democratic President a Piece of Shit Used Car Salesman does not = Debate. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #16

Sure inspired a lot of debate around here. WilliamPitt Nov 2014 #18

It's still a hot debate Will... by people who weren't even members at the time Autumn Nov 2014 #163

LOL WilliamPitt Nov 2014 #165

Yeah not to terribly Puglover Nov 2014 #248

Hey Puglover. How goes it? Autumn Nov 2014 #257

Going good Autumn. Puglover Nov 2014 #258

Last winter here? You are so lucky Autumn Nov 2014 #259

How I see that situation RobertEarl Nov 2014 #24

If that is what WP meant ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #36

Pitt was faced with a bad personal situation when he wrote that RobertEarl Nov 2014 #47

"That.... many here are off kilter in their words here on DU." zappaman Nov 2014 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #56

I consider the President a better friend than W. Pitt LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #61

Read the OP again. RobertEarl Nov 2014 #69

Of course you see the situation wrongly. zappaman Nov 2014 #46

There must be scads of Online Writing courses, LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #74

You claim RobertEarl Nov 2014 #82

Well then, why did he say that in the title of his OP? MADem Nov 2014 #154

Damn ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #214

If people here went after republicans... RobertEarl Nov 2014 #218

Funny you should say that ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #240

"Still carrying it around?" Puglover Nov 2014 #274

You'd think someone who styles himself a writer would have made that clearer, then. MADem Nov 2014 #148

Spend a bit of time reviewing the things said to LGBT people simply for advocating our own equality Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #20

This is truth. Ed Suspicious Nov 2014 #116

I think that you've made the best point so far... Blanks Nov 2014 #201

Thank you, thank you, thank you, Will Pitt . . . markpkessinger Nov 2014 #21

How many here were here since 2001? JaneyVee Nov 2014 #22

So what, if we're 'newer immigrants' we don't matter? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #30

What the hell does that mean, and.... JaneyVee Nov 2014 #31

"How many here were here since 2001?" Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #40

Some have solidarity for principles, others for labels. If a pro-TPP, pro-fracking, pro-insurance, Doctor_J Nov 2014 #261

Thank you. I vote for principal. 840high Nov 2014 #25

!... TeeYiYi Nov 2014 #43

K&R! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2014 #32

Seriously, here's the deal maxrandb Nov 2014 #34

+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #48

Absolutely right on. olegramps Nov 2014 #86

*Standing Ovation. Why does this have to be said and resaid over and over? LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #97

Define "the country" - TBF Nov 2014 #105

Where to start maxrandb Nov 2014 #167

Excellent start - TBF Nov 2014 #188

"The republicans co-opting of religion" Martin Eden Nov 2014 #241

Great post - TBF Nov 2014 #242

Thank you for this. It IS more than a game for most of us in the real world. canoeist52 Nov 2014 #168

Excellent retort TBF. Outstanding. Well Said! Sadly it goes right over their heads. 2banon Nov 2014 #186

+1. I find your last line the most compelling LordGlenconner Nov 2014 #121

Your problem is not on DU - TBF Nov 2014 #190

And your problem is you covet the struggle LordGlenconner Nov 2014 #270

If you have no idea who Greg Abbott is TBF Nov 2014 #279

Self awareness is good thing LordGlenconner Nov 2014 #281

Jesus Cripes Almighty. I have never seen folks RUN, not walk, RUN to wear the mantle of perceived Number23 Nov 2014 #292

You wrote a lot of words and didn't address his question. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #131

I thought that's what we were doing? maxrandb Nov 2014 #180

You're debating something different. LWolf Nov 2014 #244

I agree with some of what you said, but here's the problem Hippo_Tron Nov 2014 #135

Because you would not have gotten Single Payer maxrandb Nov 2014 #173

Again, why couldn't we have gotten it though? Hippo_Tron Nov 2014 #196

Have you forgotten about the "Blue Dogs?" markpkessinger Nov 2014 #295

Indeed. Maedhros Nov 2014 #136

This message was self-deleted by its author ancianita Nov 2014 #210

Thank you. woo me with science Nov 2014 #251

+1 nt steve2470 Nov 2014 #138

Mercy ! n/t jaysunb Nov 2014 #142

WooHoo! Dont call me Shirley Nov 2014 #158

RIGHTEOUS! !!!!! NT GusBob Nov 2014 #160

THANK YOU! betsuni Nov 2014 #211

That's a long, passionate post LWolf Nov 2014 #245

And you're missing the point maxrandb Nov 2014 #285

I don't think so. LWolf Nov 2014 #291

Exactly MaggieD Nov 2014 #275

^^excellent^^ freshwest Nov 2014 #294

I took this test (New York) and apparently I agree slightly more with the Green Party candidates Rhiannon12866 Nov 2014 #37

I'm surprised too. ablamj Nov 2014 #176

I did better on Socialist than Libertarian, don't remember exactly Rhiannon12866 Nov 2014 #191

If Dems lose seats tomorrow, it's all your fault. MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 #44

That does seem to be the message, every single cycle. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #70

I like your thinking. We can award him the "Nader Scapegoat" award. I am sure the DNC will rhett o rick Nov 2014 #137

Amen, Will. woo me with science Nov 2014 #49

Did you vote in New Hampshire's primary election this year, Will? MineralMan Nov 2014 #51

You're a dog with a bone. WilliamPitt Nov 2014 #63

You posted the bone, Will, on a public forum. MineralMan Nov 2014 #71

Jeez... Hissyspit Nov 2014 #77

*sigh* WilliamPitt Nov 2014 #79

Well, my first election was 1966. I registered on my birthday, too. MineralMan Nov 2014 #81

Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #193

I have never voted for a republican in my life. MineralMan Nov 2014 #194

but your OP sounds like you voted, like you always do... LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author Electric Monk Nov 2014 #144

Right on cue. Can you explain that oddity first, I may have misunderstood LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #155

Zombie sockpuppets don't get to even pretend they have some sort of moral high ground. Electric Monk Nov 2014 #157

Thanks, I haven't thought of this song for ages. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #161

Have I previously posted that video in reply to one of your earlier incarnations? Electric Monk Nov 2014 #166

Okay, you toodle off then. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #172

Thank you for keeping this thread active tonight Electric Monk Nov 2014 #189

Interesting, a boomer scolding a 13er. beerandjesus Nov 2014 #198

Apologies in advance WilliamPitt Nov 2014 #212

aka "Generation X" beerandjesus Nov 2014 #253

Nice to come back to DU and see things haven't changed at all. RetroLounge Nov 2014 #219

I'll send you the jury results as soon as I get them Autumn Nov 2014 #164

that jury took awhile GusBob Nov 2014 #171

Well I for one will keep critiquing whoever the fuck I want, just like always. Rex Nov 2014 #54

Even in Denmark? zappaman Nov 2014 #57

Well yeah, Denmark is special but you already knew that. Rex Nov 2014 #59

+10 840high Nov 2014 #169

amen, Will Pitt! nashville_brook Nov 2014 #55

I'm not going to try... That is why I have an (I) after my name rather than a (D) or (R) Xyzse Nov 2014 #58

Thank you, Will Oilwellian Nov 2014 #66

Extremely well written post Feral Child Nov 2014 #73

ask why they want to control the conversation... nashville_brook Nov 2014 #87

Dig it! n/t Feral Child Nov 2014 #96

I was wondering the same thing. Hissyspit Nov 2014 #75

Oooof. The Martyrs. alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #76

The obsession with the term "ratfucking" is telling. DirkGently Nov 2014 #78

+10000000 nashville_brook Nov 2014 #84

+1000000. n/t ms liberty Nov 2014 #174

My high school held pep rallies where faculty encouraged students to chant, "We're number one!" tclambert Nov 2014 #80

It can be explained, just not justified stupidicus Nov 2014 #83

I share your sentiment. onecaliberal Nov 2014 #88

We used to be called "Reds", "Commies", "Anarchists", "Peaceniks", and "Hippies". Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #89

And it's not like they've ever been proven right. DirkGently Nov 2014 #124

admittedly DonCoquixote Nov 2014 #90

I'd rather have a member of the House or Senate that votes with me 80% of the time, than a Ikonoklast Nov 2014 #91

"The perfect is the enemy of the good." WilliamPitt Nov 2014 #92

I have voted already. Straight Democratic ticket, top to bottom. Ikonoklast Nov 2014 #101

It appears that a number here have misunderstood the OP. You said, "People here tend to forget that rhett o rick Nov 2014 #129

If every Blue Dog had won their seat in the last mid-term, the House would have remained Democratic. Ikonoklast Nov 2014 #181

I wonder if you take the time to explain this ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #159

Naturally criticism is a necessity sadoldgirl Nov 2014 #94

Save this post. BKH70041 Nov 2014 #98

nope Skittles Nov 2014 #110

How do you know that for sure? BKH70041 Nov 2014 #139

I know it "for sure" because I have been on this site for 13 years Skittles Nov 2014 #200

The liberal bashing is really discouraging. I guess it was only a matter of time Doctor_J Nov 2014 #100

Ironic, that their claim is liberalism "depresses turnout," isn't it? DirkGently Nov 2014 #112

They bash Liberals to discourage them so they have someone smokey nj Nov 2014 #128

I consider myself a flaming liberal and trust me, SMC22307 Nov 2014 #224

oh, THEM Skittles Nov 2014 #106

Moderate Republicans have no place to go ... GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #107

And they bring their hatred of liberals and their DirkGently Nov 2014 #195

word up frylock Nov 2014 #282

I agree with you 100%� I just wish my democratic candidates would say as much in their campaigns. world wide wally Nov 2014 #109

K and R bigwillq Nov 2014 #111

I seem to recall that during the Bush years the "pom pom squad" Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #114

And Obama was a liberal pipedream! DirkGently Nov 2014 #119

Looks like the party has been co-opted by the Circle Dees. Tatiana Nov 2014 #117

Ratfucking = Dirty Tricks/Sabotage by political operatives. See Nixon admin emulatorloo Nov 2014 #122

"Infiltrators" seem more likely to call liberals "Ratfuckers" DirkGently Nov 2014 #192

It is appalling if some DU'ers are using the term that way. emulatorloo Nov 2014 #262

Very good! H2O Man Nov 2014 #123

Waterman WilliamPitt Nov 2014 #134

Thank you, Will. H2O Man Nov 2014 #204

Where to begin? hfojvt Nov 2014 #125

Well said, sir. hifiguy Nov 2014 #126

Can't explain it, Will. All I can think from right now until tomorrow is that all pundits have.... marble falls Nov 2014 #127

Nixon always had a Democratic House and Senate Art_from_Ark Nov 2014 #177

It's great that you vote on election day, Will. It's even BETTER if you VOTE EARLY. Damansarajaya Nov 2014 #130

Hatchet man.. Docross Nov 2014 #132

Anyone who tells me all Dems are the same is merely a parrot, a Limbot on the other side Roland99 Nov 2014 #133

It is simple really. Criticizing The POLICIES of the Conservadems exposes them for what they are Vincardog Nov 2014 #141

This IS election season here at DU. MADem Nov 2014 #143

Lol Boom Sound 416 Nov 2014 #147

Carl Jung had a term for it: enantiodromia-- Things turn into their opposites carolinayellowdog Nov 2014 #149

AHHHHHH!!!! mstinamotorcity2 Nov 2014 #150

There were a whole lot of fine DUers who got "ratfucked" during those "2,922 days". countryjake Nov 2014 #151

You remind me of a guy that whined and whined until he got a pony, then he CK_John Nov 2014 #153

''Are we really that chickenshit that we can't discuss and debate these serious issues...'' DeSwiss Nov 2014 #162

It's the Third Way doing pre-emptive damage control. Blame Zorra Nov 2014 #170

precisely. nashville_brook Nov 2014 #182

Exactly right. djean111 Nov 2014 #184

+1000 OrwellwasRight Nov 2014 #271

Exactly! or more succinctly� Fuck Yeah! Agony Nov 2014 #175

"Explain it to me." - Sure. You are spending your time with the wrong people. jtuck004 Nov 2014 #178

Thanks Will, great post. Scuba Nov 2014 #179

I haven't noticed that. ozone_man Nov 2014 #183

Kick !!! WillyT Nov 2014 #185

I stand. 99Forever Nov 2014 #187

We have alot of local issues going on Texasgal Nov 2014 #197

No problem bluedeer71 Nov 2014 #199

Ah Will... WillyT Nov 2014 #202

I don't worry about it treestar Nov 2014 #203

Did I miss it or just about miss it? What does the sign say ? lunasun Nov 2014 #205

What's worse than Ebola and more infectious? whereisjustice Nov 2014 #206

knr Douglas Carpenter Nov 2014 #207

Well over 150 recs and still going strong... woo me with science Nov 2014 #209

I just generally stay away from here ibegurpard Nov 2014 #215

I am very glad you bring this up... MrMickeysMom Nov 2014 #216

The explanation is easy. It's so much easier to blindly follow. It's so much easier to rhett o rick Nov 2014 #217

What absolute bilge n/t Jeff Rosenzweig Nov 2014 #226

Ahhh, what a perfect response. Those that criticize the Left have nothing but insults. I rest rhett o rick Nov 2014 #263

You didn't make a case. Jeff Rosenzweig Nov 2014 #280

Speaking of "puerile armchair pseudo-psychological gibberish, ", did you read what you posted? rhett o rick Nov 2014 #287

easy to be an UNDERGROUND when your party is out of the white house. yodermon Nov 2014 #223

Why haven't Democrats taken to the streets over Citizens United? SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2014 #227

Issues don't count.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #228

Apparently, the only reasons Democrats lose elections are not their respective messaging, not merrily Nov 2014 #231

Do you spend more time bashing red state dems or supporting liberal dems? IronLionZion Nov 2014 #236

"talk on DU won't swing one election" is the same argument as "my vote won't swing one election" muriel_volestrangler Nov 2014 #238

K&R Enthusiast Nov 2014 #239

De ja vu Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #243

K&R If we are too afraid to tackle the tough issues. Who won't be? raouldukelives Nov 2014 #246

Trivial. Look at the youth vote. Who motivates the youth? joshcryer Nov 2014 #247

Your post was alerted on and survived 5-2. Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #265

Thanks for letting me know. joshcryer Nov 2014 #266

Damn. DAYUM!! Number23 Nov 2014 #289

This is a great post. PatrickforO Nov 2014 #249

I think whoever got WP locked out of his own thread is the "ratfucker" Generic Other Nov 2014 #252

What ??? - When Did That Happen ??? WillyT Nov 2014 #264

That is shameful & really disappointing. RiverLover Nov 2014 #267

Too many 3rd wayers?... freebrew Nov 2014 #254

We're now supposed to stand for people, not principles Doctor_J Nov 2014 #255

x2 RiverLover Nov 2014 #269

Yeah thats why D and R labels are dead PatrynXX Nov 2014 #268

me, i, its because of the stupid assault on the man and the office mopinko Nov 2014 #273

I hate disingenuous thread titles MaggieD Nov 2014 #276

I agree. Great post Will. Owl Nov 2014 #284

K&R Jamastiene Nov 2014 #290