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In reply to the discussion: Noam Chomsky: "It's official: The U.S. is the world's leading terrorist state, and proud of it." [View all]dgauss
(1,536 posts)19. Interesting excerpt from the NYT article that Chomsky references...
But in April 2013, President Obama authorized the C.I.A. to begin a program to arm the rebels at a base in Jordan, and more recently the administration decided to expand the training mission with a larger parallel Pentagon program in Saudi Arabia to train vetted rebels to battle fighters of the Islamic State, with the aim of training approximately 5,000 rebel troops per year.
So far the efforts have been limited, and American officials said that the fact that the C.I.A. took a dim view of its own past efforts to arm rebel forces fed Mr. Obamas reluctance to begin the covert operation.
One of the things that Obama wanted to know was: Did this ever work? said one former senior administration official who participated in the debate and spoke anonymously because he was discussing a classified report. The C.I.A. report, he said, was pretty dour in its conclusions.
So far the efforts have been limited, and American officials said that the fact that the C.I.A. took a dim view of its own past efforts to arm rebel forces fed Mr. Obamas reluctance to begin the covert operation.
One of the things that Obama wanted to know was: Did this ever work? said one former senior administration official who participated in the debate and spoke anonymously because he was discussing a classified report. The C.I.A. report, he said, was pretty dour in its conclusions.
So here is Obama, asking the smart question, "Can you show me where this has worked in the past?"
The answer from the CIA seems to be "No not really."
The result, according to that article, was a sort of compromise.
Mr. Obama rejected that plan, but in the months that followed, Obama administration officials continued to debate the question of whether the C.I.A. should arm the rebels. Mr. Petraeuss original plan was reworked until Mr. Obama signed a secret order authorizing the covert training mission after intelligence agencies concluded that President Bashar al-Assad of Syria had used chemical weapons against opposition forces and civilians.
Asking if this kind of intervention has actually worked in the past is a good question, but maybe a better one would be to ask who has this kind of intervention worked well for in the past and who has suffered?
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Noam Chomsky: "It's official: The U.S. is the world's leading terrorist state, and proud of it." [View all]
kpete
Nov 2014
OP
Will you be voting for Obama's Terrorist Party tomorrow? Is this the Terrorist Underground?
baldguy
Nov 2014
#10
Chomsky certainly believes Obama is a terrorist. I'm just pointing out that Palin does too.
baldguy
Nov 2014
#13
If you lived with armed drones flying overhead and killing your neighbors from time to time..
Fumesucker
Nov 2014
#23
You think that is the most imminent physical threat people in Syria and Iraq face on a daily basis?
baldguy
Nov 2014
#30
I think Mr. Fuller is correct. There was no US conspiracy to create ISIS...
Comrade Grumpy
Nov 2014
#4
We sent all the jobs to India and China, violence is the only thing we know how to manufacture
whereisjustice
Nov 2014
#8
Sorry, but Noam Chomsky has orders of magnitude more credibility than you. [n/t]
Maedhros
Nov 2014
#28
Actual liberals don't take vile, unwarranted smears of racism lightly
woo me with science
Nov 2014
#55