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SoCalDem

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45. In a nutshell

Tue Nov 4, 2014, 08:17 AM

Nov 2014

WE are a diverse party with MANY factions.. real ones.. and our politicians always campaign scared..

They are always trying to be everything to everyone..

republicans use coded language to appeal to their base..they can do it because they have dwindled to a micro party, which has a voting-participation of greedy racists, bigots, and haters.

The money-men on the right don't give a crap about their issues..they want TAX relief and no rules, and they will give whatever it takes to get their folks elected. All they have to do is to scare enough ignorant people into voting against their own interests, and they win..

Our side actually has supporters with principled people (donors and voters) who often get pissed off if they think their particular issue gets a short shrift..and they stay home

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Why are our Democratic office-holders such shrinking violets? [View all] 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 OP

Why should they follow through? Maedhros Oct 2014 #1

politicians aren't much more than door to door salesmen, NM_Birder Oct 2014 #18

I'm thinking because ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #2

How about connecting SS to the Deficit, when every Dem knows that is not even sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #10

Notice how you left out what I wrote? I did. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #11

Needs an 'All of The Above' option. nt procon Oct 2014 #3

I Agree. 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #5

the corporate money is there so that the corporations eventually cultivate pols MisterP Oct 2014 #4

If not for the money, then why do the pols "do their [corporate] bidding"? nt 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #6

why, ideology! there's three nice big categories of human motivation: MisterP Oct 2014 #21

Other: Because they're perpetually afraid of losing the election that happened 10 years ago. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #7

The second option is interesting. WhiteAndNerdy Oct 2014 #8

I have toyed with the "remember JFK" theory for years hifiguy Oct 2014 #23

I don't know what ever gave you the impression that Obama was a "progressive" Spider Jerusalem Oct 2014 #9

Thank you ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #12

The one thing I find interesting, really... Spider Jerusalem Oct 2014 #32

++1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #34

Maybe because he ran on a Progressive agenda? Such as protecting teachers sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #13

+100 ~nt~ 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #19

That's nice, did he have a Congress that would vote for all of those things? Spider Jerusalem Nov 2014 #41

Yes, we won the House, Senate and WH. Remember? sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #48

Nope. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2014 #50

"Center right moderate".. I call bullshite. You don't call this Progress.. as in it's Progressive? Cha Nov 2014 #42

Mahalo Cha. I vote for Democrats too. lovemydog Nov 2014 #55

Are you UKian or USian, or both? merrily Nov 2014 #51

Both? Not sure what that has to do with anything, though. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2014 #53

Sorry. I noted the UK spelling convention and was curious. merrily Nov 2014 #54

Because they're, first and foremost, politicians whose goal is to get at retain power. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2014 #14

they are being spied on. mopinko Oct 2014 #15

You don't need a tinfoil hat. The CIA has admitted to spying on Congress 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #20

true shit. mopinko Oct 2014 #24

I voted "Other" because I think it was the smashing of Socialists and Communists in the 40s and 50s KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #16

Thank you for weighing in. 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #25

Yeah, the thought of McChinless at the Senate's helm for two years makes KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #28

When politicians,, ANY politicians are not held to the same NM_Birder Oct 2014 #17

Good one. 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #26

The DLC. hifiguy Oct 2014 #22

They "sold" the party to the 1% alright 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #27

It's a mix of both 1 and 3. F4lconF16 Oct 2014 #29

Yes, I wish I had provided more 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #30

I would agree that there is something to be said for #2. F4lconF16 Oct 2014 #31

I'll look for it 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #33

I haven't made it yet :P I'll pm you a link when I do. F4lconF16 Oct 2014 #36

Cool dat ~nt~ 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #39

Some aren't democrats. Puzzledtraveller Oct 2014 #35

Exactly. former9thward Oct 2014 #37

Republicans.... sendero Oct 2014 #38

Because of fickle supporters. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2014 #40

I voted #3; #1 necessarily follows that. Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #43

I voted the first option, but TransitJohn Nov 2014 #44

In a nutshell SoCalDem Nov 2014 #45

#1 & 3. Can't choose. nt. nc4bo Nov 2014 #46

Other. Office holder behavior is multi-factorial, if you can label major axes HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #47

Big $$$ pays them off closeupready Nov 2014 #49

I don't believe Democrats are shrinking violets. merrily Nov 2014 #52