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NM_Birder

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227. Here Ye Here Ye !

Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:05 PM

Nov 2014

"too many of us are now black, or Latino, or Gay or Asian or Muslim " .............. the hell does that have to do with it. really. don't hide behind your soft racism of not believing minorities are capable of accomplishing one of the most basic needs to survive in a society.

Without identification, what can you legally do ? you can't work, drive, apply for credit,....... you can't even go to the bar without ID. Yet you seem to think simply by being a minority, you are so handicapped that you are forced to give up your veteran fought for right to vote ? Here in NM, you don't even have to be a citizen, and well give you a state drivers license ......... BECAUSE YOU NEED IDENTIFICATION TO EXIST IN SOCIETY. The only time you have a problem with ID is voting, why does anyone have to have ID for anything ? Why should I have to prove I'm not you ?

Again, I don't understand why you think minorities are incapable of having ID. Regardless of sex, religion, sexual orientation or even allergy to processed food .............. I'm the one that doesn't think asking everyone to prove they are who they are, when they cast the ballot for the most powerful government in the world, is somehow more difficult if you are a part of a minority group?

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Is this correct ? [View all] NM_Birder Oct 2014 OP

lets see....hunting license acceptible VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #1

where is a hunting licence accepted as valid ID ? NM_Birder Oct 2014 #4

Texas... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #5

give me an example of what your hunting licence NM_Birder Oct 2014 #10

Not a hunting license, concealed/carry license B2G Oct 2014 #17

ID accepted in TX to vote: ctaylors6 Oct 2014 #35

All unconstitutional, dont you just love it how we are talking about ID as if it is legal randys1 Oct 2014 #80

I'm ctaylors6 Oct 2014 #95

Sorry, I wasnt going after you, I knew what you were doing, I am just relentless about this issue randys1 Oct 2014 #96

tennessee id law... spanone Nov 2014 #123

THIS IS FALSE. The poster has been informed this is FALSE and does not care to edit/correct. nt kelly1mm Nov 2014 #162

bull VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #165

You said Texas. Are you saying now the you were incorrect when you said TX allows voting kelly1mm Nov 2014 #167

have you provided a link to prove it? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #194

Link is in the body of this post. Now will you edit your false statement? kelly1mm Nov 2014 #195

Nowhere is a hunting license accepted while in that same state a college ID or utility bill kelly1mm Nov 2014 #158

and YOU are wrong VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #164

You are right - I edited my post. Will you do the same? nt kelly1mm Nov 2014 #168

why...did it hurt? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #191

I believe in admitiing when I am wrong and correcting the record. You apparently do not. nt kelly1mm Nov 2014 #196

but I am not....the point remains as Concealed VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #204

You said hunting licenses were allowed while college ID's were not. That is an incorrect statement. kelly1mm Nov 2014 #205

So? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #203

I don't know about hunting licenses but fishing licenses..... 4139 Oct 2014 #8

what does that have to do with it? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #13

It doesn't prove you live in that state B2G Oct 2014 #19

I don't think you can buy beer with just a college ID.... 4139 Oct 2014 #45

can you buy beer with your concealed carry permit? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #124

31 cases per one billion votes...31 cases per one billion votes that is billion with a B randys1 Oct 2014 #81

you have to have ID to get a fishing or hunting licence NM_Birder Oct 2014 #14

sorry, but in many states minors, with NO id can get hunting and fishing licenses. notrightatall Oct 2014 #28

sorry, minors can't vote or get social services in thier name. NM_Birder Oct 2014 #44

can they get a concealed carry? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #125

Minors ? ....no. NM_Birder Nov 2014 #131

can an adult? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #133

can you use your concealed carry, to get into your safety deposit box ? NM_Birder Nov 2014 #138

can you use it to vote? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #166

Can you get concealed carry without ID ? NM_Birder Nov 2014 #211

And I showed ID when i got voter registration VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #212

forgot, also need parent or guardian for hunting licence, AFTER NM_Birder Oct 2014 #48

31 cases per one billion votes...31 cases per one billion votes randys1 Oct 2014 #83

"billions" of votes, 31 cases ? baloney NM_Birder Nov 2014 #143

So facts mean nothing to you? randys1 Nov 2014 #170

31 cases in one billion. That is a "fact" ? NM_Birder Nov 2014 #176

Did you not read the link I posted? Hey, do you get paid to post here? just curious randys1 Nov 2014 #177

I'm not surprised you believe that Washington Post article, to be "fact" NM_Birder Nov 2014 #179

So you have a report that is credible that says otherwise? Let me answer for you, randys1 Nov 2014 #182

you cite opinion, not fact. there is a difference. NM_Birder Nov 2014 #184

I cited opinion? No, i didnt...so you didnt read the report, has nothing to do with randys1 Nov 2014 #185

If you read your own article, and still think it's fact. NM_Birder Nov 2014 #188

So you are here just to waste time, you got nothing and you know it...but you are being randys1 Nov 2014 #202

Is the article you posted fact or not? NM_Birder Nov 2014 #206

It is a fact that the investigation was done and they found 31 cases out of one billion votes randys1 Nov 2014 #223

Don't play the veteran guilt card with me. NM_Birder Nov 2014 #225

Look who's still here LOL randys1 Nov 2014 #226

you are replying to me, you do understand why I keep commenting back right ? NM_Birder Nov 2014 #229

... randys1 Nov 2014 #230

At one point I read that WI id requirement to vote exceeded WI id requirement to register to vote HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #98

I aslo mercuryblues Oct 2014 #66

In no state is a hunting license sufficient ID (where needed) for voting while college ID/other kelly1mm Nov 2014 #126

no I will not...a Concealed carry counts.. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #129

Actually it does not. You cannot hunt legally without a hunting license. A concealed kelly1mm Nov 2014 #139

i am talking about voting... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #147

Why invite a long series of posts on a side issue by incorrectly saying you can vote with a hunting kelly1mm Nov 2014 #156

I wrote an invitation? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #159

Nevermind. Have a nice rest of your day. nt kelly1mm Nov 2014 #160

Alaska says otherwise, looks like to me, i wonder where else randys1 Nov 2014 #171

In my state (commonwealth actually) College IDs are fine. Glassunion Nov 2014 #201

it's not id per se. it's restricting the particular forms of acceptable ids that's the problem unblock Oct 2014 #2

not an answer. If you have to prove who you are to engage services, why not to vote ? NM_Birder Oct 2014 #7

because it is a solution looking for a problem.. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #9

25 bucks gets you small game in Texas. problem is, NM_Birder Oct 2014 #12

do you have $200 to get a BC out of state? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #15

whats a BC ? NM_Birder Oct 2014 #20

birth certificate..sheesh VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #22

LOL. No i have mine. NM_Birder Oct 2014 #30

not everyone is as lucky as you... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #33

you grandmother ever have ID ? NM_Birder Oct 2014 #37

nope...no BC VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #39

Sheeeesh.... NM_Birder Oct 2014 #46

You are sort of an ass. Agschmid Oct 2014 #111

That poster has been a MIRT candidate for awhile. ieoeja Nov 2014 #169

just to know you care is enough for me. NM_Birder Nov 2014 #198

dont kid yourself. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #234

agreed VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #233

no she didnt....my grandfather her husband did... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #232

Proponents of Voter ID dont want minorities and students voting, period randys1 Oct 2014 #87

then why isnt college ID valid? You have to do the VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #21

Because it isn't proof of state residency. nt B2G Oct 2014 #23

yes it is.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #25

i believe there is a push to treat out-of-state college students as nonresidents. unblock Oct 2014 #41

When I was in college Calista241 Oct 2014 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author ctaylors6 Oct 2014 #31

thats not universal...my grandmother never had one at VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author ctaylors6 Oct 2014 #42

no....my grandmother never hd a BC and was VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author ctaylors6 Oct 2014 #92

Still not free and still unconstitutional and still ONLY about STOPPING minorities randys1 Oct 2014 #89

Why on earth do you think minorities and students are incapable of obtaining ID ? NM_Birder Nov 2014 #217

Everybody please dont read this thread, Rove operatives are here to distract you randys1 Nov 2014 #224

Here Ye Here Ye ! NM_Birder Nov 2014 #227

Ouch, I just realized I am cruising for a bruising, many on your side of the political aisle would randys1 Nov 2014 #228

of course it's an answer, if you would bother to read it. unblock Oct 2014 #16

walk up and vote = no ID required NM_Birder Oct 2014 #24

why do you care about those? Democrat? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #26

oh and I voted Yesterday....if my name wasnt on the rolls VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #29

sheeeesh, you're like a hummingbird, you're so fast NM_Birder Oct 2014 #43

and sheeesh you are like a Republican VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #60

name calling so soon ? NM_Birder Oct 2014 #68

are you pledging to vote for the winner of the Dem Primary VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #69

I pledge to vote for whomever is is the best qualified. NM_Birder Oct 2014 #101

exactly what I thought... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #103

I've never been a drone, never will be, voting is the supreme exercise in personal freedom. NM_Birder Oct 2014 #106

I'm not a drone...I'm a Democrat...just like both my grandparents who actually voted for FDR! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #108

Never said someone calling themselves Democrat was a bad thing. You have comprehension issues. NM_Birder Oct 2014 #113

Yes and so did my grandparents...they were loyal Democrats ALL their lives... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #116

You think Bernie Sanders is a Libertarian "too" ? NM_Birder Nov 2014 #130

did I say he was? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #132

did you read what you wrote ? NM_Birder Nov 2014 #135

I wasnt referring to Bernie.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #146

what you meant, and what you wrote are not the same. NM_Birder Nov 2014 #150

Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat right now, he's Independent.. NM_Birder Nov 2014 #219

yes i do support them. .but the difference is.. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #220

He's not a Democrat, yet you support him ? NM_Birder Nov 2014 #222

yes i support him...just like HE supports Democrats VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #231

I have NEVER shown ID to vote and I have voted many times, NEVER randys1 Oct 2014 #90

when mercuryblues Nov 2014 #118

my grandmother didnt have to....she didnt have a BC VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #38

31 cases per one billion votes...31 cases per one billion votes randys1 Oct 2014 #85

You have proven who you are when you register upaloopa Oct 2014 #91

Unconstitutional poll tax and anyone who supports Voter ID supports voter randys1 Nov 2014 #173

Possibly because the right to the vote COLGATE4 Oct 2014 #3

I think the rational view takes one step backwards in the process and asks LanternWaste Oct 2014 #6

Too many minorities and students all of a sudden are voting, that is the difference randys1 Oct 2014 #93

tennessee...-Tennessee handgun carry permit with your photo spanone Oct 2014 #11

You need ID to get every single one of your examples. NM_Birder Oct 2014 #18

these are accepted i.d.'s to vote in tennessee. spanone Oct 2014 #27

Too bad you don't need an ID to post on this board. notrightatall Oct 2014 #32

you don't ? NM_Birder Oct 2014 #61

right a voter registration that says Democrat... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #72

seriously, how can you have this much energy to follow every thing I say ? NM_Birder Oct 2014 #102

And that is a bad thing how? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #104

two words "a lot" NM_Birder Nov 2014 #187

two words.. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #189

I was busy having a life this week-end. NM_Birder Nov 2014 #190

because I have a job VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #193

? I'm very happy you have a job, I'm very proud of you..... ? NM_Birder Nov 2014 #197

I'm leaving again, just to keep you up to date. NM_Birder Nov 2014 #192

What if you don't engage government services? JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #36

Social Security cards are specifically not intended to be an ID card. SheilaT Oct 2014 #56

That's unfortunate JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #97

No surprise to see you supporting racist voter ID laws Bjorn Against Oct 2014 #40

racist how ? NM_Birder Oct 2014 #49

It is well known that minorities are far less likely to have IDs Bjorn Against Oct 2014 #50

It's well known ? explain WHY it's less likely ? NM_Birder Oct 2014 #52

No one said they are less responsible Bjorn Against Oct 2014 #59

We should get rid of the rule requiring ID to apply for government social services. n/t hughee99 Oct 2014 #47

+1 Cleita Oct 2014 #55

are they preregistered for them? do they have "rolls"? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #62

If you're in America and you need help, you get help. n/t hughee99 Oct 2014 #63

thats bullshit and you know it... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #64

I'm confused. I suggested that no ID SHOULD be required to receive services. hughee99 Oct 2014 #71

bullshit...you came to troll Democrats.. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #73

Yes, you caught me. I signed up in 2004 and made more than 12K posts hughee99 Oct 2014 #74

and that proves you are a Democrat? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #75

I suggested that people who need assistance shouldn't need an ID to get it. hughee99 Oct 2014 #78

then why are you trolling me? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #79

I'm trolling YOU??? hughee99 Oct 2014 #88

NO....I was talking to someone else and YOU chimed in! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #105

Someone created a thread and I replied hughee99 Oct 2014 #117

dude, you are snapping at a poster that agrees with you. NM_Birder Oct 2014 #100

I'm not a dude.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #107

I am the Borg, a grain of sand in the sunbathed beach of collective conscience. NM_Birder Oct 2014 #109

So are you calling my grandparents members of the Borg? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #112

I. am. not. referring. to. your. family. in. any. way. NM_Birder Oct 2014 #114

OH yes you are... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #119

you will vote for Democratic nominee regardless of who they are, NM_Birder Nov 2014 #122

forgot to explain the "borg" comment. NM_Birder Oct 2014 #115

i didnt say it was sexist did I? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #120

Slow down. you're not making sense now. NM_Birder Nov 2014 #121

YAFI. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2014 #136

uh wut? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #137

Exactly. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2014 #140

yeah....considering it was a false charge if playing the VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #142

Yeah. Nailed it. With an Ice cold beverage. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2014 #144

please prove it... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #145

Prove what? That you are drinking a cold beverage? NCTraveler Nov 2014 #151

sure you didnt... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #153

It is very easy for you to post the quote of mine you are asking me to prove. NCTraveler Nov 2014 #155

k VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #157

Quote please. NCTraveler Nov 2014 #161

All claws all the time righ ? NM_Birder Nov 2014 #152

NOW you are starting to sound sexist... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #154

If I said pointy teeth, would that make me "vampire-ist" NM_Birder Nov 2014 #199

are you a man? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #200

Don't look for everything to be so offensive. NM_Birder Nov 2014 #207

you fucking know damn well THAT was NOT what VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #213

why don't you leave my "undies" out of your imagination. that's offensive. NM_Birder Nov 2014 #214

oh puhleeze! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #218

interesting comparison. NM_Birder Nov 2014 #221

Nice to see you are back just in time to help us through in our time of need. bravenak Oct 2014 #51

that's what I'm here for. you're welcome. NM_Birder Oct 2014 #54

I'm sure you are. bravenak Oct 2014 #57

just that you care enough to follow me is enough, your amusement is just the cherry on top. NM_Birder Oct 2014 #99

Voting, they hate it randys1 Nov 2014 #175

Doing anything to try to stop it. bravenak Nov 2014 #178

What would PAUL say? GOTV GOTV GOTV....that is what randys1 Nov 2014 #180

*Standing ovation* Starry Messenger Oct 2014 #110

My mother never had a birth certificate, because she was born at home in 1916, SheilaT Oct 2014 #58

Well possibly because voter fraud is a fantasy dreamed up by the GOP as they SomethingFishy Oct 2014 #65

And while we're at it, what's wrong with poll taxes exactly? Capt. Obvious Oct 2014 #67

I hope for Halloween you are dressed as Capt. Facetious VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #76

Where did you live before you came here? upaloopa Oct 2014 #94

Apparently, nobody gets sarcasm anymore. ieoeja Nov 2014 #172

This guy Capt. Obvious Oct 2014 #70

31 cases per one billion votes...31 cases per one billion votes randys1 Oct 2014 #77

Nice - Well Said otohara Oct 2014 #84

False equivalency there upaloopa Oct 2014 #86

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #127

Legalize Lonnie Anderson's hair! H2O Man Nov 2014 #128

DONE ! it's already legal. NM_Birder Nov 2014 #134

Stop charging for basic ID cards, might be a better solution than abolish ID LadyHawkAZ Nov 2014 #141

That makes perfect sense.....so everybody else will hate it. NM_Birder Nov 2014 #148

You won this round, up to a million voters mostly minorities and students WONT be allowed to randys1 Nov 2014 #174

I won ? is that a fact ? or just your opinion ? NM_Birder Nov 2014 #181

Not sure if you will take the senate, but you won in that you and the SC 5 managed randys1 Nov 2014 #183

Are you still taking to me ? FACT: I'm a little surprised. NM_Birder Nov 2014 #186

As to your original question regarding voter ID and an ID for applying for social services. I am jwirr Nov 2014 #149

Three reasons to be against voter ID. ZombieHorde Nov 2014 #163

I had to show documentation in order to get my Voter Registration Card. Lars39 Nov 2014 #208

what documentation ? NM_Birder Nov 2014 #209

I had a driver's license and an electric bill or something. Lars39 Nov 2014 #210

You're still here? tenderfoot Nov 2014 #215

If I'm not, with whom are you speaking ? NM_Birder Nov 2014 #216