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paulk

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123. in 2003

Thu Dec 22, 2011, 12:16 PM

Dec 2011

you know - maybe he doesn't believe that anymore. It was either years ago.

I know that I spent a lot of time on this board, if not supporting, at least defending the DLC back then. I still believe they served a purpose at a particular time - however, I've come to believe they (and the newer versions, like the New Dems) no longer serve a worthwhile purpose. I feel that this particular brand of moderate Republicanism is damaging not just to the party, but to the nation as a whole.

The policies of groups like the New Dems may help win elections in certain areas, but the lack of advocating for liberal policies has contributed to a rightward drift for both the party and the country. This is bad because these policies aren't going to get us out of the mess we're in. We need liberal policies and we need liberal politicians to express them.

Listening to Al Franken recently I feel that he has arrived at that same conclusion.

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Al Franken said "I'm a DLC Democrat". [View all] LoZoccolo Dec 2011 OP

In what regard, Charlie? gateley Dec 2011 #1

He just volunteered that piece of information. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #5

For Christs sakes just give them the link here: FarLeftFist Dec 2011 #62

Here is the link: joshcryer Dec 2011 #57

Then he said �Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?� Edweird Dec 2011 #2

THEN WHO WAS PHONE? LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #4

I WAS PHONE Edweird Dec 2011 #6

Why does your phone look so surprised? tclambert Dec 2011 #82

Then we ate ice cream!!!!!! Autumn Dec 2011 #7

Aaaand.... NYC_SKP Dec 2011 #14

I am so stealing that. Awesome. Autumn Dec 2011 #17

Tell me please. I don't get it. I'm not so quick. The Wielding Truth Dec 2011 #135

It's an "Internet Meme". This one originated in a 4chan discussion board. Link: NYC_SKP Dec 2011 #137

This message was self-deleted by its author femrap Dec 2011 #151

Okay, then. It's not supposed to make sense and that's the point. Do I get it now? The Wielding Truth Dec 2011 #162

Slide the spinach on the soft moat. tblue Dec 2011 #147

applause. marasinghe Dec 2011 #8

... redqueen Dec 2011 #93

That's easy for you to say. UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2011 #150

87.23% Angry Dragon Dec 2011 #3

Link? nt NorthCarolina Dec 2011 #9

I can't remember it because it was like 2003 or 2004 when I saw it. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #10

Maybe he changed his mind, Autumn Dec 2011 #12

You're welcome. dawg Dec 2011 #16

Gwad I am so sorry Autumn Dec 2011 #18

I did a search for it and the only thing I found was NorthCarolina Dec 2011 #13

I was Minstrel Boy... Shining Jack Dec 2011 #81

Conference Call in 15 Minutes! SERIESLY!! madinmaryland Dec 2011 #11

"I'm not a DLC Democrat" unkachuck Dec 2011 #15

Why isn't there a link? The DLC was disbanded and replaced (see below). I hope Franken peacetalksforall Dec 2011 #19

He said it when I saw him on Book TV with Molly Ivins and Bill O'Reilly. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #20

So, you must have been "LincolnMcGrath" on the old DU. NorthCarolina Dec 2011 #22

I argued with him on "I'VE HAD IT WITH THESE MOTHERFUCKIN GREENS ON THESE MOTHERFUCKIN BALLOTS!". LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #24

20 posts in and you say this? and no link, and no context...no seriousness in any of your post CreekDog Dec 2011 #27

Everything you need to retrieve it with Google is in reply #25, along with where to cue it. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #28

No thank you. It's a lie until you post a link. CreekDog Dec 2011 #34

That sounds like "Schroedinger's cat" although I know almost nothing about that. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #35

You know even less about this than you know about Schroedinger's cat. EOTE Dec 2011 #86

It is why you are the Alert King and crying hurt feelings all the time Bluenorthwest Dec 2011 #89

In which reply have I personally attacked someone or advocated for third parties? LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #107

LINK alp227 Dec 2011 #128

As far as I can tell from searching NorthCarolina Dec 2011 #21

It's on "BEA 2003: Al Franken, Molly Ivins, & Bill O'Reilly Panel Discussion" around 1:24:17. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #25

if you have this link and you know the exact moment in it where that was said and you don't post it CreekDog Dec 2011 #29

It's hard to do links in the subject line. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #33

nevermind. CreekDog Dec 2011 #37

I do not smoke anymore. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #38

Would you reconsider? CreekDog Dec 2011 #122

puff puff pass stockholmer Dec 2011 #152

..... GirlinContempt Dec 2011 #73

here's the link. Capn Sunshine Dec 2011 #148

Look, the message you're responding to is the OP making fun of you CreekDog Dec 2011 #31

The jury has probably said to "leave it alone". LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #32

Your blue D in a circle makes me think Democrats in your firing range? Did you intend that? peacetalksforall Dec 2011 #46

It's an official Democratic Party logo. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #48

Name the organization that made this official or provide the source.. peacetalksforall Dec 2011 #96

Why don't you go to the official Democratic Party website? former9thward Dec 2011 #125

Why would I go there when I didn't know it existed there? peacetalksforall Dec 2011 #157

You were questioning the poster about his claim it was a official logo. former9thward Dec 2011 #158

It's at the Democratic web site at "http://democrats.org". LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #161

In message 32 there is no url. If you are suggesting I click on the icon peacetalksforall Dec 2011 #160

YEs Vanje Dec 2011 #129

Its difficult to find a link Vanje Dec 2011 #116

No link, nothing more than that? dreamnightwind Dec 2011 #23

that's what the OP has done, posted a quote with no link, no context, no nothing CreekDog Dec 2011 #36

Kind of like fundies like to do with the Bible. n/t deutsey Dec 2011 #84

dreamnightwind! What's up? byronius Dec 2011 #154

I met him back in the early 80s while he was soaking in the hot tub at the Lincolnwood Hyatt. City Lights Dec 2011 #26

I passed by there while riding around with my aunt and uncle. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #30

Is there some point to this? mmonk Dec 2011 #39

Hippie punching. nt Electric Monk Dec 2011 #40

Al Franken is a hippie-puncher amongst hippie-punchers. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #41

A lot of people say that the DLC is responsible for ruining the Democratic Party. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #42

I trend in that direction but find it a strange way of discussing it mmonk Dec 2011 #43

strange way of discussing it? manipulation perhaps? CreekDog Dec 2011 #44

There is actually a reason behind the one-liner posts. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #47

yes and i explained to everybody what that reason is CreekDog Dec 2011 #49

You did not explain the reason, but you demonstrated it. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #52

I am guessing that the poster you are responding to supported the DLC. rhett o rick Dec 2011 #141

I'm one of the 'lot.' tblue Dec 2011 #142

stream of consciencelessness CreekDog Dec 2011 #79

LOL mmonk Dec 2011 #83

Doubtful but if you have the link and don't put in the OP your just being an ass. grantcart Dec 2011 #45

+1 Electric Monk Dec 2011 #50

You'll find where to see it in reply #25. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #51

that's not a link CreekDog Dec 2011 #53

When someone says something on the radio, do you call them up and ask them for the link? LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #54

Cause clearly this is the same thing! GirlinContempt Dec 2011 #72

lol redqueen Dec 2011 #88

When someone says somethig on the radio, do they say one line then fall silent Bluenorthwest Dec 2011 #92

I've engaged with people in this thread. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #105

quite transparently too CreekDog Dec 2011 #117

Scoring one for Oasis is not an easy thing. n/t flvegan Dec 2011 #58

No that's an obscure reference for a possible grantcart Dec 2011 #56

I did a Google search when people were asking me to find it. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #61

Franken did say this (but that doesn't excuse the drawn-out tease by the OP) DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2011 #55

Fixed link at top of the thread (I used a URL shortener). joshcryer Dec 2011 #59

I think that at least three out of six people think it should stay. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #60

fascinating. What does that have to do with anything, by the way? DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2011 #64

So it looks like they excused the "drawn-out tease". LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #65

yes, if there was a vote, then they "excused" it....love your metric for success DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2011 #68

Lots of Falcon Air In The OP HangOnKids Dec 2011 #80

Looks like they said 'allow him enough rope' to me.... Bluenorthwest Dec 2011 #91

None of those jurors gave an explanation. The 3 who voted the other way explained clearly why. nt Electric Monk Dec 2011 #66

That sounds like self-evidence versus sophistry and excuses. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #67

Maybe to you, Tiger Blood Electric Monk Dec 2011 #69

This thread is on the front page. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #70

"Most Discussed" Hissyspit Dec 2011 #77

To the OP it does CreekDog Dec 2011 #78

Winning! Electric Monk Dec 2011 #136

yes, you must be quite happy that you've spent so little effort making so many angry CreekDog Dec 2011 #98

rofls GirlinContempt Dec 2011 #71

Here is a clip of Al Franken on 'What what being a progressive means to him' Bluenorthwest Dec 2011 #90

That brought tears to my eyes. I love Al Franken. What a human. byronius Dec 2011 #155

So am I. good for Al. center rising Dec 2011 #63

How do you feel about the OP (original poster) of this thread representing you? Electric Monk Dec 2011 #74

you're DLC? part of a group that no longer exists? CreekDog Dec 2011 #95

Al Franken: "All my life I have been a McGovern Democrat: Douglas Carpenter Dec 2011 #75

And let's note that he said that AFTER the "DLC Democrat" comment... JHB Dec 2011 #85

Clark Gable said "Franken, my dear, I don't give a damn" LadyHawkAZ Dec 2011 #76

Al Franken also said he was an "international Communist revolutionary" who once deutsey Dec 2011 #87

The point of this thread is: CreekDog Dec 2011 #94

That's really good CreekDog. Starry Messenger Dec 2011 #97

#5 makes sense in light of the behavior within the thread CreekDog Dec 2011 #99

My thread takes only seconds to understand. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #103

We know you're proud of it. CreekDog Dec 2011 #114

.....Like a disruption? Vanje Dec 2011 #118

I thought the purpose of the thread was to point out to those who use "DLC" as a pejorative Capn Sunshine Dec 2011 #145

I like Al Franken. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #102

Really? TZ Dec 2011 #104

I provide an example of someone who liked the DLC who people like. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #108

Nobody reading the thread will think so CreekDog Dec 2011 #106

Some people have accused me of being a DLC operative. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #109

I have no trouble believing you can be a member of a group that doesn't exist CreekDog Dec 2011 #112

I used to know some DLC'ers TZ Dec 2011 #115

LOL! TZ Dec 2011 #110

because they are a hated minority in our party and he wants to stir the pot fascisthunter Dec 2011 #131

+1 nt Poll_Blind Dec 2011 #153

Oh, bingo there. (Buzzer) byronius Dec 2011 #156

Obama said ""I do not support gay marriage" Bluenorthwest Dec 2011 #100

Isn't this rather OT? Capn Sunshine Dec 2011 #144

In 2003 MNBrewer Dec 2011 #101

DLC Democratic Leadership Council and DFL Democratic Farmer Labor Party peacetalksforall Dec 2011 #111

I cite the source of the quote in reply #25. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #113

John Kerry is one too. LynneSin Dec 2011 #119

So was I Capn Sunshine Dec 2011 #146

I miss the unrec feature. geardaddy Dec 2011 #120

i didn't CreekDog Dec 2011 #138

I miss it solely for this kind of shit. geardaddy Dec 2011 #140

And JFK said "Ich bin ein Berliner" (n/t) thesquanderer Dec 2011 #121

in 2003 paulk Dec 2011 #123

Maybe we should judge people by their actions instead. Fearless Dec 2011 #124

Why does this thread have so many recs ?? kentuck Dec 2011 #126

I like how you try to bring people into line with your expectations using questions. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #127

? Vanje Dec 2011 #134

Only nine recs.... proves a great point on DU fascisthunter Dec 2011 #133

yeah.... fascisthunter Dec 2011 #130

The MN party is called the Democratic Farmer-Labor party. I doubt Franken is DLC. craigmatic Dec 2011 #132

Check post #25 to find out how to see the direct quote. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #143

He is indeed. I remember when he convened a meeting in his NYC apt in 2004 to stop Howard Dean Capn Sunshine Dec 2011 #139

O to have been a fly on the wall. Robb Dec 2011 #159

Al Franken: The DLC must agree to pay me the beer and travel money I am due. n/t DefenseLawyer Dec 2011 #149