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208. OK stop ranting, and read and hear me

Reply to woo me with science (Reply #205)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 03:50 AM

Nov 2014

1. I do not defend Obama nor have I EVER defended suckup corporate Democrats. NEVER. Obama has made mistakes --many of them--but I don't necessarily see him as the biggest problem we have. You can make him the fall guy entirely but I see him as part of a whole contingent of middle way Dems including the Clintons. And I see other factors that enable these types of Dems. Did I ever say I like it? You mistake my tone for acceptance. FAR from it.

2. I agreed with your list of grievances against the administration--every one of them. I do not support the Obama track record as a whole--can I be ANY more clear? But then I didn't expect him to change anything much from the beginning. You need to understand I am coming from a very cynical place. I don't believe any elected official can stop what is happening in this country.

3. When did I bring in anything about racism? I accuse nobody.

4. You're looking for a target and it ain't me. Or you have me mixed up with somebody else.

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Post mortem thread. Why did we lose? [View all] lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 OP

because the country is right wing, and has been so for some time still_one Nov 2014 #1

I don't think that's the case and besides, I know that "right wing" isn't one thing. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #4

Wrong, and its way past time to end this deception. In poll after poll the American people sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #165

If we truly believe this...? kentuck Nov 2014 #168

We are not 'on the inside'. WE are not destroying the party. The Third Way/DLC has destroyed sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #176

I agree with you... kentuck Nov 2014 #180

+1 deutsey Nov 2014 #225

You win this thread my friend workinclasszero Nov 2014 #239

Your title indicates that you disagree with me lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #241

If you look closely at what happened in this election, when ISSUES were on the ballot sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #304

voters in *that place*, support *that issue*. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #309

I agree. It's hard to convince people to vote for you if you can't articulate what you stand for. Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #294

+1 Not only polls by pollsters, but at the ballot box yesterday. Yes, yesterday. merrily Nov 2014 #303

And we were trying to win seats in right-wing strongholds... n/t sweetloukillbot Nov 2014 #5

Wrong! Polling consistently shows that broad swaths of the electorate KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #65

I don't agree. CO, MI, WI are perfect examples, and those are NOT traditionally considered red still_one Nov 2014 #72

Sigh. I don't have links to the relevant polling data, but there are many KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #82

It definitely used to be that way, but a lot of things have changed. Here is a still_one Nov 2014 #91

Oh, puh-leeze. Most Americans couldn't define 'conservative' or 'liberal' to save KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #96

Actually you are proving my point unfortunately. Liberals are far better critical thinkers, and still_one Nov 2014 #106

You do understand that Americans can support a basket of progressive proposals but also KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #113

Sure, "whats the matter with Kansas". We definitely agree and hope Obama does his job and gets the still_one Nov 2014 #117

But I doubt that he will do that.. kentuck Nov 2014 #138

Your attitude, my friend, is exactly why Democrats lost. Really. Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #160

And that would be what? kentuck Nov 2014 #164

You don't need 100% Kentuck. But you rarely even ANY percent. I've witnessed your rhetoric. Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #189

I don't think I am jabbing my fist in the face of the President. kentuck Nov 2014 #194

I saw a few consistent subjects in Rep ads that I think we need to pay attention to... Red State Rebel Nov 2014 #232

Those are issues that won't go away with reframing. amandabeech Nov 2014 #305

This should go well. morningfog Nov 2014 #2

I'm curious about all theories... at least actionable ones. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #7

$$ and apathy. n/t Freethinker65 Nov 2014 #3

I agree LeftInTX Nov 2014 #19

Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #6

I didn't see any gun grab attempts. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #12

Rumors are enough lancer78 Nov 2014 #39

DiFi isn't running this year. Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #48

Washington state voted to close the gun show loophole Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2014 #87

I was surprised actually here marlakay Nov 2014 #190

There's the SAFE Act in NY and some of Colorado's new laws derby378 Nov 2014 #276

See, it's THAT type of Rush Limbaugh lie that persuades ignorant Americans to vote Republican. WinkyDink Nov 2014 #112

Failure to embrace progressivism Lee-Lee Nov 2014 #8

So you think marions ghost Nov 2014 #36

I think Lee-Lee Nov 2014 #54

You're absolutely right about articulating values. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #64

There seem to be a lot marions ghost Nov 2014 #70

"Societal Factors" CANDO Nov 2014 #115

You mean the lies? marions ghost Nov 2014 #118

Yeah pretty much lies CANDO Nov 2014 #166

So you tried and you know how hard it is marions ghost Nov 2014 #192

Well for the most part CANDO Nov 2014 #230

How would you suggest they counter marions ghost Nov 2014 #271

Why do you keep parsing my posts? CANDO Nov 2014 #316

And all I'm saying marions ghost Nov 2014 #317

I don't know... CANDO Nov 2014 #318

So you think Democrats lost because they were too extreme? Scootaloo Nov 2014 #136

No marions ghost Nov 2014 #139

Then you don't understand why people sit elections out Scootaloo Nov 2014 #147

I think they sit elections out for many reasons marions ghost Nov 2014 #154

Yes, the game is rigged. How do you beat a rigged game? Scootaloo Nov 2014 #159

Not sure marions ghost Nov 2014 #172

There are two ways Scootaloo Nov 2014 #191

So I get your marions ghost Nov 2014 #197

Feel free to sit on your couch then. Scootaloo Nov 2014 #200

Eh? marions ghost Nov 2014 #203

Well, running moderates and centrists is what we've been trying all this time Scootaloo Nov 2014 #207

Duh marions ghost Nov 2014 #209

The only enemy is apathy Scootaloo Nov 2014 #214

You have to be "inspiring" because people marions ghost Nov 2014 #219

It would GummyBearz Nov 2014 #222

Yes, Dems should not be ashamed of their legacy Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2014 #143

There IS no avenue for Liberals marions ghost Nov 2014 #148

Easily Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2014 #151

OK well bring it here marions ghost Nov 2014 #158

White guys hate the President BeyondGeography Nov 2014 #9

Udall was a white guy. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #20

How'd he do with white guys? BeyondGeography Nov 2014 #27

Obama is no more or less black today than he was when he won... twice. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #60

If you don't have an answer, I'd prefer you didn't answer n/t BeyondGeography Nov 2014 #75

I gave my answer. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #85

How did Udall do with non-college educated white males? BeyondGeography Nov 2014 #105

Yes. Like that one. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #109

White men are noticeably more right-wing in politics-at least, in terms of voting-than other groups YoungDemCA Nov 2014 #140

That's not an explanation, it's a problem statement. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #240

I am uncomfortable with explicit appeals to the votes of white men as a group YoungDemCA Nov 2014 #252

That is apparent. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #258

they are a demographic, like it or not. Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #299

Here's an issue: Men favor Marijuana legalization, statistically, more than women. Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #312

The sad reality is that the Senate leader will be an old white guy, just like it is now. BP2 Nov 2014 #21

There does seem to be a problem marions ghost Nov 2014 #46

Political parties don't correct voters, they appeal to them. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #61

If the voters are not hearing you they're not hearing marions ghost Nov 2014 #90

Guys aren't born with a GOP party ID. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #262

+1 Starry Messenger Nov 2014 #49

Yeah, nobody noticed he was black until after this: woo me with science Nov 2014 #73

If he'd only been a TRUE Progressive!!! BeyondGeography Nov 2014 #80

LOL. Way to ignore the point. woo me with science Nov 2014 #97

I knew a lot of Democrats after '08 deutsey Nov 2014 #228

Exactly. The same crowd that refuses to accept that far too many Americans consider Obama to be Number23 Nov 2014 #125

I expect the board will be flooded with such tripe tomorrow BeyondGeography Nov 2014 #128

'Tripe' is an exceptionally kind word for that sort of cluelessness. Number23 Nov 2014 #135

More importantly, polls show consistently that on actual ISSUES, woo me with science Nov 2014 #157

The fact is the majority of Americans consider Obama too liberal. Number23 Nov 2014 #188

Well, now you're simply repeating the same argument I already answered. woo me with science Nov 2014 #206

Your argument is not and has never been coherent. So there's that. Number23 Nov 2014 #283

Based on that logic, we're doomed because ... Deny and Shred Nov 2014 #280

As I said, right or wrong, this is a view that many Americans have of this president Number23 Nov 2014 #285

Whoosh. Obama didn't run yesterday. Deny and Shred Nov 2014 #288

Even the president acknowledged that HIS policies were the ones on the ballot Number23 Nov 2014 #290

Easy. I'm all about the conversation. Deny and Shred Nov 2014 #298

Your comments cut right to the core. nilesobek Nov 2014 #216

So how was it that this racism that accounts for low turnout woo me with science Nov 2014 #149

The fact that many of those campaign promises marions ghost Nov 2014 #155

There's that word, "miracle" again. It's a neat way to gloss over the actual record and woo me with science Nov 2014 #167

Nice rant marions ghost Nov 2014 #187

What a surreal response. woo me with science Nov 2014 #205

OK stop ranting, and read and hear me marions ghost Nov 2014 #208

It is nonsensical IMO also marions ghost Nov 2014 #145

That's exactly right. In my later post I posted links to polls that say that many Americans Number23 Nov 2014 #152

Right marions ghost Nov 2014 #161

We voted for him thinking he was going to be a liberal. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #242

I did not vote for Obama because I thought he was going to be a liberal Number23 Nov 2014 #286

You think America's stupid... sibelian Nov 2014 #202

One needs to be careful about painting large groups of people with the same brush. TampaAnimusVortex Nov 2014 #231

As I mentioned, a white woman would get the same treatment BeyondGeography Nov 2014 #233

Then you should rephrase the title of you previous post. TampaAnimusVortex Nov 2014 #237

If you only read the title, yes BeyondGeography Nov 2014 #238

We lost because of Netflix and video games. As long as young people BP2 Nov 2014 #10

And what would your solution to the Netflix and video game problem be? TacoD Nov 2014 #247

ah yes DonCoquixote Nov 2014 #11

The only woman I'd blame is the DNC chairwoman. She helped choose the policies. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #31

and to just said that we depend too much DonCoquixote Nov 2014 #41

I blame Pelosi for taking impeachment off the table back in 2006. Pelosi demonstrated thereby KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #104

Because we ran away from our issues. AleksS Nov 2014 #13

Dark money, Citizens United Wella Nov 2014 #14

Right marions ghost Nov 2014 #55

+1 deutsey Nov 2014 #229

1.) It's a 6-year midterm election Hissyspit Nov 2014 #15

It didn't make a difference for Bill in '98. BP2 Nov 2014 #28

You are correct. Hissyspit Nov 2014 #45

The economy was going gangbusters lancer78 Nov 2014 #50

The economy was unbelievable. amandabeech Nov 2014 #306

In Bill's case, 1998 was backlash against the impeachment circus Art_from_Ark Nov 2014 #77

Because the GOP massively overreached, trying to impeach him over a blowjob. Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #291

Yes, exactly cemaphonic Nov 2014 #184

We didnt have a real choice,our red/purple state candidates said we are really the same libtodeath Nov 2014 #16

Yes, you have to be DIFFERENT from the opposition Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2014 #132

Centrism AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #17

Agreed. Marr Nov 2014 #103

The media plants the idea of the opposition party TwilightGardener Nov 2014 #18

THIS RIGHT HERE! Problem is, Democrats are just as susceptible for the corporate media memes and Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #163

When the President is successfully blamed for Secret Service not protecting him or his family TwilightGardener Nov 2014 #175

Yep. You're right. Today's Washington Post's op-ed about "6 mistakes Obama made" that cost the Dems. Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #183

Because the lies have been told enough times now that the voters believe them Dont call me Shirley Nov 2014 #22

Sorry, but I am going to break rule #2. Brigid Nov 2014 #23

I don't know, but I hope it is because Vattel Nov 2014 #24

None of the above. maced666 Nov 2014 #25

Pretty simple. $1tr to fight ISIS passed with no debate LittleBlue Nov 2014 #26

Winner! Puzzledtraveller Nov 2014 #83

"26. Pretty simple. $1tr to fight ISIS passed with no debate" Inkfreak Nov 2014 #217

Mostly because we have a main stream media that uses social engineering to get what they want. Rex Nov 2014 #29

A large part of it marions ghost Nov 2014 #101

Maybe there wasn't enough of an agenda to interest the minority vote? Baitball Blogger Nov 2014 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Nov 2014 #32

The numbers were against us too long on the economy. Qutzupalotl Nov 2014 #33

add to it... H. Cromwell Nov 2014 #52

The Cheap Labor Republicans won't be any help there. Qutzupalotl Nov 2014 #119

harry truman said it decades ago: Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a msongs Nov 2014 #34

That's just what I was going to post. dflprincess Nov 2014 #35

Racism KittyKat13 Nov 2014 #37

No, us overusing this claim did not help us. Puzzledtraveller Nov 2014 #84

For the same reason we lost in 2010 LeftInTX Nov 2014 #38

Yep marions ghost Nov 2014 #114

It all goes back offering a contrast quakerboy Nov 2014 #40

You really want to know? Scootaloo Nov 2014 #42

Yes. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #62

Alright. Scootaloo Nov 2014 #123

Excellent post BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #179

+ a million. nt laundry_queen Nov 2014 #218

I agree about articulating principle and values. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #263

Hey, scoot. Hoe goes? R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2014 #102

Sawright Scootaloo Nov 2014 #127

Its the economy stupid jamzrockz Nov 2014 #43

If that's the case why did Romney not win? Nt maryellen99 Nov 2014 #94

Because putting Romney in charge of money is like putting Jack Sparrow in charge of the rum Scootaloo Nov 2014 #129

Let's hope so nt maryellen99 Nov 2014 #131

Stock market and unemployment TBF Nov 2014 #275

We need to run as LIBERALS. Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #44

Fuck it. I still have beer. We'll talk tomorrow. Throd Nov 2014 #47

Maybe a good plan. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #56

Red States, Ebola, ISIS , Black President, Whore Media, and Voters actually WANT that Creepy JI7 Nov 2014 #51

Failure to differentiate ourselves from fu**** republicans workinclasszero Nov 2014 #53

I think you're onto something. BKH70041 Nov 2014 #57

To some extent, we're overthinking this Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2014 #58

If Dems are going to be the "not Republican" party... Barack_America Nov 2014 #59

Fancy that --the Men's Rights crowd blaming women. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #63

I'd be interested in seeing the exit polling. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #67

The problem is that the disadvantaged don't vote. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #69

Well maybe today's winners will represent the disadvantaged. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #74

Most people hate the government and then they vote for geek tragedy Nov 2014 #107

True marions ghost Nov 2014 #110

Married WHITE women skew that result YoungDemCA Nov 2014 #144

Married women - in general - supported Romney lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #243

Reread what I said. Married white women skew that result YoungDemCA Nov 2014 #251

I'd be interested to see any polling that supports what you're saying. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #257

I'm going to add that the left does not have a voice in the media. Look at us - jillan Nov 2014 #66

They Own the Media AndyTiedye Nov 2014 #86

Thanks to Bill Clinton. I don't understand why DU won't listen to me. As must as liberals/Dems bash Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #193

It Has Been That Way Since Reagan Killed the Fairness Doctrine AndyTiedye Nov 2014 #210

Yes, Reagan dismantled the Fairness Doctrine, but deregulation under Clinton killed ANY Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #211

No coherent platform, and some felt kicked out of the tent. Just my opinion. KMOD Nov 2014 #68

Agree. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #71

.... YoungDemCA Nov 2014 #142

+1 Puzzledtraveller Nov 2014 #81

overusing same messages Puzzledtraveller Nov 2014 #76

The usual midterm cycle of losing Senate seats. Blaukraut Nov 2014 #78

Doesn't explain our poor performance in Blue State Governorships... brooklynite Nov 2014 #93

Lousy candidates and the reality that white people geek tragedy Nov 2014 #116

Being from Maryland and still in shock, I have several explanations for why Brown lost. Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #177

I'm in Maryland, and the Obamacare roll-out was really a problem for Brown. amandabeech Nov 2014 #308

Democrats squandered all their political capital in 2009-2010 by Zorra Nov 2014 #79

They also squandered a lot of political capital attempting to install post-Newtown gun reform Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2014 #98

You really should look forward instead of backward. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2014 #108

I've always found that learning from my mistakes helps me avoid repeating them. Zorra Nov 2014 #133

My theories Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2014 #88

re: #3. We should do more to appeal to those who vote. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #272

Republicans succeeded in getting the people to blame Obama for not getting things done AZ Progressive Nov 2014 #89

Refusal to 'natioanlize' the election to counter Republicans' anti-Obama KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #92

There is no question in my mind is it is because of Ebola, and if President Obama hadn't brought still_one Nov 2014 #95

FEAR JCMach1 Nov 2014 #99

1) Repuglikkkan gerrymandering; lastlib Nov 2014 #100

The R-W media drumbeat of ISIS and Ebola and Obama's "incompetence." Geraldo called these the WinkyDink Nov 2014 #111

yep to the drumbeat marions ghost Nov 2014 #122

Sorry for this but - female candidates in mid terms when voters are flamingdem Nov 2014 #120

If the voters are "old white male farts" lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #273

Too many people did not vote. Waiting For Everyman Nov 2014 #121

Vast disenfranchisement- 40,000 in Georgia alone Tsiyu Nov 2014 #124

lack of Democratic turnout was a factor steve2470 Nov 2014 #126

The Dems should have learned from the experience of Labour in Britain Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2014 #130

excellent post laundry_queen Nov 2014 #223

The Democrats did not turn out enough voters YoungDemCA Nov 2014 #134

We lost??? LadyHawkAZ Nov 2014 #137

Our club is more pure now. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #246

1) A debacle of a Democratic president brentspeak Nov 2014 #141

You blame women. Shocking. LeftyMom Nov 2014 #146

If you're not Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, I'm not blaming you. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #278

Another factor I would add: the urban-rural divide doesn't favor us in midterms YoungDemCA Nov 2014 #150

Each race had its own reasons frazzled Nov 2014 #153

I hope the explanation is that simple... kentuck Nov 2014 #174

King Charlemagne had a thread a day or two ago.... kentuck Nov 2014 #156

I think you're on an interesting track. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #264

Economic populism should be blueprint for Democrats.. kentuck Nov 2014 #267

Because AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #162

... . 840high Nov 2014 #315

The democrats don't do enough to improve average people's lives. liberal_at_heart Nov 2014 #169

And if they don't ...? kentuck Nov 2014 #171

oh, I have no doubt we are headed in the direction of having four major parties. liberal_at_heart Nov 2014 #173

Although the Tea Party is only a place where the Repubs dump their "crazies"... kentuck Nov 2014 #185

no argument here. I agree with you. liberal_at_heart Nov 2014 #186

A Parliamentary System Gloria Nov 2014 #277

So why would unmarried female voters vote differently than married female voters? alp227 Nov 2014 #170

This is trolling. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #178

Then offer specific information that it was. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #260

It's pretty obvious why we lost Azathoth Nov 2014 #181

WE ARE NOT AS ORGANIZED AT THE GRASSROOTS LEVEL AS THEY ARE. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2014 #182

My theory? BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #195

We can thank The Clintons to have mylye2222 Nov 2014 #196

You just had to inject your MRA crap in, didn't you? Odin2005 Nov 2014 #198

No crap. only facts. mylye2222 Nov 2014 #201

You seem to confuse "fact" and "editorial". Easy mistake to make... LanternWaste Nov 2014 #256

Or "crap" for "editorial" for that matter. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #287

It's so simple - because DEMOCRATS are no longer DEMOCRATS Glitterati Nov 2014 #199

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #204

In most places, this was a referendum on the President. Tatiana Nov 2014 #212

We didn't state our accomplishments and were nice little puppy dogs. The Reps had nothing.... kerry-is-my-prez Nov 2014 #213

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Nov 2014 #215

We lost because Democrats were afraid to stand on their accomplishments. Vinca Nov 2014 #220

Ask again week from now demwing Nov 2014 #221

People see Obama as a wimp / incompetent, and Democrats as the same. chrisa Nov 2014 #224

IMO because in the US blaming others dominates helping others. HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #226

Koch money Bettie Nov 2014 #227

Money cyberswede Nov 2014 #234

If that snip beyotch JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #235

They got more votes than we did. deaniac21 Nov 2014 #236

Jobs....jobs...jobs cap Nov 2014 #244

I'd call it economic populism, but yes. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #245

Because the country sucks right now and we hold the presidency. AngryAmish Nov 2014 #248

Because Americans are afraid and paranoid about everything. Avalux Nov 2014 #249

Like Duh, people didn't vote because of many reasons nolabels Nov 2014 #250

The states up for election in the Senate were red states treestar Nov 2014 #253

Campaigning too much on getting out the vote instead of issues sakabatou Nov 2014 #254

The people wanted change the Democrats offered them "more of the same". Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #255

Sometimes they just want change whether it is good or bad LeftInTX Nov 2014 #265

Or, they think anything will be better than the status-quo. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #266

Lost control of the messaging with the media. IdaBriggs Nov 2014 #259

Unfortunately, a lot of it has to do with Obama being black Niko Nov 2014 #261

Absolutely! kentuck Nov 2014 #268

so utterly sad, sickening...and true noiretextatique Nov 2014 #279

I suspect your post is intended as satire or snark, but in case it isn't Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #300

Obama's slumping approval rating Awsi Dooger Nov 2014 #269

Maybe pinning our hopes on people who don't vote is a poor strategy. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #270

The analysis I heard was that the Dems needed to win over 6% more votes Gloria Nov 2014 #274

Midterm funk. Happens all the time. DCBob Nov 2014 #281

Several reasons, combined: Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #282

Well said. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #284

The party needs to back-burner behavioral issues Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2014 #289

Bingo! kentuck Nov 2014 #295

On point BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #293

The party that is seen as intolerant, rigid, ideologically narrow and strident, generally loses. Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #292

stagnant wages/income /lack of upward mobility Douglas Carpenter Nov 2014 #296

The 6th year into an 8 year presidency ozone_man Nov 2014 #297

The MSM's relentless anti-Democratic pro-Republican propaganda and LibDemAlways Nov 2014 #301

re: "Fraud! Cheating! Vote suppression!": ucrdem Nov 2014 #302

The Pukes figured out customerserviceguy Nov 2014 #307

You forgot Joni Ernst Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2014 #311

Yes, they did have her customerserviceguy Nov 2014 #313

We lost because .... JoeFH Nov 2014 #310

It's the difference between the Tea Party and Occupy Hamlette Nov 2014 #314