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Erich Bloodaxe BSN

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3. Basically the last thing I heard from someone on DU I put on ignore recently
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:18 AM
Nov 2014

was (along with the continued insults and condescension that earned the ignore)

Yeah....but WE decide who WE run.....not Independents...
You can do whatever you want....but don't expect those that know this to be so accepting of your constant criticism of the party....kind of easy to throw stones while standing on a pile of hypocrisy.....

along with

Okay....so your an Independent...Right
then you just stepped OUT of the Party again. So you just get to vote for, who WE....the ACTUAL Democrats, decide we want to support with the Primary election..see...this is the point I keep trying to make with Independents...

and

I vote WITH my fellow Democrats...that is WHY we have a Primary election WE decide!!!!
I trust my fellow party members to make the best selection at the time.

and here's the heart of the matter

see that is the point...

what independents think of our candidates is not that important to us...its what WE think of the candidates that is...


And that's the arrogance that sums up the loss of the Senate. People who don't care what any other voter thinks of the people they choose to run other than the people they feel are 'Democratic enough'.

I am about as solidly a lefty voter as they come who doesn't simply vote the slate. I'm an "independent" who ends up voting Dem about 95% of the time - and did again last night. But when you don't care about what people like me think, and just run people who are what "Real Dems" want, you lose the Senate. And you lose badly.

It's time for 'Real Dems' to quit plugging their ears to the criticisms of "independents", and start putting up better candidates, who actually are willing to fight FOR something, not simply on the godawful 'We're not so bad' line.

Guess what? Most Americans don't give a crap about 'lesser evil'. They'll vote for people who stand up and tell you what they're FOR, even if that FOR isn't all that good for most of us, rather than people who say 'What the other guy wants to do is sucky for you'.

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Spot on Esse Quam Videri Nov 2014 #1
Exactly! IMO Messaging is the key root cause problem. Democratic messaging is deplorable. RKP5637 Nov 2014 #2
See post 17. TheCowsCameHome Nov 2014 #18
Yep! Exactly!!! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2014 #22
Republicans' only messages is hate "Liberal" Cary Nov 2014 #31
It is not in their DNA LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #35
yep. that was way way off PatrynXX Nov 2014 #56
Basically the last thing I heard from someone on DU I put on ignore recently Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #3
Change left to right, and all that is exactly what the Tea Party/Right wing says about the GOP. nt 7962 Nov 2014 #24
The tea party's problem is not that they don't correctly point out what I did here Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #25
My point is that they also view independents as inconsequential. And their opinions. 7962 Nov 2014 #64
And sadly many Americans see the Democrats as saying: A Simple Game Nov 2014 #30
They're not making excuses now. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #33
Yes they tried to be what the Republican voters wanted instead of what the A Simple Game Nov 2014 #65
Ah yes, Vanilla Rhapsody LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #37
Ignore is your friend. nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #66
Erich - You don't know how gratifying it is to read what you posted.. truth2power Nov 2014 #53
..and the march to Idiocracy continues mdbl Nov 2014 #4
You think 50+ percent of the electorate is crazy? oberliner Nov 2014 #5
Here is a slighty edited version. morningfog Nov 2014 #6
I like that better oberliner Nov 2014 #9
I disagree. It STARTS with messaging, but it doesn't end there. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #27
Then how else do you explain the way they vote against their own self interest? Vinca Nov 2014 #8
Deceptive messaging oberliner Nov 2014 #11
Well, there are different ways to look at it. 7962 Nov 2014 #26
Not psychiatric facilities,... freebrew Nov 2014 #40
More than 50% BubbaFett Nov 2014 #14
Not crazy. bvf Nov 2014 #32
It might not be helpful Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #48
I pretty much think that. m-lekktor Nov 2014 #59
Democrats lose because they stand for nothing. Octoberfurst Nov 2014 #7
The message has to be tailored to the target audience. Ilsa Nov 2014 #10
No, that's exactly why we lost LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #42
Correct brutus smith Nov 2014 #47
#42 - I agree with your statements. wholeheartedly. northoftheborder Nov 2014 #52
bingo! stop trying to get the votes noiretextatique Nov 2014 #58
Hell yes BrotherIvan Nov 2014 #60
i agree with you a trillion percent renate Nov 2014 #63
Those are the ads that Republicans ran, and they won with them. stillwaiting Nov 2014 #13
It's really not difficult. We lost because we were defending Senate seats won in a Presidential year Recursion Nov 2014 #15
Welcome to DU, I like the cut of your lederhosen. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #49
The Democratic Party stands for multinational corporate interests. nt stillwaiting Nov 2014 #12
Crazy, ignorant, hateful, bigoted liars.... TNNurse Nov 2014 #16
Herding cats. TheCowsCameHome Nov 2014 #17
Thoughts The Wizard Nov 2014 #19
this is a victory designed by SCOTUS noiretextatique Nov 2014 #20
Democrats are generally intelligent and speak in words of more than one syllable adigal Nov 2014 #21
Science, Dignity and Facts. Is there anything fucking else? Is that so fucking hard? Is it too much Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #23
Agreed. bvf Nov 2014 #34
Every election I vote in hopes they'll see our support and grow backbones...then disappointment. feeshbitZ Nov 2014 #36
We all stand for these things but will not stand with our President openly and passionately...bring Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #41
I have never understood why Obama replaced him in the first place mazzarro Nov 2014 #45
In this day and age of total loss of personal privacy, who knows what some deep digging dug up. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #46
But, he was such an 'unpopular president'... freebrew Nov 2014 #44
We stand for being sort of like republicans without the rousing dose of crazy. Ed Suspicious Nov 2014 #28
they stand for running away... lame54 Nov 2014 #29
and it doesn't help when you humbled_opinion Nov 2014 #38
Hosed. lonestarnot Nov 2014 #39
Yep, I did a lot of thinking and decided even before I read this madmom Nov 2014 #43
Choice brutus smith Nov 2014 #50
switched to green when clinton noiretextatique Nov 2014 #57
Pres. Obama made the greatest recovery sammy750 Nov 2014 #51
They certainly don't stand for the right of all citizens to vote and have our votes be counted... DesertDiamond Nov 2014 #54
We got hosed, creamed, smacked, whupped, repudiated, humiliated, defeated vlyons Nov 2014 #55
Triangulation, waffling and searching for nonexistent middle. JEB Nov 2014 #61
The dems stand for letting war criminals and banker crooks go free Corruption Inc Nov 2014 #62
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