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Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
97. As I said to my sister
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:44 AM
Nov 2014

If we lost to just the Old Republican guard, meaning folks like Gerald Ford, Bob Dole, even Nixon for Pete sakes I would agree with the "hey I know you're disappointed but let's not exaggerate crowd."

That's not who we are dealing with. People with similar beliefs to those type of Republicans aren't in office any more.

They are gone, victims of their own delusions that no one would be willing to take the train to crazy town with the likes of Bachmann, Palin, and Cruz, but guess what they were. These are people who don't believe even in the basic fundamentals of science, who view the superiority of the white race as unquestionable, who view education as the enemy.

If this country's elecorate were truly as smart as you give them credit for, it shouldn't matter how much people like the Koch's spend on selling the Republican brand. They don't fill out all those ballots, the rest of the people do.

We weren't cheated by voting machines, we were defeated by the ignorance of over half of the electorate, IMHO. Call that elitist, defeatist, whatever. I call it refusing to keep hoping that things will just magically be better if we just work harder and sell our message better. Over half the country voted for this, you can defend that and them as sane, intellectuals, whatever you so choose. The T Party also has the right to vote, think and call themselves smart, mock us etc. Totally agree that's your right and theirs to believe and say, just don't tell me that I don't have the right to believe and say what I want to as well.

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So what is being done, publicly and vocally, about voter suppression villager Nov 2014 #1
That's one of the questions we all need to ask loudly. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #4
My question is... busterbrown Nov 2014 #30
It's not just fraud, it's also vote suppression. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #31
Suppression and Fraud in my mind are the same.. busterbrown Nov 2014 #33
I say they're committing treason, but whatever we call it, we need to know about it. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #37
If DOJ cannot or will not, then it has to be done at the state level. MADem Nov 2014 #42
I don't think we need lawsuits yet. The documentation is public. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #51
Where are all the journalists? Most of them seem to be Special Interest Scribes, and MADem Nov 2014 #54
Yes, but I have a broad definition of journalist. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #68
Even in the non-traditional arenas, though, the "journalists" are few and far between. nt MADem Nov 2014 #72
My question is . . . Did Any Democratic Candidate who turned away from Obama . . . zelduh Nov 2014 #36
That's a question for races where we're confident of a legitimate result. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #38
... Kalidurga Nov 2014 #2
Mahalo True Blue Door! Cha Nov 2014 #3
Nice try to smooth things over, but go back and look at the results world wide wally Nov 2014 #5
While it's true that running from the President was idiotic True Blue Door Nov 2014 #7
Sometimes it feels like a baseball or football game your team should have won, but there's a bad Hoyt Nov 2014 #6
That's a good attitude to take leading up to the election True Blue Door Nov 2014 #9
Sorry, I don't believe we lost because of voter fraud/trickery in most cases. Hoyt Nov 2014 #11
Your belief one way or another in the absence of facts is totally irrelevant. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #12
Fine, you chalk it up to fraud/trikery and see where it gets us. Hoyt Nov 2014 #13
I can't chalk it to up to anything yet, because we don't have the facts. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #24
The OP essentially begs the question, anyway. Dreamer Tatum Nov 2014 #139
Excellent rant, True Blue Door. It needs to be said, and repeated.... Hekate Nov 2014 #8
Sorry. But a vast amount of Americans ARE stupid. Drunken Irishman Nov 2014 #10
Your opinion about the intelligence of other Americans is totally irrelevant. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #16
Obviously not - since you felt the need to make an entire thread on it. Drunken Irishman Nov 2014 #17
This thread is about focusing on the legitimacy of the election True Blue Door Nov 2014 #23
Not "stupid", brainwashed and misinformed.. whathehell Nov 2014 #34
Get off the pompous soapbox, and join the rest of us. n/t bobGandolf Nov 2014 #14
Who exactly is "us"? True Blue Door Nov 2014 #18
fuck that - you stop your bullshit... lame54 Nov 2014 #15
Pissed and disgusted about what? You don't even know what happened. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #20
And neither do you. Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #50
Which is why I'm asking questions trying to find out. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #53
Well, barking orders to people on DU Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #56
You're not Spartacus for posting irrelevancies. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #63
What the fuck doees that even mean? Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #118
It means your indignation is hilarious. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #121
No, I said I'll post whatever I please. Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #122
LOL. Thank you for volunteering to be Full Ignored. Your request is accepted. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #124
sure I do... lame54 Nov 2014 #100
That is what they did, but if Republicans thought that was sufficient True Blue Door Nov 2014 #105
That's an excuse... lame54 Nov 2014 #120
And if we're too afraid to find out the answers to the questions I ask True Blue Door Nov 2014 #123
-- G_j Nov 2014 #19
Thank you marions ghost Nov 2014 #21
We know the probability is very high of vote suppression. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #22
This cannot be accepted. Even if the Dems had won we need to fight for people's rights. kerry-is-my-prez Nov 2014 #25
Absolutely! G_j Nov 2014 #27
The voting fraud was bigger than ever I keep trying to point people Sundome Nov 2014 #26
And don't forget a complicit media pushing the meme that Republican victory was inevitable. Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #28
+10. n/t whathehell Nov 2014 #35
Even worse, IMHO, has been the constant media message of crisis and Obama being a failure Chathamization Nov 2014 #95
Good post malaise Nov 2014 #29
Excellent post. And if we don't push against voter suppression we lose in 2016. nt kelliekat44 Nov 2014 #32
There won't even be an election in 2016 if these tactics stand. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #40
Sorry, don't accept your narrative angrychair Nov 2014 #39
You can cite anecdotes where you don't think suppression happened. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #41
I like your vigor angrychair Nov 2014 #45
But they are anecdotes, by definition. It's data that doesn't add up to a whole picture. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #47
You invalidate your own argument angrychair Nov 2014 #58
I'm not interested in hearing excuses for not dealing with this. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #60
I'm sure you mean well angrychair Nov 2014 #71
No, we did not lose the Senate by 8 seats. We lost 7-8 seats total. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #75
Agree with first 3 JonLP24 Nov 2014 #43
Righteous questions. SELF-righteous framing. WinkyDink Nov 2014 #44
Pfui Savannahmann Nov 2014 #46
Yes, Georgia looks legit. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #59
You're looking for ammunition to justify the obstruction argument. Savannahmann Nov 2014 #61
No, I'm looking for FACTS about what happened. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #62
I'll post anything I choose. Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #48
+1000 Douglas Carpenter Nov 2014 #49
Yeah, way to tell me off - you'll post irrelevant bullshit if you darn well feel like it! True Blue Door Nov 2014 #64
eye of the beholder and all. it's incredibly arrogant to decry things you disagree with as "idiotic PeaceNikki Nov 2014 #67
The point was that we have more urgent matters on the agenda. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #69
Then don't start a thread telling members what or what not to post. GGJohn Nov 2014 #113
Point taken. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #114
I do like your passion though, GGJohn Nov 2014 #116
+2000. GGJohn Nov 2014 #112
Thank you. nt Zorra Nov 2014 #129
I don't particularly find any of your comments or questions helpful davidpdx Nov 2014 #52
"you can't know the significance of events whose details you don't even know" Martin Eden Nov 2014 #55
What "assertions" are you referring to? True Blue Door Nov 2014 #65
1 and 3 are basically true; not wanting to hear them is foolish. Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2014 #57
Speaking of "ostrich-style." Irony truly is dead. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #66
Really. LiberalElite Nov 2014 #70
WE are the Democrats. WE are the Democratic Party. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #73
Uh, I am. Just not giving the answers you want. nt LiberalElite Nov 2014 #74
I was agreeing with you. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #77
American culture is deeply conservative and American voters are manifestly idiots. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #76
It's true. anyone who denies it is living in a blue little bubble. PeaceNikki Nov 2014 #78
No, you live in a red little bubble and surrender to your environment. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #81
surrender? bullshit, you don't know me. PeaceNikki Nov 2014 #82
I know three things about you. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #87
No, you don't. You're seriously delusional. PeaceNikki Nov 2014 #94
So you DIDN'T just say what everyone can scroll up a few inches and see you said? True Blue Door Nov 2014 #101
You are exactly right Nikki. RiffRandell Nov 2014 #86
Stockholm Syndrome is evidently a very common problem in our Party. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #91
You need to take your own advice. nt RiffRandell Nov 2014 #92
I know, I know. I get distracted when people post off-topic comments. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #93
No, thems the narcissistic fantasies of cafe fauxgressives. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #79
This Country is Deeply Liberal?? RobinA Nov 2014 #98
How about compared to the vast majority of countries on Earth? True Blue Door Nov 2014 #104
We are "liberal" compared to Saudi Arabia. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #126
Bullshit. They just export their military defense to us. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #136
Um - uh dude, this is not 1980 anymore. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #137
Seen the breakdown of GDP contributions to NATO lately? True Blue Door Nov 2014 #140
horseshit. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #125
Gotta agree. Georgia elected a right wing hack who thinks job outsourcing is cool. Hoyt Nov 2014 #134
Please stop posting most of your 9 points - geez maced666 Nov 2014 #80
You're asking where my proof is for asking a set of questions? True Blue Door Nov 2014 #84
American culture is conservative. And LWolf Nov 2014 #83
Occam's Razor. The election wasn't stolen; the voters just didn't buy what we were selling badtoworse Nov 2014 #85
Occam's Razor depends on knowing the facts. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #89
what you said. Puzzledtraveller Nov 2014 #135
People will rant, it was a bad night demwing Nov 2014 #88
I didn't call people idiotic - I called certain statements idiotic. Because they are. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #90
Not Buying It RobinA Nov 2014 #96
So because idiots exist, we should ignore treasonous electoral sabotage? True Blue Door Nov 2014 #106
As I said to my sister Liberalynn Nov 2014 #97
Agree With Most RobinA Nov 2014 #99
That's true about tho old Republican guard being "democrats" now Liberalynn Nov 2014 #111
That's a completely moribund viewpoint. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #107
Sorry but that's where I am at this point. Liberalynn Nov 2014 #115
Then why are you here? True Blue Door Nov 2014 #119
You Know What You're Right. Liberalynn Nov 2014 #133
Don't let this person bully you out of here. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #138
I feel sorry for you guys, I really do Niko Nov 2014 #102
thanks and welcome to DU NRaleighLiberal Nov 2014 #103
Yup. DanTex Nov 2014 #108
Right, that's why Canada is pushing Keystone XL and the US isn't buying. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #109
yeah that sums it up pretty well. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #127
It is truly good that they don't deaniac21 Nov 2014 #110
Good Points erpowers Nov 2014 #117
If you find out any of this information, please let the rest of us know. Rex Nov 2014 #128
Stop fantasizing Man from Pickens Nov 2014 #130
Poll after poll after poll shows that Americans have progressive ideals. Dont call me Shirley Nov 2014 #131
How do you explain Maryland onenote Nov 2014 #132
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