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madmom

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110. What I make of it is the ptb is afraid to make a few waves. Do you think

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:14 PM

Nov 2014

people would vote against

.."90% tax brackets? About universal, publicly-supported, free healthcare and childcare and college? About reining in corporate political spending? About eliminating tax breaks and tax loopholes for corporations and the upper class? About reforming our war-first foreign policy? About actually closing the School of the Americas and Guantanamo Bay? About repealing the USA PATRIOT Act? About withdrawing from the WTO? About creating a job for every worker who wants one? About making a real investment in our infrastructure for the future--meaning 100s of billions? About fixing our broken bankruptcy, patent, copyright, and anti-trust laws that all favor huge corporations over average people? "

if they thought it had a chance of happening? As long as the current "leaders" are afraid to even talk about any of this stuff the "radical left" will never be a part of the program.

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Why Democrats lost [View all] ProSense Nov 2014 OP

I agree with half of that. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #1

I agree. They ran the wrong way. Yesterday was a big victory for the Conservatives. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #73

A big, long chunk of the road to feudalism got paved last night. hifiguy Nov 2014 #135

Speaking of feudalism have you seen this: rhett o rick Nov 2014 #138

Thank you for that link, sir! hifiguy Nov 2014 #139

Obama has also run away from (populist) Democratic values... radhika Nov 2014 #83

No! He was given a house and senate full of Blue Dog Democrats and Republicans Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #106

The Blue Dogs didnt force him to support the Trans Pacific Partnership. They didn't force him rhett o rick Nov 2014 #140

Exactly! And as I said a number of times earlier, their strategies made the democratic party look RKP5637 Nov 2014 #2

They failed to connect the dots that many white Americans voted for Obama twice LeftInTX Nov 2014 #131

It really po'ed me. I voted for Obama, twice. NO president is perfect and NO president has RKP5637 Nov 2014 #133

That was probably part of it. ucrdem Nov 2014 #3

Dems need to quit paying attention to the polls pipoman Nov 2014 #8

Turnout was good. Lots of this ucrdem Nov 2014 #13

The t-baggers came out to vote. Democrats stayed home. n/t n2doc Nov 2014 #27

GOP kept T-bag candidates out of the races ucrdem Nov 2014 #31

Like Ernst and Gardner and Tillis? n2doc Nov 2014 #34

Exit polling: ucrdem Nov 2014 #41

I personally don't believe exit polls anymore. n2doc Nov 2014 #44

Yes, Ted Cruz has lots of new allies now. emulatorloo Nov 2014 #55

And the problem with Brokaw's analysis is that the Republicans DO NOT have to govern. Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #112

Tea partiers and Republican Establishment critics adopted a ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #119

Turnout was down for Democrats in Texas Gothmog Nov 2014 #141

Voter obstruction and voter turnout aren't the same thing. ucrdem Nov 2014 #149

In WI Mary Burke DID NOT run away from Obama or the Clintons. HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #4

Two things ProSense Nov 2014 #9

One thing that can't be overlooked in politics it's always blame the other guys HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #19

Carville nil desperandum Nov 2014 #85

The radical left is self destructive Cary Nov 2014 #5

"I belong to no organized political party, I'm a Democrat." Still true after all these years. bklyncowgirl Nov 2014 #7

You have to understand that "conservatives" are fascists Cary Nov 2014 #14

And they generally like to follow orders. bklyncowgirl Nov 2014 #20

What radical left? OrwellwasRight Nov 2014 #64

this ^ ... madmom Nov 2014 #68

Yeppers... Cary Nov 2014 #88

Which part of my comment didn't you understand? Cary Nov 2014 #87

How can people 'disrespect the radical left' when there isn't one? leftstreet Nov 2014 #96

Radical leftists play into the "conservative" strategy of spreading discord and discontent Cary Nov 2014 #102

Let's have a witch hunt Tsiyu Nov 2014 #114

Did I suggest any such thing? Cary Nov 2014 #122

Back at you: "Stop attacking people like me and start working with us. Your future depends on it." deurbano Nov 2014 #130

Thank you Tsiyu Nov 2014 #142

I don't understnad OR agree with the statement that we are "self-destructive." OrwellwasRight Nov 2014 #121

The far left bears little relationship to the far right Cary Nov 2014 #123

Can you PLEASE describe a "far left policy" for me? PassingFair Nov 2014 #127

Simply join with the mainstream? OrwellwasRight Nov 2014 #134

Ya let's keep hippie punching! Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #129

+1 leftstreet Nov 2014 #89

The "radical left" has no political representation. m-lekktor Nov 2014 #74

Agreed Cary Nov 2014 #90

What I make of it is the ptb is afraid to make a few waves. Do you think madmom Nov 2014 #110

+1000! adirondacker Nov 2014 #116

I'm A Leftie... Got ALL The Lefties I Know Here I FL ChiciB1 Nov 2014 #93

Actually, the term the DLC coined was "The Loony Left".... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #94

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Welcome back ProSense. n/t FSogol Nov 2014 #6

Welcome back. joshcryer Nov 2014 #10

I pretty much agree. Puglover Nov 2014 #11

I read right here on DU that is was because of single female voters. boston bean Nov 2014 #12

Come on Cary Nov 2014 #15

Well, I feel like you, but others here apparently do not. boston bean Nov 2014 #17

So far on DU I've been told it was single women, LGBT people, liberals and the youth voters Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #37

I saw that post JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #62

I read Netflix and video games are to blame. (nt) TacoD Nov 2014 #117

"Enjoy the next four years"? I cleared my Ignore list for this day demwing Nov 2014 #16

LOL corkhead Nov 2014 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author Cha Nov 2014 #21

Actually, ever letting the OP off of that list was a big deal demwing Nov 2014 #22

Sorry.. I should have just kept out of it. It just made me mad.. but, then you were obviously Cha Nov 2014 #26

Cha, much respect. Sorry for aggravating you on this day. /nt demwing Nov 2014 #124

Backatcha, demwing.. Cha Nov 2014 #125

Well, any DU'er posting an immature comment about their ignore list is pathetic. KittyWampus Nov 2014 #70

I love you too demwing Nov 2014 #109

cool story! snooper2 Nov 2014 #36

Yep, that is what I said and got yelled at for saying it! Rex Nov 2014 #23

The next four years will be excruciating for Dems in states that elected gop governors, PS.. Cha Nov 2014 #24

Quinn in IL and Burke in WI absolutely embraced the President! And look what happened! Tatiana Nov 2014 #25

"It doesn't help us to insist the President is vastly popular. He was, but now he isn't. " ProSense Nov 2014 #28

Midterms are often a referendum on the Presidency, so I think Presidential popularity matters. Tatiana Nov 2014 #32

"unity and standing for something" brer cat Nov 2014 #99

Oh yes.. blame Obama.. he doesn't do enough for this country. My sister is a teacher and she Cha Nov 2014 #33

Your sister is a public education teacher and supports this President's education policies? Tatiana Nov 2014 #43

"we didn't really give them a good reason to vote for us." < Deserves repeating. n/t jtuck004 Nov 2014 #49

Obama did a radio ad for Crist. NCTraveler Nov 2014 #29

Crist is not a good example ProSense Nov 2014 #30

I've missed your voice, ProSense. freshwest Nov 2014 #39

BTW NCTraveler Nov 2014 #51

It worked for these Govs.. Cha Nov 2014 #35

That is kind of my point. NCTraveler Nov 2014 #48

Well then you missed the point of the OP Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #128

and he would had lost by and even bigger margin if he hadn't! B Calm Nov 2014 #58

Could be. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2014 #60

Nice to see you again. Xyzse Nov 2014 #38

Good to see you back.... beerandjesus Nov 2014 #40

For all those who thought when your wishy-washy candidate was running away B Calm Nov 2014 #42

Running away from the ACA instead of dispelling GOP lies was a loser. SunSeeker Nov 2014 #45

Exactly, SunSeeker.. unfathomable! Cha Nov 2014 #47

Grimes turned her back on 679,370 democratic voters in Kentucky B Calm Nov 2014 #50

You know, that really is not an excuse I can buy. LGBT voters have had every single Democratic Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #71

dems/liberals/left lost because they still ignore the right's best weapon certainot Nov 2014 #46

Here in Oregon Democrats won. Obama has not shown up here to do a public event since 2008 Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #52

Been awhile since I've seen one of your posts. malthaussen Nov 2014 #53

Good to see you back panader0 Nov 2014 #54

Non Voters SHRED Nov 2014 #56

Up late and running late for work. sheshe2 Nov 2014 #57

"Welcome back"??? Dawgs Nov 2014 #59

Hey, how you been? MADem Nov 2014 #61

I wore my "I voted" all day here in California Iliyah Nov 2014 #72

The third way returns to blame the left - TBF Nov 2014 #63

+1 n/t MissDeeds Nov 2014 #84

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The root reason is voter suppression. But a loud and clear message of an agenda for the people DesertDiamond Nov 2014 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author Todays_Illusion Nov 2014 #66

Anthony Brown is on your list-he didnt run from Obama maced666 Nov 2014 #67

Ah, propaganda returns to lecture the rest of us n/t brentspeak Nov 2014 #69

uh, Shumlin sure as shit didn't run from the President. At all. You have no clue what you're cali Nov 2014 #75

Hi, how are you? ProSense Nov 2014 #80

Study: Citizens United elected more Republicans Hissyspit Nov 2014 #76

Welcome back, Pro...nt SidDithers Nov 2014 #77

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Grimes looked especially foolish to me. dawg Nov 2014 #79

Welcome back! hrmjustin Nov 2014 #81

You mean it wasn't income disparity, NSA spying on our children, bank fraud and general whereisjustice Nov 2014 #82

Great to see you back - and I agree karynnj Nov 2014 #86

Check out how many of these "Democrats" ran like they were "as good as" Republicans. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #91

WHY WE LOST blues lover Nov 2014 #92

1st, welcome back... ReRe Nov 2014 #95

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"Illinois -- Few more reliably Democratic states than Illinois"? In what universe? ieoeja Nov 2014 #98

And still, even after this historic loss, we have Democrats here on DU blaming Obama Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #100

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I agree.. Peacetrain Nov 2014 #101

The American dream is dead and it was an act of suicide. Kelselsius Nov 2014 #103

ProSense! NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #104

Circular Firing Squad kairos12 Nov 2014 #105

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Glad to see you back. MineralMan Nov 2014 #111

While I Didn't See The Magnitude Of The Loss DallasNE Nov 2014 #113

IMHO SmittynMo Nov 2014 #115

Turnout in Texas was at least 200,000 less than 2010 LeftInTX Nov 2014 #137

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Nice that nobody thinks racism was a cause mikehiggins Nov 2014 #120

ProSense is back? Good to see you again. Hekate Nov 2014 #126

Yep. Tom Wolf had President Obama here last Sunday, blue neen Nov 2014 #132

Sister...welcome the fuck back. nt msanthrope Nov 2014 #136

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They were distracted and put on the defensive... kentuck Nov 2014 #144

WV Doesn't count? Ricochet21 Nov 2014 #145

But I keep reading here it's because the president is a failure, a crypto-fascist Republican Number23 Nov 2014 #146