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28. A rash of Democratic retirements did not help either

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Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:41 PM

Nov 2014

Many likely would have held on IMHO

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Let me be clear: It is delusional to claim dems lost because they didn't stand with the President [View all] cali Nov 2014 OP

As you note in the last lines, his deep unpopularity was not helpful. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #1

I never get the excuses and denial that invariably pop up after we lose cali Nov 2014 #2

It's simply being human. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #5

It isn't usually "excuses" FBaggins Nov 2014 #18

I don't either. Tatiana Nov 2014 #50

Yes, it was a pummeling by proxy. Can't do anything about the guy in the WH, so TwilightGardener Nov 2014 #36

i'll kick & rec that! spanone Nov 2014 #3

having the choice of repub or repub-lite is not a good motivator for turnout corkhead Nov 2014 #4

Seriously? Not this old saw again. In some states all they want is republican cali Nov 2014 #6

ask the disinterested voter why they are disinterested and they will tell you why they stayed home corkhead Nov 2014 #13

If that's true, then we shouldn't even bother running candidates in those states. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #38

But liberal candidates in many regions can't make it past the primaries. Kaleva Nov 2014 #45

Which is why we need open primaries. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #47

Yet the liberal policies win. Which is what confuses me. AleksS Nov 2014 #53

Yes! it is not just one issue but a number of them. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #7

right. many more than I listed, and some are very, very local cali Nov 2014 #14

Our losing Dem gov candidate Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #49

You hit the nail on the head with the economy. amandabeech Nov 2014 #8

But the Bankers have done extremely well since then. Bandit Nov 2014 #61

I can't figure it out, either. n/t amandabeech Nov 2014 #73

Me either...and I sure am shaking my head over Tuesday. nt mariawr Nov 2014 #79

Truly, would this be happening if Pres Obama were not Black? cilla4progress Nov 2014 #9

As I said, racism is a part. It's a significant piece in some places, but it's not the only cali Nov 2014 #15

LOL how did he get elected?! maced666 Nov 2014 #39

absolutely - many ran from bush, even Gore would not enlist Clinton support DrDan Nov 2014 #48

Do you remember the Clinton years? Bandit Nov 2014 #62

In 2006, votes ran away from Bush who was caucasion yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #82

The horrid attacks ads seemed to have worked in Arkansas. moriah Nov 2014 #10

My mom said the same thing Art_from_Ark Nov 2014 #83

"Let me be clear: It is delusional to claim dems lost because they didn't stand with the President" ProSense Nov 2014 #11

one more time: that is not the only reason. It's a factor; a significant one, but still one of cali Nov 2014 #16

"He did win two Presidential elections." ProSense Nov 2014 #22

true, but he did win Iowa. He certainly won MA and MD. cali Nov 2014 #24

Coakley was the Dem candidate for MA gov... wysi Nov 2014 #72

The Repubs elected 2 black legislators to Washington this year. Calista241 Nov 2014 #88

Sure, and that probably animated a bunch of voters... malthaussen Nov 2014 #17

I blame Ebola. malthaussen Nov 2014 #12

presidents get blamed for the bad stuff, get no credit for the good stuff. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #19

yes. every word is spot on. cali Nov 2014 #20

You are so right, and to pretend that dems lost because they didn't stand with the President Autumn Nov 2014 #21

thanks, Autumn. It's just pointing out the obvious. cali Nov 2014 #23

being clear does not equate to being right... lame54 Nov 2014 #25

baloney. the facts support my op. You have no facts to support you- or at least cali Nov 2014 #30

do you need facts... lame54 Nov 2014 #54

"Don't vote for Democrats ... except me!" is not a winning strategy. ieoeja Nov 2014 #26

Nunn/Carter in Georgia would have benefited if they stood with Obama, and.. Dawgs Nov 2014 #27

Nunn and Carter lost by over 8 points. Calista241 Nov 2014 #75

I didn't say she would have won. I said she would have benifitted. Dawgs Nov 2014 #77

A rash of Democratic retirements did not help either Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2014 #28

absolutely. cali Nov 2014 #31

agree. hell harkin couldn't stick it out for another 6 years. okieinpain Nov 2014 #32

They retired on a bad year Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2014 #57

it looks that way. hopefully president obama will do a good job okieinpain Nov 2014 #58

I'm going to disagree with you a little bit on president obama okieinpain Nov 2014 #29

doing that one on one is entirely a different thing. You don't have the MSM to contend with cali Nov 2014 #33

they did but not like the dems did with obama. n/t. okieinpain Nov 2014 #44

Standing with the President must include Darb Nov 2014 #34

This is it exactly. MoonchildCA Nov 2014 #52

It's hard to teach marions ghost Nov 2014 #66

Certainly true but when so many candidates run against the party's leader, even though it may make pampango Nov 2014 #35

I disagree. dawg Nov 2014 #37

I'm sure he is deeply unpopular in red states treestar Nov 2014 #40

No, the dems lost because they didn't stand with the President jeff47 Nov 2014 #41

You left Obama himself off the list - he needs to own some of it. maced666 Nov 2014 #42

It IS also a factor. When candidates won't even... JaneyVee Nov 2014 #43

An economy that does NOT benefit the vast majority of people bigwillq Nov 2014 #46

It's not necessarily standing with the Pres - it's running on the success. Drunken Irishman Nov 2014 #51

Bingo Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2014 #64

I blame Snowden and Greenwald. Puzzledtraveller Nov 2014 #55

Plus quaking and stammering when adked about the leader of the party. Orsino Nov 2014 #56

All of the above and they ran away from the President. applegrove Nov 2014 #59

David Domina opposes Keystone, sent bankers to jail, and lost (nt) Recursion Nov 2014 #60

If issues don't matter neither does the candidate.... nt think Nov 2014 #80

Agree, but also no unifed, consistent message, and it's always easier to campaign against joeybee12 Nov 2014 #63

Slightly disagree. Absent any other compelling rationale and narrative for election TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #65

You could not be more wrong Niko Nov 2014 #67

Um...NO...that is just one more factor, you seem to be the delusional one here. Rex Nov 2014 #68

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #69

Fuck you and your stupid post n/t arcane1 Nov 2014 #70

Don't enjoy your stay. Rex Nov 2014 #71

You forgot Chickenshit. GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #74

Two-way street. Combine the Conciliator-in-Chief with a party of spineless cowards BlueStreak Nov 2014 #76

voter turnout and apathy. Women and young for the most part didn't show up. It bothers me that GOTV still_one Nov 2014 #78

While all those factors are very real think Nov 2014 #81

Totally and respectively disagree. nilesobek Nov 2014 #84

Forgive the analogy. Savannahmann Nov 2014 #85

It sounds like you're feeling guilty. Renew Deal Nov 2014 #86

+1 rock Nov 2014 #87