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6. We get clobbered in the midterms and you think Iraq has nothing to do with it????

Reply to riqster (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:03 PM

Nov 2014

25 years of losing in Iraq takes it toll.

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Voter turnout among lowest on record for midterm election [View all] grahamhgreen Nov 2014 OP

Obama voters fail to support the President again. nt onehandle Nov 2014 #1

How's that Iraq war, extended version, working out for us? grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #3

Horse shit. Obama is doing no such thing. riqster Nov 2014 #5

We get clobbered in the midterms and you think Iraq has nothing to do with it???? grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #6

I have seen no data suggesting this was a significant factor. riqster Nov 2014 #7

Then you missed the poll where voters were asked what were their most important issues. sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #8

^^this^^ Puzzledtraveller Nov 2014 #16

x2 truebrit71 Nov 2014 #51

I'd be interesting in seeing the poll that ties this all together Sheepshank Nov 2014 #46

Looks like gun control ballot measure was a win:) grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #54

polls touted here was that a majority of Americans favored gun control measures Sheepshank Nov 2014 #61

LOL. The entire 2008 election was a referendum on Iraq. Perpetual war is killing us. grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #62

OR, voters were discouraged from voting by those telling them over and over again sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #63

or the apathy and therefore the lack of turn out, was a result of "they're all the same" rhetoric Sheepshank Nov 2014 #65

I took the trouble to look at the available stats so far. Clearly you did not. Again, congratulation sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #66

yeah? Well congrats on keeping the info all to yourself Sheepshank Nov 2014 #69

bullshit speculation with no supporting data Sheepshank Nov 2014 #45

Yep. Repubs turned out,Dems did not. riqster Nov 2014 #4

GOTV messages were ignored. That's why we lost. riqster Nov 2014 #2

Well, that sounds simple enough. So why do you think voters were so unenthusiastic?? sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #9

They don't trust the party anymore imo. polichick Nov 2014 #10

Exactly, thank you! sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author riqster Nov 2014 #13

This is the correct answer. woo me with science Nov 2014 #22

Pretty much nails it. Atman Nov 2014 #29

how does this jive with the last midterms where Dems got a Shellacking? n/t Sheepshank Nov 2014 #48

Young voters felt they got burned after working so hard for Obama... polichick Nov 2014 #55

so the 1st time was stupidity and the 2nd time by design? Sheepshank Nov 2014 #56

The kids I've spoken with say the system is rigged... polichick Nov 2014 #59

oh so your anectodal tales are broad spectrum facts? Great lol Sheepshank Nov 2014 #60

We lost because of centrism AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #31

Disagree completely. riqster Nov 2014 #33

We controlled both houses 40 years from 1954 - 1994 AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #35

And that is true. But it is NOT proven to be the #1 reason we lost. riqster Nov 2014 #41

So it's the #2 reason we lost? AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #43

It's not quantified, so it has no ranking. riqster Nov 2014 #47

It has ranking AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #49

Inference is not evidence. riqster Nov 2014 #52

he's been attempting to sing this same tune all day Sheepshank Nov 2014 #50

Minnesota has 55-60 Puglover Nov 2014 #12

Good a reason as any. riqster Nov 2014 #14

They were smart enough to ignore the calls to stay home. FSogol Nov 2014 #32

Mcgovern was my first vote my freshman year in college. :) Puglover Nov 2014 #37

You rock then. My first vote was for Jimmy Carter. n/t FSogol Nov 2014 #38

LOL I'm just older. Puglover Nov 2014 #39

My first vote was Carter too AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #44

The flood of negative advertisement has just this effect AZ Progressive Nov 2014 #15

When the voters want change it's not wise to offer them "more of the same". Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #17

As I've been saying for over a decade now, Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #18

I dunno, we had a person advocating statewide single-payer in Mass during the primaries, and just Chathamization Nov 2014 #19

So, we should continue to offer up Republican-Lite? Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #20

No, but it's also not as simple as just having people with better positions. Because people also Chathamization Nov 2014 #24

I wasn't suggesting that be the only Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #26

Well, that's true. The other issue is we're going to be better off with 52 progressives in the Chathamization Nov 2014 #27

On the other hand, Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #30

Until we all get involved in the primaries, it won't happen. riqster Nov 2014 #34

I'm not sure who "we" is Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #36

Can't argue with any of that. riqster Nov 2014 #40

I think the reason you rarely see it on the ground Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #53

No, actually, I'm not. riqster Nov 2014 #58

Vote suppression among highest on record for midterm election KamaAina Nov 2014 #21

I actually worried that turnout wasnt record low which would be even worse news randys1 Nov 2014 #28

+++++ marions ghost Nov 2014 #64

Voting is easy in California. Turnout was 30% Retrograde Nov 2014 #23

Fresno County: 28%. Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #25

on du there was more about 2016 JI7 Nov 2014 #42

Then the people get exactly what they deserve still_one Nov 2014 #57

That was my initial reaction (anger) last night. It quickly morphed into KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #67

The American People see no reason to vote when both sides are corporate stooges. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #68