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218. You are avoiding the point. The definition of a Democrat is self imposed. Anyone can

Reply to ConservativeDemocrat (Reply #213)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:06 PM

Nov 2014

label themselves a Democrat and do. My point is that you can't merely go by the label. This case is an excellent example. In this case it's obvious that there are two kinds of Democrats. Conservative Democrats and non-Conservative Democrats. They were opposing each other and the voters knew. All the Republicans voted for the Conservative Democrat, surprise!! You can distinguish them by how they vote. Conservative Democrats vote very similar to Republicans and non-Conservative Democrats don't.

Democrats that support Wall Street bailouts, fracking, the XL Pipeline, a strong handed Security State are Conservative Democrats because they agree with Republicans on these issues.

Watch our Conservative President fast track thru the TPP now that he has a favorable (Conservative) Senate.

Conservative Democrats are in the wrong party.

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You might be a ratfucker if you attack party brothers/sisters on the eve of an election [View all] nashville_brook Nov 2014 OP

K and R greatlaurel Nov 2014 #1

R#8 & K for, hear-HEAR!1 & I call *ratfucker*!1 n/t UTUSN Nov 2014 #2

Yes. That word doesn't mean DirkGently Nov 2014 #3

Once again, +1,000 LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #110

To these folks, criticism is always "ratfucking," DirkGently Nov 2014 #115

it's the very definition of bad faith. nashville_brook Nov 2014 #198

I've noticed too. bvar22 Nov 2014 #201

+1 Marr Nov 2014 #202

Yes, this is proof these people will never stop treestar Nov 2014 #4

Sigh. Calling Dems ratfuckers is the problem, DirkGently Nov 2014 #13

K and fricken R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nt MADem Nov 2014 #5

For the life of me I cannot see what the problem is with the thread the OP is calling out in the Cha Nov 2014 #49

Actually, I LIKED that thread. The one I took issue with wasn't that one. MADem Nov 2014 #73

Right.. except the OP wasn't calling out that one.. oh no.. it's the one pointing out what Cha Nov 2014 #79

That's OK--I don't want to start yet another ratfxxxing thread, so I'll make do with this one. MADem Nov 2014 #86

I agree Andy823 Nov 2014 #117

Really?? Caretha Nov 2014 #208

Just because you don't, apparently, know the origin of the word, don't blame me. MADem Nov 2014 #217

It's like we can't have different views on different things! joshcryer Nov 2014 #103

It's the GOP play book, not a RF for dems Dont call me Shirley Nov 2014 #118

There is no "unwritten message" to not vote. DirkGently Nov 2014 #119

also, the folks with this "unwritten" list seem to get all their political "life" from TV nashville_brook Nov 2014 #122

And Facebook graphics. WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2014 #160

As long as they get their asses out and vote, of course conservative dems complain the most Rex Nov 2014 #149

Yeah, "ratfuckers" do not like to be called on it.. Cha Nov 2014 #6

Whoosh. The OP is mocking your attitude. DirkGently Nov 2014 #10

Weird. One above, too. woo me with science Nov 2014 #14

they think they own the moral high ground. nashville_brook Nov 2014 #16

It's actually kind of hilarious. DirkGently Nov 2014 #19

the real story of this election is how f'n tight the progressive turnout machine is nashville_brook Nov 2014 #25

Progressives GOTV in my town. DirkGently Nov 2014 #54

Those that really GOTV know that the progressives are out there. Today I was doing calling when our rhett o rick Nov 2014 #83

that's the way it will always be when you have a choice btwn the two nashville_brook Nov 2014 #100

I spoke to one young lady that told me that she and her boyfriend canvased 3000 rhett o rick Nov 2014 #135

When someone switches parties to Republican ConservativeDemocrat Nov 2014 #179

When you are right you are right. Trouble is he didn't switch parties. He is running as a rhett o rick Nov 2014 #189

Normally, when you call someone a "DINO" I roll my eyes. ConservativeDemocrat Nov 2014 #213

You are avoiding the point. The definition of a Democrat is self imposed. Anyone can rhett o rick Nov 2014 #218

What the hell would a "Conservative Democrat" know about it? Marr Nov 2014 #205

Haven't you heard? Ratfucking is the word of the day. nt MADem Nov 2014 #84

This message was self-deleted by its author Marr Nov 2014 #204

How did you get that? ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #26

Have you ... read the OP? DirkGently Nov 2014 #33

Yes I read it ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #35

Calling Dems "Ratfuckers" IS attacking Dems. DirkGently Nov 2014 #37

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #56

No. No one is hurting elections by voicing DirkGently Nov 2014 #69

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #71

Impacting policy is what criticism is FOR. DirkGently Nov 2014 #78

Why in the world would you think the "politically disengaged," the "less engaged," etc... SMC22307 Nov 2014 #89

Because what is posted on DU ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #96

Have any specific examples to share? SMC22307 Nov 2014 #167

Yes, I do ... though I'm certain it won't matter, since ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #169

So, you really don't have examples. SMC22307 Nov 2014 #171

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #173

Seriously, no one on DU should care how NewsBusters spins things. SMC22307 Nov 2014 #177

How many times does it have to be stated? ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #180

here's the actual science from actual field work nashville_brook Nov 2014 #112

You act like you are telling me something ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #116

well then, you should be aware that this "list" is made-for-TV fiction nashville_brook Nov 2014 #123

Maybe from the writer's own words? MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 #34

Ohhh! So to get it you have to read what the OP wrote, then ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #36

I was originally going to answer "reading comprehension" MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 #39

Must be that superior Ivy League education ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #58

I don't know *what* it was, but given that the OP MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 #67

I'm not complaining about anything ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #75

I understood it fine-- no secret PM conspiracy. Marr Nov 2014 #207

I'm not fighting/debating with anyone tonight ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #210

I got it right away. The "Liberals are ratfuckers" people DirkGently Nov 2014 #40

Am I to take that personally ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #59

Do you contend liberal critics are "ratfuckers" who must be silenced? DirkGently Nov 2014 #107

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #109

Do we even know what they're whining about? DirkGently Nov 2014 #120

I know WE'D latest offering may have been a Flashpoint ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #127

Oh no. The "claim" is of an "unwritten message" NOT to vote. DirkGently Nov 2014 #132

I guess we see what we want to see ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #142

Arguing liberal principles is not "depressing turnout." DirkGently Nov 2014 #145

Get off the Ratf@%king thing and pay attention to what I am saying/have said ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #150

I don't see how calling anyone to the left of pragmatic moderate centrism "ratfuckers" helps turnout Fumesucker Nov 2014 #147

It doesn't ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #154

No, but reading for understanding helps. You guys crack me up. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2014 #41

Can you please point me to the clue ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #61

The entire post turns the other post on its head, and references the pos DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2014 #85

thank you :) nashville_brook Nov 2014 #108

+100 nt Mojorabbit Nov 2014 #93

Because making 82% of the Bush Tax Cuts permanent is a great thing! MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 #21

she has you on ignore...she can't answer you. sheshe2 Nov 2014 #51

No worries MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 #55

I'm sure of that Manny. sheshe2 Nov 2014 #62

And who do *you* "play to" when you post on DU? scarletwoman Nov 2014 #74

Do you maintain a spreadsheet as to who has whom on ignore? SMC22307 Nov 2014 #90

Nope. Nite nite. sheshe2 Nov 2014 #92

It's easy to know who you have on ignore. Just check your profile Autumn Nov 2014 #128

Heh, heh. SMC22307 Nov 2014 #164

... woo me with science Nov 2014 #184

Sometimes this place is so damn funny Autumn Nov 2014 #193

Yiz wuz right da first time. merrily Nov 2014 #129

Ha, thanks. Two hours past my bed-time... SMC22307 Nov 2014 #165

No worries. I am not a grammar nazi. I was trying to be funny. merrily Nov 2014 #168

Pfft! Enthusiast Nov 2014 #182

I don't understand all of the preemptive liberal bashing and namecalling Doctor_J Nov 2014 #7

hippie punching is soooooo 2009-2010 nashville_brook Nov 2014 #9

I believe that hippie punching was at an all time high in 1980, right before Reagan got elected. nt Zorra Nov 2014 #190

Look at the responses. They think DirkGently Nov 2014 #12

It reminds me of how they interpreted ,"Chuckles the Sensible Woodchuck". bahrbearian Nov 2014 #95

perfect comparison! nashville_brook Nov 2014 #124

Or how other conservatives take Colbert at his word, or his character's word. merrily Nov 2014 #136

Interesting-- that was actually one of the definining traits of the Marr Nov 2014 #209

That is interesting. Some cons did indeed believe Colbert was sincere, but I hope only a few. merrily Nov 2014 #214

This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 Nov 2014 #8

K&R baldguy Nov 2014 #11

Oh my god. They think you agree with them. DirkGently Nov 2014 #15

it's embarrasstastic. nashville_brook Nov 2014 #20

Cluelessness, raised to an art form. DirkGently Nov 2014 #28

the particular type of ratfucking that your describing is Phlem Nov 2014 #32

Sure seems that way. DirkGently Nov 2014 #43

Amen Brother I've been dealing with this notion/meme Phlem Nov 2014 #46

Hmm? I agree with OP. joshcryer Nov 2014 #102

Do you know what "ratfucking" means? DirkGently Nov 2014 #106

Sure, I agree with OP. joshcryer Nov 2014 #131

Good lord. No one thinks liberals are quashing the vote. DirkGently Nov 2014 #133

The youth are convinced they have nothing to vote for. joshcryer Nov 2014 #137

How is the "activist left" discouraging the youth vote, again? DirkGently Nov 2014 #141

Not discouraging, failing to encourage. joshcryer Nov 2014 #143

So it's okay to blame liberals, but "depressing" to blame conservatives? DirkGently Nov 2014 #146

How do conservatives depress a non-demographic? joshcryer Nov 2014 #158

Well, no. The "activist left" is why people are Democrats. DirkGently Nov 2014 #166

Youth turnout is dependent on the activist left. joshcryer Nov 2014 #172

"Youth turnout is dependent on the activist left." LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #178

While I'm getting the youth to vote, I'll bring home the bacon, WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2014 #185

what will they think of next?!? noiretextatique Nov 2014 #192

how about the dull and uninspiring message of a centrist party? noiretextatique Nov 2014 #191

+1 Marr Nov 2014 #206

A simple question.... if we lose tomorrow, is it because the candidate incumbents are feckless? Hoppy Nov 2014 #17

only if one of the candidates is married to the son of a preacher. nashville_brook Nov 2014 #18

Sorry to hear Blue Idaho Nov 2014 #22

blahahahaaha... nashville_brook Nov 2014 #29

:-) nt. Blue Idaho Nov 2014 #30

ROFL LeftInTX Nov 2014 #88

Selling out seldom works in real life. DirkGently Nov 2014 #23

If we lose it will be because of a combination of gerrymandering and the fact pnwmom Nov 2014 #65

Weiland would have won SD if Reid had not personally sabotaged him for being "too progressive" nashville_brook Nov 2014 #99

You may be aware, but there are silicon testicles, replacements for tissue that isn't functioning jtuck004 Nov 2014 #76

Have any candidates come out loud and proud that they're Democrats? SMC22307 Nov 2014 #91

We only lose when GOTV fails. joshcryer Nov 2014 #101

Yep. It couldn't possibly be for any other reason. F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #197

Neither. It'll be me and my 700 posts. beerandjesus Nov 2014 #159

brothers and sisters ? hahaha, many people are trolls on the internet JI7 Nov 2014 #24

you may know them by their words. nashville_brook Nov 2014 #27

Watch for people calling Dems "ratfuckers." DirkGently Nov 2014 #31

there are ratfuckers every election, and even other times, i don't consider them to be Democrats JI7 Nov 2014 #64

K&R! whatchamacallit Nov 2014 #38

Bill Hicks would've identified several waffle waitresses in this thread. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2014 #42

LOL... Whatcha reading for? SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #199

I'm so happy that someone picked up on that. Thank you. nt DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2014 #203

Awesome thread! scarletwoman Nov 2014 #44

"Hippies punch back!" DirkGently Nov 2014 #47

I like the Pavlovian conditioned response angle mentioned somewhere above. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2014 #48

.... DeSwiss Nov 2014 #45

omg! rodney's adorable! nashville_brook Nov 2014 #50

Excellent! DirkGently Nov 2014 #52

Heh heh. I want RR... WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2014 #63

Love It! KoKo Nov 2014 #194

I can't tell you how upset I am. Savannahmann Nov 2014 #53

Hey Pal? I think you and the OP are on the same side here tkmorris Nov 2014 #57

I think you may have missed the OP's point. scarletwoman Nov 2014 #60

She's saying just the opposite ... oh never mind. DirkGently Nov 2014 #81

When the boat is sinking, some will desperately bail water Maedhros Nov 2014 #161

Nicely done! DirkGently Nov 2014 #170

They have given up hope on actually making progress. Maedhros Nov 2014 #174

Hadn't thought of it that way. DirkGently Nov 2014 #175

Here's the logic, at least as explained by one of my staunchly Democratic-partisan friends: Maedhros Nov 2014 #181

Wow. That's dark. "We're only speed bumps DirkGently Nov 2014 #211

He's a clockwork-universe guy. Everything we do is the result of "physical laws" Maedhros Nov 2014 #212

You can tell they're completely stumped by this OP... WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2014 #66

i had to make an ethical decision when i realized they were taking it wrong nashville_brook Nov 2014 #98

This same crowd had to have a Jonathan Swift reference explained to them. WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2014 #155

Wow. Seemed like a straight forward op at first. If I may paraphrase... fleabiscuit Nov 2014 #68

An example of ratfucking: Union Scribe Nov 2014 #70

I don't think that's an example of ratfucking. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2014 #87

Yup LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #114

I don't understand why I was able to see that. merrily Nov 2014 #134

Yeah, me too. That poster was one of the first on my ignore list. Maedhros Nov 2014 #162

At some point, I began behaving in a way I really did not like. merrily Nov 2014 #163

That member Capt. Obvious Nov 2014 #140

I think many don't want to miss the implosion. WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2014 #153

Ah, the beauty of language packman Nov 2014 #72

Only encourage them to vote if they are gonna vote D!!! ncjustice80 Nov 2014 #77

indeed -- we know who our cray cray family members are! nashville_brook Nov 2014 #125

K & R !!! - I Doubt Most People Here... Know Where "Rat Fucker" Comes From... WillyT Nov 2014 #80

the ones who use it so liberally, so smear liberals nashville_brook Nov 2014 #97

I always thought ratfucking required duct tape. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #82

I'm with you, Brook. Blue_In_AK Nov 2014 #94

Best line in this thread...... djean111 Nov 2014 #104

i *just* saw that! omg -- dying! nashville_brook Nov 2014 #113

Hard to choose just one. merrily Nov 2014 #139

I'm confused by this post/thread vi5 Nov 2014 #105

:) i actually started out to separate the two, and then was like, "screw it" nashville_brook Nov 2014 #121

O.K. good.... vi5 Nov 2014 #126

seriously.... justabob Nov 2014 #157

Sounds like you got the OP perfectly merrily Nov 2014 #138

K and Ratfucking R Oilwellian Nov 2014 #111

I agree (and thanks), but I don't think Harry S. Truman was a hippie. merrily Nov 2014 #130

Well worth the long read. DirkGently Nov 2014 #148

Harry is no doubt gratified from beyond. merrily Nov 2014 #151

"Well worth the long read." It sure was. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #186

Thank you, merrily. That is a thing of beauty. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #187

Thanks go only to Harry! merrily Nov 2014 #216

Merrily...I have to pull these paragraphs out... KoKo Nov 2014 #195

I should have given the link. The speech appears on the Truman Presidential Library website. merrily Nov 2014 #215

"We are not going to get anywhere by trimming or appeasing. And we don't need to try it." nashville_brook Nov 2014 #200

This. Puglover Nov 2014 #144

Yet another Bobbie Jo Nov 2014 #152

^^^ exactly what I was thinking. bettyellen Nov 2014 #156

In reaction to a "more Democrat than thou" thread. merrily Nov 2014 #176

If the OP made you unhappy Android3.14 Nov 2014 #183

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Nov 2014 #188

Thanks for needlessly calling out that other thread. I K&R'd it Number23 Nov 2014 #196