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ozone_man

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93. Likely to happen.

Reply to Playinghardball (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:28 PM

Nov 2014

Especially since Obama was not strong on SS to begin with.

It is very strange to watch the political swings, when half or more of the electorate does not think through the implications of their vote or party. On the other hand, maybe it is a smart move (channeling Hillary) to let the swing go the other way to make the populace want something different (again), in 2016. These are difficult times, with everything that was dumped in Obama, mainly the middle east wars, and the economy/banking fiasco. I credit him with launching some kind of national health care policy. On the banking and war front, I'd say he is slightly better than Bush.

I suspect that regardless of a president's personal ideals, the reality of options is laid out in front of him.

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Yep. kentuck Nov 2014 #1

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That would be correct, and....? Autumn Nov 2014 #23

And what? He's fucking correct, unlike those of you who continue to blame Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #27

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Blammo. hifiguy Nov 2014 #32

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Can we agree to let the South secede now? zelduh Nov 2014 #65

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...and we thought we were voting for FDR? L0oniX Nov 2014 #139

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^^^this^^^ L0oniX Nov 2014 #141

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do Dems have any responsibility, EVER? Skittles Nov 2014 #73

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He listed some of them. Cleita Nov 2014 #6

+1 Johonny Nov 2014 #9

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K&R! Bernie is always right on. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #5

YES turbinetree Nov 2014 #7

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Tax breaks for billionaires...... DeSwiss Nov 2014 #13

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No. nt City Lights Nov 2014 #61

K&R.... daleanime Nov 2014 #35

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There's that stupid fucking broad brush again. djean111 Nov 2014 #125

Buyer's remorse is comin' right up! theHandpuppet Nov 2014 #49

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K & R AzDar Nov 2014 #54

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stupid, STUPID people Skittles Nov 2014 #72

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Likely to happen. ozone_man Nov 2014 #93

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or a fox news viewer. . B Calm Nov 2014 #100

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As others have said... SoapBox Nov 2014 #114

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Run Bernie run!!!! TheNutcracker Nov 2014 #133

K & R ctsnowman Nov 2014 #138

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K&R ReRe Nov 2014 #145

K&R JEB Nov 2014 #146

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Please, please run for President, Bernie! nt Zorra Nov 2014 #152