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212. Why would Manny need to "hit the alert button", Joe?

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 10:02 PM

Nov 2014

I believe he begged the question if running candidates with democratic principles was more important than voting for a poser of democratic principles.

Can you tell the difference between what we have and what we should insist on?

I just got through reading about some lobbyist who becomes the head of a state Democratic party and who runs candidates that vote along with Republicans. I wish we'd compare someone like that to a Howard Dean's and his 50 state strategy to win back the "Democratic wing of the Democratic Party"?

The head of the FL Democratic party helped as a lobbyist scrub a bunch of black voters off the FL voter rolls. Florida just caved in to fascism more via the last GOTV, which my sister worked her ass off to assist with, locally in Pinellas County. Florida just gave a real boot to the Republicans and re-elected Rick Scott. What kind of Democratic candidate make it in Florida? The kind who work with Republicans.

What is wrong with examining and then demanding that we no longer allow that kind of thing to continue? Your input is the same as Manny's here. The solution is to invite real thought, not the alert button.

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