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In reply to the discussion: To everyone who has stated we need to flush the party of 3rd way [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)FDR railed against and is the source of famous quote, is exactly who FDR had to go to get money to defeat the Nazis by asking for financing from the banks for the war machine built by the capitalist auto 'General Motors,' etc.
It's sad to see this Bircher meme about the banksters repeated ad infinitum and the critique of Obama being a bank lackey for appointing experts from the banking industry to deal with the banking industry and the nuclear TARP issue. Who did people want that was so knowledgeable and fit their views of banks, Joe the Plumber?
And the fact that FDR built his Democratic majority by allowing the Blue Dogs in the South to continue with Jim Crow is forgotten. They leave all of that out, along with the internment of citizens of Japanese descent who lost all they had worked for to racists. That Democratic majority had some very dark spots in it, and Obama has worked to bring it into the light and be inclusive.
Truman lost more in the elections in the fifties than Obama has, and he took us down the MIC path and soon to be Cold War. PBO has stood up to the MIC despite the howling media denigrating him as weak. Strange, isn't it, that so many sound just like the GOP when they speak of Obama. They want a strong man, guess they miss GWB.
Kennedy also lowered corporate tax rates while cutting loopholes. Same as Obama. But he is dead, and anointed, when he really was hawkish in some ways that cost many lives. That is forgotten.
Don't get me wrong, I love FDR who in his time, was the equivalent of Obama as far as believing in the power of the people's government to make their lives better. But the people have to vote, said FDR. Yet I am not among those hurt by Jim Crow nor were my ancestors sent to camps, so I can't see just one side of the man as some do and be true to my ideals.
Neither Kucinich, Warren or Sanders will be good enough for the same crowd. And they will not get past the primaries if they choose to run, not because of some evil 3rd way conspiracy, but that the majority of Americans who DO VOTE, don't like them. Both Warren and Sanders begged people to get out and vote this year. But they didn't now, and they will surely find reasons to not vote for them by then.