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AgingAmerican

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96. Do you support candidates that vote against your own interests?

Reply to Spazito (Reply #67)

Thu Nov 6, 2014, 03:20 PM

Nov 2014

I thought only Republicans were stupid enough to elect people who promise to impoverish them...

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To everyone who has stated we need to flush the party of 3rd way [View all] Peacetrain Nov 2014 OP

It is all BS treestar Nov 2014 #1

I am baffled Peacetrain Nov 2014 #4

Yeah, the D party can only run the D that the Ds in that election treestar Nov 2014 #9

Its a mystery to me Peacetrain Nov 2014 #15

We should just airdrop pallets of far left candidates into Red districts and let them run. FSogol Nov 2014 #33

Clones!!!! Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2014 #44

lol treestar Nov 2014 #77

Who decides, MONEY, that's who.. Bandit Nov 2014 #109

If you really believe that, then your only way is to raise as much money as possible treestar Nov 2014 #122

The party chooses the candidate, right? Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #115

They could if they wanted to treestar Nov 2014 #123

I agree with you. Andy823 Nov 2014 #34

Funny thing would be if that candidate does not win treestar Nov 2014 #76

Exactly Andy823 Nov 2014 #99

Candidates need access to voters... Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #116

If we are entirely dependent on the MSM treestar Nov 2014 #124

they view political parties as a religion JI7 Nov 2014 #37

Exactly, good analogy treestar Nov 2014 #75

"My friends we run who we have." merrily Nov 2014 #2

Of course not.. we is the generic "we".. Peacetrain Nov 2014 #5

At least one person who posts here has posted that he does influence that choice, merrily Nov 2014 #12

We the Democrats pick that candidate treestar Nov 2014 #11

How did you vote in the 2012 Presidential primary? Don't you think the 2016 merrily Nov 2014 #17

another fine example VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #31

Apparently, yeah. treestar Nov 2014 #79

Explain how these primaries work in 3D world and the next reply will... Amonester Nov 2014 #120

Could be. In caucus states like Minnesota, MineralMan Nov 2014 #19

Yes, thank you. I know. That's why I asked the OP very politely about his or merrily Nov 2014 #26

OP Described His/Her Level of Engagement AndyTiedye Nov 2014 #43

Yes, I saw the post. merrily Nov 2014 #50

So right wing is the best we can ever hope for? AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #3

Did not say that.. I want to know where Peacetrain Nov 2014 #7

"Purer" And I thought this was going to be a sincere discussion. My mistake. merrily Nov 2014 #13

Never mind.. you got your back up.. Peacetrain Nov 2014 #16

Yeah, that's it. merrily Nov 2014 #18

Barbara Buono and Zephyr Teachout stepped forward and we know how their fates were dealt with by the adirondacker Nov 2014 #71

Dems sweep GOP off Wake Board of Commissioners (North Carolina) WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2014 #6

This deserves its own post. Wonderful! nt mariawr Nov 2014 #82

canidate? GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #8

Thanks for the heads up Peacetrain Nov 2014 #23

Dreams & caviar wishes there isn't anyone one out there that will win now.. Historic NY Nov 2014 #10

We sat home? merrily Nov 2014 #21

School boards still matter. And they're the 'farm teams' for people to move on to city councils Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #88

Every movement has its beginnings. We are still in the beginning stages, but with the liberal_at_heart Nov 2014 #14

This is my point.. you can't throw all that on the backs of a couple of people.. Peacetrain Nov 2014 #20

Why find reasons why running liberals is a bad idea, instead of genuinely exploring how merrily Nov 2014 #22

Strange.. only you are saying that Peacetrain Nov 2014 #25

Read your own post about Sanders and Warren. merrily Nov 2014 #29

I don't care who runs, but I'm tired of only having one choice. I have been voting for democrats for liberal_at_heart Nov 2014 #24

Okay, so what do you do to get canidates that more Peacetrain Nov 2014 #27

How should I know? Political and community meetings are probably a good starting point. liberal_at_heart Nov 2014 #28

No, candidates reflect the positions their handlers, advisors, and consultants tell them to take. OrwellwasRight Nov 2014 #42

And money LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #97

yep marions ghost Nov 2014 #104

No, we will not be. OrwellwasRight Nov 2014 #111

Oh yeah marions ghost Nov 2014 #113

Most Americans support the progressive economic positions. OrwellwasRight Nov 2014 #117

What is even more ridiculous is that every single elected Democrat is 3rd way to that crowd. FSogol Nov 2014 #30

I know a lot of our local candidates Peacetrain Nov 2014 #32

I know the feeling. I help out at a lot of tiny local campaigns. FSogol Nov 2014 #35

FDR, Truman and Kennedy were very much real people OrwellwasRight Nov 2014 #46

yet, FDR was loathed by the left wyldwolf Nov 2014 #51

That must be why he got elected 4 times... OrwellwasRight Nov 2014 #119

That's only assuming ... wyldwolf Nov 2014 #121

It was. OrwellwasRight Nov 2014 #145

The New Deal was made in response to that JonLP24 Nov 2014 #125

he was loathed by the left, in part, because of the new deal. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #127

A lot of what is said there JonLP24 Nov 2014 #128

But a lot of it isn't wyldwolf Nov 2014 #129

I'm not exactly fond of JFK JonLP24 Nov 2014 #130

FDR co-opted the left wyldwolf Nov 2014 #132

I already posted the events that led to fragmentation of the Democratic party JonLP24 Nov 2014 #133

"I looked up your claim" - but you missed it. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #134

The context of crackpot said there is the same as his letter to Eleanor Roosevelt JonLP24 Nov 2014 #135

No, he was specifically referring to the '48 election wyldwolf Nov 2014 #138

I know exactly what he is referring to JonLP24 Nov 2014 #139

it certainly wasn't 'communists' as you stated up-thread. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #140

There may be a comphrension problem JonLP24 Nov 2014 #141

if there is, it's yours wyldwolf Nov 2014 #142

Who he was referring to was never in dispute JonLP24 Nov 2014 #143

"Near mythical" refers to them and their achievements being held over the achievements of other more FSogol Nov 2014 #56

No, I got your point. OrwellwasRight Nov 2014 #95

So, what Democrats do you consider to be third way? FSogol Nov 2014 #98

Any self-proclaimed OrwellwasRight Nov 2014 #110

So basically, every elected Democrat except Warren and Sanders, right? FSogol Nov 2014 #112

Wow, so lost in your "I hate progressives" meme that you don't even know who's in Congress, do you? OrwellwasRight Nov 2014 #118

You do know Jim Moran was replaced by Don Beyer, right? FSogol Nov 2014 #131

I've been on this site since 2004 OrwellwasRight Nov 2014 #144

Check out this chart showing FDR was able to work with a House AND Senate... Spazito Nov 2014 #57

Never said it was easy OrwellwasRight Nov 2014 #94

What they forget, per Ken Burns' documentary, is that the 'organized money' that... freshwest Nov 2014 #68

Well said. FDR, Truman, and Kennedy are giants among Presidents, but they were no more perfect FSogol Nov 2014 #74

Warren and Sanders have already been thrown under the bus by some... FrodosPet Nov 2014 #136

True. n/t FSogol Nov 2014 #137

Maybe some of US need to run for office. kaiden Nov 2014 #36

Steny Hoyer once said that everyone should run for an office at some point in their lives Recursion Nov 2014 #48

Seems so intrusive. kaiden Nov 2014 #60

yeah, this was 20 years ago Recursion Nov 2014 #61

Takes a calling to be effective but you are correct. mariawr Nov 2014 #83

Those who feel SO strongly about the need for more progressive candidates... Spazito Nov 2014 #38

neither do I... MrMickeysMom Nov 2014 #146

Kudos to you for running... Spazito Nov 2014 #147

I mainly know about races around here and what I pick up here and there in other areas Chathamization Nov 2014 #39

Exactly. laundry_queen Nov 2014 #54

I always surprised about the self-proclaimed socialists, communists, more radical environmentalists, branford Nov 2014 #40

Obama won on the populist message RiverLover Nov 2014 #41

Do you really think more progressive candidates would have won branford Nov 2014 #45

Which is more crazed, to think progressives migh win where moderates lost or to think that moderates Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #91

The majority of Americans Andy823 Nov 2014 #47

Campaigning =/= governing YoungDemCA Nov 2014 #49

Psst, Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #89

The Democrats are still generally the "leftmost" choice. branford Nov 2014 #100

I bring Bernie up because Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #103

No candidate is perfect, and few agree with all of a party's platform. branford Nov 2014 #105

Except that what I ACTUALLY complain about in re specific Democrats Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #106

Good grief, what an amazing post Number23 Nov 2014 #149

Gawd what a crock RobertEarl Nov 2014 #52

DLCers are corporatist trash. Repub-lite. Purge those from the party. peacebird Nov 2014 #53

Then I assume you're leaving this blog Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2014 #55

Depends on what the Dems do. If they lean towards Warren & Sanders I stay, if towards corporations.. peacebird Nov 2014 #66

You reap what you sow... Spazito Nov 2014 #59

I vote. I will not vote for those who do not support my interests any longer peacebird Nov 2014 #65

I guess you will be voting for a party of one, your party... Spazito Nov 2014 #67

Do you support candidates that vote against your own interests? AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #96

I vote for candidates whose party comes closest to representing my views... Spazito Nov 2014 #101

The message I hear from conservative dems is always the same garbage Rex Nov 2014 #70

Exactly. peacebird Nov 2014 #72

I ran and won twice as the kind of candidate you'd desire & can weigh on this subject... MrMickeysMom Nov 2014 #58

Most Important Post. Octafish Nov 2014 #73

Appreciate the nod, Octafish... MrMickeysMom Nov 2014 #114

++++++++ Barack_America Nov 2014 #151

I have no idea where you live. We have no 'Third Way' candidates and we won pretty big. Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #62

My Congressman, Kurt Schrader (D), is most definitely Third Way. Did you see the commercials for him neverforget Nov 2014 #64

But what would we fredamae Nov 2014 #81

We don't see those ads here. Kurt is not a member of the group Third Way Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #90

Millionaires� Club: For First Time, Most Lawmakers are Worth $1 Million-Plus Zorra Nov 2014 #63

When you run GOP-lite candidates in red states, chances are they will pick the actual Republican Rex Nov 2014 #69

Trouble is - to the whiners the only qualification needed to be part of the "3rd way" baldguy Nov 2014 #78

to assume the same candidate-template works everywhere is simply naive DrDan Nov 2014 #80

The "3rd way" has the money. BKH70041 Nov 2014 #84

No it is not bullshit. Your post may be bullshit. Not having enough money from corporations is djean111 Nov 2014 #86

I didn't write the rules. BKH70041 Nov 2014 #93

I believe this is also a case of where money skews everything. djean111 Nov 2014 #85

Warren for President! nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #87

The fix is in - TBF Nov 2014 #92

we will never get those candidiates DonCoquixote Nov 2014 #102

They can stay, and make the same tired excuses for voting with the Republicans. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #107

I knows a guy. Don't worry about it. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2014 #108

The current system is rigged against them. They don't get big $$$ needed to run against corporatists corkhead Nov 2014 #126

Here: Zorra Nov 2014 #148

Got my vote... think Nov 2014 #152

Then I expect Warren to be run and Clinton kicked to the curb. Barack_America Nov 2014 #150

Some of them may be here. RadicalGeek Nov 2014 #153

Maybe they need to take a civic lesson to understand how the election process runs still_one Nov 2014 #154