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Odin2005

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78. Shaming people into voting for the lesser of the two evils does not work.

Thu Nov 6, 2014, 07:13 PM

Nov 2014

Yet the Establishment Dems keep on trying, angerily lashing out as people who refuse to vote for Republican-light, this depressing turnout even more.

It's almost as if the DLC rat-fuckers WANT to lose.

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Only 36.6% of people voted in this past midterm [View all] bigdarryl Nov 2014 OP

Perhaps it's a sign of non-confidence in the system rather than apathy? nt GliderGuider Nov 2014 #1

I think that's a strong factor. Many people I run into think the system is so F'ed up it is RKP5637 Nov 2014 #4

We are part of the system when we vote. upaloopa Nov 2014 #26

It's getting to be a brick wall. Often I think some democrats prefer to whine than vote, I just RKP5637 Nov 2014 #36

But you let your oppressors know what you think TBF Nov 2014 #88

Bill Moyers suggests it may be due to Voting Restrictions dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #10

+1 JHB Nov 2014 #18

The restrictions themselves have a chilling effect... Orsino Nov 2014 #63

+1000000 liberal_at_heart Nov 2014 #12

Yeah, but government is not some game that can just be ignored. Dawgs Nov 2014 #13

Sure it can. jeff47 Nov 2014 #37

But they don't remain the same. Dawgs Nov 2014 #44

And Democrats have run in terror from all of those issues. jeff47 Nov 2014 #46

Not the point. Dawgs Nov 2014 #48

Yes, it is the point. jeff47 Nov 2014 #54

No. The point is that YOU SAID 'peoples problems don't change if they elect Democrats'. Dawgs Nov 2014 #58

You are arguing that Democrats would make things better. I'm pointing out history jeff47 Nov 2014 #61

What? Dawgs Nov 2014 #67

So true! Where was democratic leadership? workinclasszero Nov 2014 #71

I've heard that argument countless times... HoosierRadical Nov 2014 #24

Standing in that Black Friday line solves a problem jeff47 Nov 2014 #39

Your point is well taken, it is just HoosierRadical Nov 2014 #73

I'm with you BeyondGeography Nov 2014 #65

That's exactly what it was. An analogy might be a man standing on ballyhoo Nov 2014 #25

1984 jwirr Nov 2014 #49

Exactly.....I said two days ago after ballyhoo Nov 2014 #55

If folks don't believe their vote matters, they don't vote. NorthCarolina Nov 2014 #31

I want to ask your opinion on something... ballyhoo Nov 2014 #60

Nothing makes sense because NorthCarolina Nov 2014 #90

Yes. Again, I agree with everything you say. Thanks for ballyhoo Nov 2014 #92

At this point I'm pretty sure he's mostly concentrating NorthCarolina Nov 2014 #93

Right on both points. The machine made a great ballyhoo Nov 2014 #94

YES -- that is a key element of the GOP Strategy Martin Eden Nov 2014 #38

You could easily be correct. The Rs have been preaching anti-government from their pulpit for over jwirr Nov 2014 #42

I'm not American, however GliderGuider Nov 2014 #50

And this could be the reason for the not voting? That's what I ballyhoo Nov 2014 #62

Agree about the corporate corruption. And I think you are correct about many who have just dropped jwirr Nov 2014 #66

That, is how a country descends into oblivion as hucksters, shysters and criminals sleaze into RKP5637 Nov 2014 #2

Only slightly less than the number of people who know who runs Congress BeyondGeography Nov 2014 #3

Ugh... Rex Nov 2014 #43

Only 60% of solid liberals answered both correctly? Jamaal510 Nov 2014 #85

Oregon did "ok" fredamae Nov 2014 #5

THEY VOTE BY MAIL! Cosmocat Nov 2014 #28

So does WA & CO n/t fredamae Nov 2014 #30

I'd give som credit to our Sec of State Kate Brown and other officials who actively encourage voting Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #32

Couldn't agree more-I volunteered fredamae Nov 2014 #35

Yes we did pretty good! neverforget Nov 2014 #87

So Millennials will wait 6 hours in pouring rain for new iPhone - but won't vote Baclava Nov 2014 #6

Pathetic, and then many wonder why everything is so F'ed up in this place loosely called RKP5637 Nov 2014 #7

Millennials came out in droves for Obama. It did not help them. They are still swimming in debt and liberal_at_heart Nov 2014 #11

Oh, so people should only vote when there's something specifically in it for them? Baclava Nov 2014 #14

They aren't voting because Democrats aren't fixing their problems. jeff47 Nov 2014 #45

They had better be worried about Social Security.. or they will end up supporting grandma on top of jwirr Nov 2014 #64

Some did their best, while walking in to vote, a young lady asked me when can she vote for president Baclava Nov 2014 #72

Only they can make it better. upaloopa Nov 2014 #15

shhhhh. they have better things to do with their time than vote Baclava Nov 2014 #21

So they think only voting every 4 years is going to instantly HoosierRadical Nov 2014 #29

Instantly? I've been waiting for Democrats to fix things for 22 years. jeff47 Nov 2014 #40

So what problem are you trying to fix and what have you been doing besides voting to try to get it jwirr Nov 2014 #68

Up until now, not much. jeff47 Nov 2014 #76

Local is the key anyhow. One of the things I am lucky about is that my state MN went pretty much jwirr Nov 2014 #77

Democrats can only do what they have the power to do HoosierRadical Nov 2014 #74

His. Along with the rest of the Democratic party jeff47 Nov 2014 #75

Maybe they simply lost trust because they didn't get what they voted for when they Zorra Nov 2014 #47

Yea, sure, blame us Millennials, not the shitty candidates. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #79

It's disgusting, but did it matter? HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #8

And herein lies the real reason our political process is so screwed up. Brigid Nov 2014 #9

They regularly beat us with money, they regularly beat us with mid-term turnout HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #16

Interestingly, many of the states with very low turnout are red states. Kaleva Nov 2014 #17

Do we know how this matches up to other midterm elections? aikoaiko Nov 2014 #19

yes drray23 Nov 2014 #56

Yes, but close (within 4%) to most midterms since 1972 aikoaiko Nov 2014 #69

Yep. Disgusting. Triana Nov 2014 #20

Voting should be made easier, not more difficult and IMO, it should be mandatory to every American lonestarnot Nov 2014 #22

Yes it should, unfortunately, the people of this country don't care Cosmocat Nov 2014 #27

Yup. What's that latest Taylor Swift album's title like again? Amonester Nov 2014 #83

Thankfully that's unconstitutional LittleBlue Nov 2014 #80

It is disgraceful! bobGandolf Nov 2014 #23

++1 Historic NY Nov 2014 #34

No kidding! n/t bobGandolf Nov 2014 #95

What was the reason for the other 63% to show up on election day? dilby Nov 2014 #33

That is pathetic. Rex Nov 2014 #41

Repubs won nothing, the Democrats lost. Dawson Leery Nov 2014 #51

Considering these were tough fights in red states, I tend to agree with you. Rex Nov 2014 #52

36% was the average national turnout. Dawson Leery Nov 2014 #82

on NPR I heard that drray23 Nov 2014 #53

here is a link with a graphic showing participation rate drray23 Nov 2014 #57

I agree, but not surprising in some places redheaddem Nov 2014 #59

Pathetic workinclasszero Nov 2014 #70

Shaming people into voting for the lesser of the two evils does not work. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #78

"It's almost as if the DLC rat-fuckers WANT to lose" - TBF Nov 2014 #89

Varied WIDELY by state though ctaylors6 Nov 2014 #81

I've got one easy solution to propose: PAY them to vote... Amonester Nov 2014 #84

Hurray for taking for granted what people fought and died for! eom Jamaal510 Nov 2014 #86

I bet none of those 36% were liberals either Capt. Obvious Nov 2014 #91