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KingCharlemagne

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60. Just a guess, but I think the OP is passive aggressively trying to impugn

Thu Nov 6, 2014, 07:39 PM

Nov 2014

the character of Ms. Fleischmann by insinuating that she came forward too late for nefarious unspecified reasons on Ms. Fleischmann's part that can only be hinted at and never detailed. In so doing, the OP hopes to indemnify Holder from criticism of 'throwing the case' b/c, see, Fleischmann waited too long.

Had the OP been around during Vietnam, he or she no doubt would have taken issue with Daniel Ellsberg waiting so long to leak the PP to the press. No matter that Ellsberg tried to leak them to several congress people first only to be rebuffed.

Thus, the OP hopes to change the story from a criminal conspiracy to obstruct justice by Attorney General Holder, Dimon and other unspecified co-conspirators to the whistleblower's own shortcomings. Classic deflection 101.

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The problem with Matt Taibbi's piece... [View all] ProSense Nov 2014 OP

She probably believed Eric Holder CanonRay Nov 2014 #1

Not to mention Ed Meese KamaAina Nov 2014 #137

They all belong the AG Hall of Fame. Or shame. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #186

In total agreement JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #2

Yeah, she was so upset. Comes out just in time to set the mood for 2016. freshwest Nov 2014 #114

You are right - the story DOES prove why it needs to be there JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #118

I've read that she and Bill disputed the repeal of Glass-Stegall. And found this: freshwest Nov 2014 #119

Ohhhhh - I really like that JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #120

I think they spell it 'principal' as if it's loan amount or a school official. freshwest Nov 2014 #158

We blame President Obama, er, truedelphi Nov 2014 #151

Attack the victim - TBF Nov 2014 #3

Well, you can't be a good "centrist" and attack the *banks," for Heaven's Sake! villager Nov 2014 #5

And the other thing is that the witness came out 2 and a half years ago - truedelphi Nov 2014 #156

Yup... joeybee12 Nov 2014 #6

Not to mention the fact that TBF Nov 2014 #9

Exactly, I'd leave this country to speak out in her position, too Warpy Nov 2014 #54

Ask a question. ProSense Nov 2014 #7

This is corruption and your TBF Nov 2014 #11

Where in the OP is there a "defense" of "corruption"? ProSense Nov 2014 #12

You didn't read the article did you. SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #17

Did you? ProSense Nov 2014 #20

Yeah twice and what you posted confirms I'm right... SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #25

You know ProSense Nov 2014 #33

You know... you are right... SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #46

OK, I read this post. ProSense Nov 2014 #49

It makes perfect sense to anyone who SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #51

This is the entire purpose of your ProSense Nov 2014 #56

+1 You nailed it. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #187

If you aren't attacking the victim, then what is the point of your OP? rhett o rick Nov 2014 #64

Post 4 and 48 seem to understood the point you missed. n/t ProSense Nov 2014 #65

I think it is fair question. Raine1967 Nov 2014 #45

Expect nothing less from the OP. nt valerief Nov 2014 #75

Better late than never 99th_Monkey Nov 2014 #4

"and yes the timing is heart-breaking (missing the Warren Hearings)" ProSense Nov 2014 #10

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^n/t truedelphi Nov 2014 #152

You couldn't get farther than five paragraphs before finding a "problem" with the whistleblower. Marr Nov 2014 #8

The problem is the timing. ProSense Nov 2014 #14

I would think you'd cheer the timing. A day after the election. Marr Nov 2014 #26

You think the timing a day after the election is good? ProSense Nov 2014 #28

Yes, Obama's DOJ should've brought her into the hearings instead of sweeping Marr Nov 2014 #41

No, the problem is that she makes Obama look bad mindwalker_i Nov 2014 #67

If she had come out during the Warren hearings, would that have made him look good? n/t ProSense Nov 2014 #69

Then you'd find something else to to nitpick mindwalker_i Nov 2014 #70

Would you have been happier had this come out then? n/t ProSense Nov 2014 #71

Now you want it to be about me? mindwalker_i Nov 2014 #72

Really? SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #13

Has this changed? ProSense Nov 2014 #15

It wouldn't have made a difference. SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #18

This is about the Warren hearings. ProSense Nov 2014 #22

No I'm saying no one in your beloved Obama administration gave enough of a shit SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #29

See comment 48 ProSense Nov 2014 #52

She had interviews with the U.S. attorney's office in 2012 she gave them Autumn Nov 2014 #165

Just want to say I haven't missed you elias49 Nov 2014 #16

I love you too, and I don't even know you. n/t ProSense Nov 2014 #24

Why is the problem with Taibbi? He's just reporting. Cleita Nov 2014 #19

It's a short thread title. Clearly, the point is about the timing. n/t ProSense Nov 2014 #21

A whistle blower coming forward under a gag order Autumn Nov 2014 #23

Here's what I read: ProSense Nov 2014 #27

I wish she has come out then too, but I understand why she didn't. Dimon is a powerful man Autumn Nov 2014 #31

Thanks, and good comment. n/t ProSense Nov 2014 #43

After reading it all I think Holder and Dimon's asses should be hauled in front of a special Autumn Nov 2014 #55

Let's hope the new AG will actually go after the banksters. Rex Nov 2014 #191

Would Statute(s) of Limitation(s) fredamae Nov 2014 #30

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That comment makes no sense. Wanting this to have been revealed during the Warren hearings ProSense Nov 2014 #36

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I really have to agree. 'Ass whoopin' clinic' is a perfect description Number23 Nov 2014 #162

She could mercuryblues Nov 2014 #34

What a petty, silly, Stretch Armstrong reach for a complaint that is. Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #35

This is from post 4 ProSense Nov 2014 #39

Well said! n/t markpkessinger Nov 2014 #42

What does that have to do with Matt Taibbi? arcane1 Nov 2014 #37

Smeared en route to smearing a whistle blower as all whistle blowers are smeared. TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #117

It looks to me gratuitous Nov 2014 #38

I knew it! Enrique Nov 2014 #40

LOL! ProSense Nov 2014 #44

Wonder if this is what all the suicides in the bankers circle is all about? jwirr Nov 2014 #47

Warren's hearings were focused on white-washing regulators; so yes, Fleischmann's testimony Luminous Animal Nov 2014 #48

Doesn't surprise me in the least. She had multiple reasons to hold out magical thyme Nov 2014 #50

It would have been nice but the facts are coming out now and better late than never. pa28 Nov 2014 #53

Just a guess, but I think the OP is passive aggressively trying to impugn KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #60

If that's true it's a tactic I've seen on this site many times before. pa28 Nov 2014 #62

The bottom line for me here is that there is NO PROBLEM with KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #66

Yes. And based on the low number of recs, SMC22307 Nov 2014 #169

I noticed that, but that is not Taibbi's problem he is just reporting on the issue. Rex Nov 2014 #57

A better question is why didn't The Intercept want this story? randome Nov 2014 #58

First, this story wouldn't have appeared on The Intercept. Hissyspit Nov 2014 #63

Unless this story was written in 15 minutes, it was written for Racket. randome Nov 2014 #68

Why wouldn't Omidyar want the story published? Major Hogwash Nov 2014 #107

Maybe she knew what happens to whistleblowers? Hissyspit Nov 2014 #59

Still wish she had come out during the Warren hearings. Besides ProSense Nov 2014 #61

Prosense is back!!! JaneyVee Nov 2014 #74

To his usual NONsense. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #77

What a load of centrist BS. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #76

Where have you been? tularetom Nov 2014 #78

She still has the majority until the end of the Congressional Session Fearless Nov 2014 #84

The problem is the title of your thread. It is incorrect. nt Rex Nov 2014 #87

If wishes were horses, beggars would ride. JEB Nov 2014 #89

The only thing wrong with Taibbi's piece - is no explaining why back at RS laserhaas Nov 2014 #98

The hive is strong here. joshcryer Nov 2014 #106

Truth hurts. ProSense Nov 2014 #123

Perhaps "Why did this report have to come out before the midterms" would have been the alternative adirondacker Nov 2014 #132

The problem with Matt Taibbi's piece is that it doesn't fit your narrative. U4ikLefty Nov 2014 #109

LOL TransitJohn Nov 2014 #121

Thank you so much for providing the missing under bus chucking. nt. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #127

are you suggesting he was waiting untill after the elections so as to avoid harm to the Democrats? Douglas Carpenter Nov 2014 #129

I don't think Taibbi held off on the story....I just don't think he could get it published msanthrope Nov 2014 #133

Matt Taibbi and the "Whistleblower" Puglover Nov 2014 #131

Hi Puglover. I've read Taibbi's piece three times now. The problem with it Autumn Nov 2014 #160

Let me know what your take is m'dear! Puglover Nov 2014 #161

My take is a special prosecutor is needed Autumn Nov 2014 #163

Agree after watching the interview on DN yesterday and KoKo Nov 2014 #188

What is the problem with Taibbi's piece? Vattel Nov 2014 #147

ProSense, pls take the time to watch the Democracy Now video about this woman witness. truedelphi Nov 2014 #157

The NDA and the subsequent blacklisting MFrohike Nov 2014 #171

Because she was afraid "they" would kill her? Enthusiast Nov 2014 #185