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31. Third Way = Wall Street infiltration of the party

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:45 AM

Nov 2014

I am trashing this thread. It is a Wall Street/Third Way talking point. I recommend others do the same: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025767160

Let's get this straight. Neither the corporate Democrats' prominence in the party nor the constant propaganda on behalf of them was EVER a grass roots phenomenon.

The Third Way is and has always been a corporate-designed, corporate-bankrolled, deliberate infiltration of the party with the goal of transferring the party's representation and policy agenda from the people to corporate interests. They are working *against* the people. And the recent election results show that the people are waking up to that.

What a twisted, insulting talking point. We are supposed to feel sorry for expelling corporate infiltrators. This talking point is as offensive as when the Third Way tried to make everybody feel sorry for bankers when OWS was finally bringing attention to the crimes of the mortgage crisis.

When the DLC connections to the Koch Bros. became well known, they just rebranded the infiltration
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4165556

When you hear "Third Way", think INVESTMENT BANKERS
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024127432

GOP Donors and K Street Fuel Third Way’s Advice for the Democratic Party
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101680116

The Rightwing Koch Brothers fund the DLC
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x498414

Same companies behind the GOP are behind the DLC
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1481121

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I don't like purges. [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 OP

why don't people just start their own party, as you say purges are for totalitarian type places JI7 Nov 2014 #1

But starting a party would require donor$ LeftInTX Nov 2014 #2

the claims are that the many who don't vote is because they agree JI7 Nov 2014 #3

The Third Way HAS donors, they infiltrated our party for a reason. The goal is to sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #37

"infiltrate." LOL. Hey, why don't you and I have a serious historical discussion? wyldwolf Nov 2014 #97

Sure, any time. I know the history of the DLC/Third Way and will be happy to share it with sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #132

I'm game. Just make sure the 'history' you tell is sourced from places other than anti-DLC sites wyldwolf Nov 2014 #133

If there is a third way, as you call it, why should they not work for what they want? treestar Nov 2014 #100

Well argued!!! +1! nt MADem Nov 2014 #107

Third Way most certainly exists. It is a 'think tank' organized by centrists in 2005 Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #125

Oh there has definitely been a purge, (latest 3rd Way talking point now all over the place sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #130

There isn't any purging treestar Nov 2014 #141

Oh yes, there has been a purge of Liberals from the Dem Party. Name one real Progressive sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #142

Then they'd have to get some treestar Nov 2014 #99

Are you kidding? That happened in 2000 with Nader and we will never hear the end of it! Rex Nov 2014 #5

Nader only ran so Gore would lose JI7 Nov 2014 #6

It was another party and whats to stop them from doing it again? Rex Nov 2014 #8

so you are saying they should not be criticized ? i'm not really understand your point JI7 Nov 2014 #9

You said people should make their own party, the Greens did just that and cost us dearly. Rex Nov 2014 #11

they didn't make their own party, their purpose was for Gore to lose JI7 Nov 2014 #13

Not me, but the Green party did NOT form in 2000 just for one purpose. Been around since 1984. Rex Nov 2014 #15

the 2000 presidential run WAS about wanting Gore to lose JI7 Nov 2014 #20

And it can happen again is my point. Rex Nov 2014 #21

a serious political party would actually want to win themselves JI7 Nov 2014 #24

Not if they made a deal (profit) with the GOP. You just said so yourself. Rex Nov 2014 #26

yes, but that can happen in any case JI7 Nov 2014 #28

Then we should just stick with two parties. Rex Nov 2014 #29

we did, even in 2000 the dem and rep were the major parties JI7 Nov 2014 #35

But he could have, so you are putting your faith in it never happening again. Rex Nov 2014 #36

you don't need a third party for it to happen again JI7 Nov 2014 #42

Well serious enough to throw an election, so I guess your definition of serious Rex Nov 2014 #45

yes, just as others ran candidates, but they never won much JI7 Nov 2014 #52

A third party was the Green party, so now what? Rex Nov 2014 #55

screwing was done by one person who ALREADY COULD do what they did JI7 Nov 2014 #57

No he needed a big party to get the numbers to screw over the system. Rex Nov 2014 #60

green party wasn't a big party JI7 Nov 2014 #62

Um big enough to throw the presidental election or did you forget? Rex Nov 2014 #63

that would have been done if Nader ran as an independent JI7 Nov 2014 #65

Which would have been another party, gee a fourth party. Rex Nov 2014 #66

and we STILL have these parties , do you think there are no other parties JI7 Nov 2014 #68

Yet one had the power to throw an election in 2000, so we are back to you Rex Nov 2014 #71

it wasn't the party, it was Nader himself, it wouldn't have happened JI7 Nov 2014 #94

Sure it would have been, a third party or fourth party Rex Nov 2014 #111

There were third parties when Clinton and Obama JI7 Nov 2014 #138

Perot. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #131

New York hasn't had a Democratic mayor in over twenty years DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #110

The SC stole that election, Nader was a legal candidate running for office in a Democracy sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #41

Evidently said poster doesn't realize the Green party is a viable party. Rex Nov 2014 #51

Yes, the Green Party is a viable party and Nader had nothing to do with the theft of the sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #86

Yeah it was fun twisting that ones own words against him. Rex Nov 2014 #88

Did he run in '96 so that Clinton would lose? JHB Nov 2014 #106

That is a certain narrative shared by a tiny clique here. Rex Nov 2014 #121

Did he start a party with a clear platform? treestar Nov 2014 #102

Yes yes your tiny cliques narrative is full of holes as I showed above. Rex Nov 2014 #113

I have my own party. Cleita Nov 2014 #38

I dunno. What's your message? lol KMOD Nov 2014 #44

My party is the one of common cause. Cleita Nov 2014 #48

You should call it ..... The Commoneers! I might be on board with this. KMOD Nov 2014 #53

Not too many will join. Trust me. n/t Cleita Nov 2014 #61

You got it treestar Nov 2014 #98

Those in favour ... NanceGreggs Nov 2014 #4

Yeah shenmue Nov 2014 #32

But you CAN'T talk to them ... NanceGreggs Nov 2014 #77

Well, frankly, to be honest with you, I'm tired of hearing all the 3rd-way talk. Major Hogwash Nov 2014 #50

Be careful. NanceGreggs Nov 2014 #67

NO SEX THREADS!!! Odin2005 Nov 2014 #85

... NanceGreggs Nov 2014 #87

About four Thanksgivings ago, I argued with a guest at the table who insisted that Cleita Nov 2014 #58

I love the term "affable dummy". NanceGreggs Nov 2014 #74

This time I don't think they can dump it on President Obama as much as they might try. Cleita Nov 2014 #78

The M$M will hammer home whatever message their paymasters wish. Rex Nov 2014 #80

Yeah, but ... NanceGreggs Nov 2014 #81

They have put all of their eggs in one basket. Major Hogwash Nov 2014 #83

The Republicans will aggressively paint Obama as the Obstructionist over the next 2 years... stillwaiting Nov 2014 #109

Yeah, but they're all into the French Revolution meme. Their heads will be lost later in the purge. freshwest Nov 2014 #95

Rubbish. GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #96

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why are you in a party with that type of leadership ? is it so you can continue to post on DU ? JI7 Nov 2014 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Nov 2014 #12

i'm all for banning those who don't support the party from this website JI7 Nov 2014 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Nov 2014 #16

it's the rules made by admin JI7 Nov 2014 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Nov 2014 #18

Nothing in the rules say we have to support right wing corporatists AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #43

you could describe the admin that way JI7 Nov 2014 #56

The Obama admin is riddled with corporatists AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #59

again, this is why i can't take you seriously JI7 Nov 2014 #64

Show me where in the rules AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #69

hahah, i just said it's hard to take you seriously JI7 Nov 2014 #73

And your take on it AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #75

You're really gung-ho to get rid of people here aren't ya? Union Scribe Nov 2014 #72

i can't get rid anyone. i don't even serve on the jury JI7 Nov 2014 #76

I think the TOS should be followed as well. It wasn't during this last election cycle. nt MADem Nov 2014 #108

'Purge' is the new Third Way talking point, they have always had talking points to purge the Left sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #136

No, no, we must be Stalinists Union Scribe Nov 2014 #19

Sell the idea. KMOD Nov 2014 #30

The purges Jamaal510 Nov 2014 #22

"it's not exactly a winning strategy" Union Scribe Nov 2014 #23

It's a sad fact, moderate and conservative dems are lazy or apathetic Rex Nov 2014 #25

Uh, Republicans just won. Marr Nov 2014 #46

You're Kidding, Right? ProfessorGAC Nov 2014 #122

If only the GOP were purging instead of just rebranding. n/t Orsino Nov 2014 #119

This has the makings of a great thread with the hyperbolic comparison to the Stalin purges neverforget Nov 2014 #27

Comrade Godwin's uncle Boris's law? Rex Nov 2014 #33

Lol! Yeah something like that! neverforget Nov 2014 #34

It's not a comparison, that's what tyrants do treestar Nov 2014 #105

Third Way = Wall Street infiltration of the party woo me with science Nov 2014 #31

^^^ this ^^^ malokvale77 Nov 2014 #139

LOL. We ask for a turn for the first time mmonk Nov 2014 #39

It's not a purge, it's a change of management. Marr Nov 2014 #40

Then sell your message. Win them over. That's how you do it. KMOD Nov 2014 #47

Yeah, no kidding. And that's not a "purge". /nt Marr Nov 2014 #49

Selling a message and winning people over is the job description of the party leadership. Orsino Nov 2014 #118

For the last six years AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #54

The election shows that we have a big surplus of people. We won't miss a few... right? n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #70

Right! So purge them the hell out. ;) KMOD Nov 2014 #79

you do not like Purges DonCoquixote Nov 2014 #82

Oh God, now we Leftists are getting compared to STALIN??? Odin2005 Nov 2014 #84

OMG, no one is saying that KMOD Nov 2014 #89

They knew Hitler would be too obvious. Rex Nov 2014 #90

I could have chose Saddam's or Assad's Ba'ath party. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #114

Well it was a great try anyways! Rex Nov 2014 #115

I should have cited Mao DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #117

Yet nobody is calling for mass executions, only you infer that. Rex Nov 2014 #120

It's hyperbole DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #127

I think Genghis Khan has them all beat hands down. Rex Nov 2014 #129

Just convinces me there is nothing new under the sun. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #134

Poor things treestar Nov 2014 #104

Aw you mad bro!? Rex Nov 2014 #112

LOL! Odin2005 Nov 2014 #137

Now you've gone and done it! You know what's coming next because you said Stalin: freshwest Nov 2014 #91

Yeah man BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #92

Things also exactly the same: BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #93

Now that made me laugh malokvale77 Nov 2014 #140

You can call yourself what you want BUT LiberalElite Nov 2014 #101

Like the castle in its corner in a medieval game seveneyes Nov 2014 #103

Know who else tried to frighten people with Stalin's name? Hitler. Orsino Nov 2014 #116

Can I cite Mao?/NT DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #123

Not to any better effect, I believe. n/t Orsino Nov 2014 #126

+1 eom RiverLover Nov 2014 #135

You know who else liked to invoke Godwin's Law? Capt. Obvious Nov 2014 #124

The "purge" mentality never works Peacetrain Nov 2014 #128

You didn't pipe up as liberals being purged, mocked, and cut off at the knees TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #143