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jeff47

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64. Your argument has the massive hole

Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:18 PM

Nov 2014

Which Democrat actually ran on expanding LGBT rights and protections?

So Millennials were supposed to go out and vote for Democrats who said nothing about this subject, or actively opposed it.

Their actions allow an unjust situation to remain in place.

Except that no Democrat was talking about changing that situation. Given that Democrats have just let the courts advance LGBT rights, why would we believe that politicians who don't talk about this subject would do anything about this subject?

The States with the highest minimum wages are run by Democrats. Are they blind to this, these young voters in States with the Federal rate?

No Democrats in those states ran on raising the minimum wage. In fact, they ran away from it.

The States with good access to abortion and other reproductive choices are Democratic States. How come those youth who care about choice don't notice that and act accordingly?

No Democrats in those states ran on expanding abortion access. In fact, they ran away from it.

But the youth don't notice this, even as their own Red State locks them up for a dime bag?

No Democrats in those states ran on cutting back on the war on drugs. In fact, they ran away from it.

See the pattern yet?

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For Those Complaining about the Baby Boomer Vote: [View all] MineralMan Nov 2014 OP

I'm in my early fifties, and I've voted in every election except the last midterm (2012) MANative Nov 2014 #1

It bothers me, too. MineralMan Nov 2014 #2

Totally get you. MANative Nov 2014 #4

Please stop the guilt yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #16

Thank you. Your kind words mean a lot. MANative Nov 2014 #23

My pleasure! We are all in this crazy World together! yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #29

+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #71

I'm a Baby Boomer, too, and I always vote. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2014 #3

Some people claim that it doesn't matter who wins. MineralMan Nov 2014 #7

How do you know ones that didn't vote are the ones complaining? JonLP24 Nov 2014 #5

You know, I spend the two months before every election MineralMan Nov 2014 #8

Lack of media hype and press JonLP24 Nov 2014 #10

The election happens. Everyone knows there's an election. MineralMan Nov 2014 #11

It is not the same JonLP24 Nov 2014 #12

Ennui. Boredom. Lack of Forethought. MineralMan Nov 2014 #13

I didn't say they were valid. JonLP24 Nov 2014 #15

As I said in a related thread, there's no good reason to not vote. Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2014 #6

Exactly. If Millennials make up only 12% of the overall turnout, MineralMan Nov 2014 #9

So-and-so crossed the aisle again BarackTheVote Nov 2014 #55

A lot (not all) "dream" about some kind of "violent rebellion" somebody else will... Amonester Nov 2014 #14

There's not going to be any rebellion. MineralMan Nov 2014 #17

And a lot of them dreamers know that, so they waste hours of their time playing Amonester Nov 2014 #21

Vote for what? jeff47 Nov 2014 #18

Why is it always about "their" problems and never about Amonester Nov 2014 #19

By voting for what? jeff47 Nov 2014 #20

I'll give you that, while rejecting your false accusations all at once. Amonester Nov 2014 #22

You're confusing action with inaction. jeff47 Nov 2014 #24

They're confusing unrealistic dreams with reality. Amonester Nov 2014 #25

Not at all. Take a look at what the Republicans did. jeff47 Nov 2014 #67

So these youngest non-voters decided to leave the fight (for all that list) definitely Amonester Nov 2014 #89

What gains? jeff47 Nov 2014 #90

I was not referring to you in particular, nor to your State. Amonester Nov 2014 #91

If they actually support LGBT equality they would vote, taking a lesson from LGBT voters who Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #30

Your argument has the massive hole jeff47 Nov 2014 #64

You won't get an answer Scootaloo Nov 2014 #104

Nonsense. MineralMan Nov 2014 #36

We're talking about why they didn't turn out in 2014. jeff47 Nov 2014 #70

Also JonLP24 Nov 2014 #26

This is a very good graphic Kalidurga Nov 2014 #33

This is an aexcellent graphic. F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #102

Hard to take that time off from work, when every job sees you as disposable Scootaloo Nov 2014 #105

Perhaps these young adults should just quit waiting for their Skidmore Nov 2014 #66

Thanks for demonstrating my point so clearly. jeff47 Nov 2014 #77

+100 Scootaloo Nov 2014 #106

As a Millennial, THANK YOU! Odin2005 Nov 2014 #73

I agree BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #78

Voted in every Faux pas Nov 2014 #27

This baby boomer votes straight Democratic in every election and every primary. greatauntoftriplets Nov 2014 #28

That's funny... fredamae Nov 2014 #31

Boomers come in all political colors. MineralMan Nov 2014 #32

It's not the voters; it's the candidates Android3.14 Nov 2014 #34

You don't have leaders? Sure you do. MineralMan Nov 2014 #42

I'm not attacking you, MM Android3.14 Nov 2014 #46

That's three items. I don't like them either. MineralMan Nov 2014 #52

Again, you miss my point. Android3.14 Nov 2014 #72

No, it's the voters. Waiting For Everyman Nov 2014 #69

Really? You are going to hold them personally responsible? Android3.14 Nov 2014 #76

Yup, I'm done with being understanding of intentional stupidity. Waiting For Everyman Nov 2014 #79

And that, Luke, is why you fail Android3.14 Nov 2014 #96

Young people don't vote, never have, maybe never will. What is the big deal? A Simple Game Nov 2014 #35

If they don't vote, they can't complain, then. MineralMan Nov 2014 #38

Wait a minute, I never said I didn't vote nor did I say you shouldn't vote. A Simple Game Nov 2014 #68

12% turnout of people 30 and younger. Rex Nov 2014 #37

Not exactly. That demo made up 12% of the vote. MineralMan Nov 2014 #40

My mistake, I thought that was overall turnout. Rex Nov 2014 #43

Yes. I'll have to go look at turnout percentages. MineralMan Nov 2014 #47

exactly heaven05 Nov 2014 #39

Thank you for voting! MineralMan Nov 2014 #60

Boomers tend to believe the system is much the same as it was in 1961. GliderGuider Nov 2014 #41

Not this Boomer. MineralMan Nov 2014 #44

Try it this way: GliderGuider Nov 2014 #48

No, I'm not trying that, thanks. MineralMan Nov 2014 #53

The difference is that you are looking at the results obtained within the system GliderGuider Nov 2014 #57

The system exists. It's not going away. MineralMan Nov 2014 #58

Of course it's not going away. GliderGuider Nov 2014 #61

Silliness is what you're selling. I'm not in a giggling mood MineralMan Nov 2014 #63

Which came first, the chicken or the egg? nt BootinUp Nov 2014 #45

Neither - the corporations came first. nt GliderGuider Nov 2014 #50

So you refuse to pay taxes? If not, you do in fact participate in that system, you just refuse to Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #51

You will notice, I said "if I can avoid it" GliderGuider Nov 2014 #54

There's more to it than that also, the 18 - 29 year old vote Guaguacoa Nov 2014 #49

I'm beginning to think Gen X JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #56

As they get older, they get more experince, and tend to get wiser. Major Hogwash Nov 2014 #100

I'm a Pre-boomer and I always vote. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #59

I've never encountered a politician with whom I agree 100%. MineralMan Nov 2014 #62

Neither have I and I never expect to. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #65

I vote for outcomes. I have my own principles MineralMan Nov 2014 #81

Another Boomer who has voted straight Dem all my life. Waiting For Everyman Nov 2014 #74

Millenial gen begins in 1982 BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #75

It's not my age bracket. Someone reported the under 30 vote MineralMan Nov 2014 #80

I'm a baby boomer and ohheckyeah Nov 2014 #82

Of course you are excused. Recover and be well. MineralMan Nov 2014 #83

Thank you... ohheckyeah Nov 2014 #92

I understand. I had to recover from viral encephalitis MineralMan Nov 2014 #94

Wow - that's tough. ohheckyeah Nov 2014 #97

I recovered. I'm betting you do too. MineralMan Nov 2014 #98

That's some bad shit. Blue_In_AK Nov 2014 #101

I'm a boomer and I vote. Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2014 #84

We don't always prevail. But every election is a temporary MineralMan Nov 2014 #86

I'm a boomer and I always vote badtoworse Nov 2014 #85

And I thank you for that. Truly. MineralMan Nov 2014 #87

Chicken and egg, what comes first ? steve2470 Nov 2014 #88

For me, the inspiration has always come MineralMan Nov 2014 #93

sincerely, that's really great MM steve2470 Nov 2014 #95

Here's a clue ... GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #99

Vote for what the party offers you, and stay silent at all other times Scootaloo Nov 2014 #103