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20. While he has a point,

Fri Nov 7, 2014, 08:30 PM

Nov 2014

I think the "Disillusioned Young Voter(s)" didn't vote because they're just lazy, not disillusioned. Florida had a Medical Marijuana amendment change on the ballot and it failed, so that talking point of his is moot. He makes it sound like there's a cabal of DYVs sitting around making plans to sit out elections because Obama didn't send them a personal invite.

Disillusioned? Son, we're all disillusioned and that's why we vote.

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Open Letter to Democrats From a Disillusioned Young Voter [View all] eridani Nov 2014 OP

The money quote: Maedhros Nov 2014 #1

Don't Waste Vote On Hillary billhicks76 Nov 2014 #144

Hillary is essentially a Republican, Maedhros Nov 2014 #145

Hell Yes She Is billhicks76 Nov 2014 #149

Then don't vote? If that is the kind of maturity the new milinials have they deserve everything still_one Nov 2014 #2

I'm sorry, but you've got the wrong attitude. BillZBubb Nov 2014 #4

they aren't voting period. Forget about Democrats, they could have voted green or some other group still_one Nov 2014 #6

If there are that many, we should be listening. BillZBubb Nov 2014 #33

Still_One feels that they should be seen, and not heard Scootaloo Nov 2014 #46

They should be seen and heard by their votes. MH1 Nov 2014 #65

don't speak for me, only speak for yourself. That isn't what I said, but go ahead and distort still_one Nov 2014 #89

You speak for yourself loud and clear Scootaloo Nov 2014 #90

you are really full it, and yourself. You say I spread hate, maybe you need to get a grip on still_one Nov 2014 #91

Scootaloo is correct - TBF Nov 2014 #98

Me too. Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2014 #109

I read you the same way Scootaloo did. Fawke Em Nov 2014 #121

Perhaps you all have a comprehension problem. I will translate for you. I said if they don't like still_one Nov 2014 #125

Voting for an empty brand serves no purpose either whatchamacallit Nov 2014 #127

In most races.. sendero Nov 2014 #142

Thanks for giving an example of "old codgerism." Fawke Em Nov 2014 #147

Listen to what? Spazito Nov 2014 #48

Impressive.. SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #55

If you want it, you have to work for it, you, yourself instead of waiting for someone else... Spazito Nov 2014 #59

You talk about personal responsibility SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #62

I do expect adults to figure it out... Spazito Nov 2014 #63

What candidates campaigned on student loans, Spazito? Scootaloo Nov 2014 #72

So you think not voting will address the issue of student loans? Spazito Nov 2014 #77

I asked what candidates ran on the issue. Scootaloo Nov 2014 #94

Nice try... Spazito Nov 2014 #108

Why vote if you think you're being give one side or the other Fawke Em Nov 2014 #122

I understood what the poster was saying, I just don't accept the excuses... Spazito Nov 2014 #126

You are not an average person. You are obviously above average in SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #76

At the age we are talking about, between 20 and 30, I knew little about politics... Spazito Nov 2014 #80

The trouble we find is that voting doesn't elicit change, either Scootaloo Nov 2014 #67

There was change, some just refuse to see it because it wasn't EVERYTHING they... Spazito Nov 2014 #68

The youth that vote also have your disdain, as you make clear from your posts Scootaloo Nov 2014 #71

I respect anyone who votes including the 'youth' vote... Spazito Nov 2014 #88

No, I don't think Obamacare is good enough Scootaloo Nov 2014 #93

Truth be told those who don't vote don't matter because they made the conscious ... Spazito Nov 2014 #110

Totally disgusting workinclasszero Nov 2014 #61

Rush Holt, Zephyr Teachout and Donald Berwick were all advocating single-payer Chathamization Nov 2014 #103

They turned out in record numbers to vote for the guy that promised change. JoeyT Nov 2014 #83

They are whining, that is all they are doing... Spazito Nov 2014 #86

The person that is whining NobodyHere Nov 2014 #135

Nope, I didn't start an OP whining about poor me... Spazito Nov 2014 #136

Probably, but if they don't listen is not voting the answer, and if there is enough as you say the still_one Nov 2014 #52

They (or someone) voted to raise minimum wage and legalize marijuana... Blanks Nov 2014 #50

Actually, some left the part where you vote for someone to go to Washington BLANK.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #81

Exactly Vote Green then! treestar Nov 2014 #115

The WERE voting, back in 2008. So why are they not voting now?? sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #148

My view precisely. Berating and shaming customers doesnt make them want what you're selling more. canoeist52 Nov 2014 #15

"the democrats..."? ollie4 Nov 2014 #19

^^^ THIS ^^^ n/t susanwy Nov 2014 #139

Pretty much what my grandson 840high Nov 2014 #24

He. Opted, that is my point still_one Nov 2014 #26

your generation also had FDR and LBJ.. frylock Nov 2014 #7

On the money. pangaia Nov 2014 #22

fine.... ollie4 Nov 2014 #53

Yep.nt bravenak Nov 2014 #39

It's always someone else's fault for voters not voting. When does it become the fault Autumn Nov 2014 #17

"A vacuum is waiting to be filled " BillZBubb Nov 2014 #36

I grew up during that generation as well, and you're just romanticizing your memories Glitterati Nov 2014 #18

Here's the thing, in 1970, less than 60% of eligible citizens bothered to register to vote mountain grammy Nov 2014 #23

That's right; grow up. zanana1 Nov 2014 #25

I was in that bubble with you. Curmudgeoness Nov 2014 #34

at least had the opportunity to vote for mcgovern noiretextatique Nov 2014 #51

The Dems had no message while running from the president and his accomplishments think Nov 2014 #30

Tweet-sized still_one: Get off my lawn, you darned kids! nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #32

Well said. We need them badly and we need to win their votes. BillZBubb Nov 2014 #40

Should they get off our lawn too? Generic Brad Nov 2014 #58

Actually voter turnout in 2012 was only a half of one percent lower than in 1968. progressoid Nov 2014 #64

"We fought for labor, civil rights, and womens rights" JoeyT Nov 2014 #82

Not voting is a vote. If the Oligarchs give you two candidates that will either screw you, rhett o rick Nov 2014 #85

Silence=Consent nt Bohunk68 Nov 2014 #102

Don't disagree. You hit the dog enough times with a newpaper, he will soon "consent". rhett o rick Nov 2014 #120

A Party that doesn't listen to the voters, will lose. People can whine and blame and yell all sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #92

Thank you, sabrina 1. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #96

Your attitude Thespian2 Nov 2014 #99

The younger generation is very involved and informed. See OWS eg, and what did elected sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #107

Good post - gee it's always someone else's fault treestar Nov 2014 #113

maturity? Soylent Brice Nov 2014 #129

Many older people voted for Republicans malletgirl02 Nov 2014 #131

Yes...I'm sure they are the reason that the Rs won the mid-terms LeftInTX Nov 2014 #146

People don't vote because they know it doesn't matter the_sly_pig Nov 2014 #141

Well if you allow Republicans to win Egnever Nov 2014 #3

Wrong attitude. BillZBubb Nov 2014 #5

Well since obviously in some people's eyes there is no difference between republicans and Democrats still_one Nov 2014 #9

Democratic States have higher minimum wages, better marijuana laws, better access to reproductive Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #12

I'm with you tooeyeten Nov 2014 #45

True tooeyeten Nov 2014 #41

In Oregon we legalized cannabis and all of our Democrats won by large margins Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #8

Oregon also has vote-by-mail gratuitous Nov 2014 #13

So Does CO, w/o Marijuana Millenials No Vote otohara Nov 2014 #105

Oregon has the best voting system, ever RobertEarl Nov 2014 #14

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^n/t truedelphi Nov 2014 #57

Yep. You can do awesome things when you have a liberal population Recursion Nov 2014 #78

They will learn nothing. 99Forever Nov 2014 #10

[Republicans] "communicate that message in a confident way." Martin Eden Nov 2014 #11

Yes, I noticed that, too. Quite on the nose. Tone & style matter. Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #43

Well they will soon see or miss what they have.. Historic NY Nov 2014 #16

While he has a point, secondvariety Nov 2014 #20

Any person who sings in the shower, defacto7 Nov 2014 #21

You know BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #27

Either participate in the democratic process or STFU no excuse for not voting. None. YOHABLO Nov 2014 #28

The letter writer invokes Warren and student loans and says young people had nothing to vote for BeyondGeography Nov 2014 #29

I know.. and the Environment is NOTHING, too.. The rest of us have to carry that burden while they Cha Nov 2014 #35

Inhofe replaces Boxer as head of Environment and Public Works BeyondGeography Nov 2014 #44

Pesky details like Planet Earth.. the "youth who didn't vote" did Not even think of. Cha Nov 2014 #49

It sounds a little like whining to me. TiredOfNo Nov 2014 #31

I love you, TON! Thank you! Cha Nov 2014 #37

So their opinion is irrelevant but your vote was meaningless? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #42

I'm a young voter who voted in this election minivan2 Nov 2014 #38

The Democrats did not address student loan debt randr Nov 2014 #116

Tell your friends ----- cprise Nov 2014 #130

I always vote. bravenak Nov 2014 #47

Quid pro quo Plucketeer Nov 2014 #54

K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2014 #56

We Democrats didn't take anyone for granted... mtngirl47 Nov 2014 #60

I voted for the first time in 1976. kiva Nov 2014 #66

"Ask not what your country can do for you . . . ." ucrdem Nov 2014 #69

That's a pretty speech but the reality is that it was easy for the rich boy JFK to say something craigmatic Nov 2014 #73

JFK: �To those whom much is given, much is expected.� ucrdem Nov 2014 #74

Whatever happened to college sit-down strikes and marches? ErikJ Nov 2014 #70

The perception that they didn't really accomplish much Recursion Nov 2014 #79

Elizabeth Warren stumped for a lot of these people that millenials refused to vote for. DemocraticWing Nov 2014 #75

We can go around and around pointing fingers Kalidurga Nov 2014 #84

"Simply banking on being the lesser evil and having that be enough won�t cut it any longer." ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #87

With you all the way� but you better understand exactly what the Republicans want before you vote world wide wally Nov 2014 #95

Obama hit the nail on the head, but refuses to do anything but talk Android3.14 Nov 2014 #97

I kick and rec this not because I think people were smart to stay home and not vote Dem. stillwaiting Nov 2014 #100

IMO, this OP is light weight mum bo jumbo, describing the terrible political moves as admirable ladjf Nov 2014 #101

A Failure in Communication turbinetree Nov 2014 #104

Repeating "people should" and expecting results is magical thinking bread_and_roses Nov 2014 #106

OCCUPY turbinetree Nov 2014 #119

er ... not quite sure what you are going on about bread_and_roses Nov 2014 #128

K&R blackspade Nov 2014 #111

As usual, somebody else has to do it for them treestar Nov 2014 #112

Open response back to a Disillusioned Young Voter randr Nov 2014 #114

The author of that letter is the ideal voter for the Republicans.... dmosh42 Nov 2014 #117

I agree with MOSt of what you said fadedrose Nov 2014 #118

What a great idea, let's see where not voting gets us ... annominous Nov 2014 #123

welcome to our world, youngster! oldandhappy Nov 2014 #124

I'm kind of impressed this young voter Shiraz Nov 2014 #132

100,000 minority kids turn 18(voting age)every month! and republicans know it! jonjensen Nov 2014 #133

"Healthy families" - that is a NO-Brainer yet they didn't even think of it to defend the ACA. jillan Nov 2014 #134

Populism works. You can't have a middle class and eat it too. whereisjustice Nov 2014 #137

Youth is wasted on the Young susanwy Nov 2014 #138

Hear, hear! Little Star Nov 2014 #140

This bulletin board has been coopted and is no longer useful erronis Nov 2014 #143