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DeSwiss

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33. That was certainly a part of the reason.

Sat Nov 8, 2014, 12:11 AM

Nov 2014

But remember, the people who gained office did so by a minority of eligible voting age people. When any society has more than 1/2 of its potential voters disenfranchising themselves, it is because they do not believe that the political system will ever work for them. Ever.

Unfortunately, they're right. This one never will, because it can't afford to. There has never been, nor will there ever be a democratic-capitalist state that can survive with their diametrical ethos in-tact. They are anathema to each other.

- And now that we've clearly lost control of the Wall Street capitalists (as if we ever did), they are in the process of consuming what is left of us. If we let them.

Because it's what they do.

K&R

''Let your life be a friction to stop the machine.'' ~ Henry David Thoreau

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Please understand that this is why we lost. [View all] SomethingFishy Nov 2014 OP

Yeah run in KY a coal state with folks who love their guns on a platform against guns and coal. That still_one Nov 2014 #1

Oh and this worked so much better.. SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #3

You might be surprised. brush Nov 2014 #5

No I won't still_one Nov 2014 #12

No you won't what? nt brush Nov 2014 #19

How would you prefer to lose? As a Democrat or a Republican? Barack_America Nov 2014 #14

Obviously you do not agree with Howard dean's 50 state strategy still_one Nov 2014 #15

Dean encouraged Democrats to run as Republicans? Barack_America Nov 2014 #18

Yes, Dean recruited conservative Democrats for conservative areas Recursion Nov 2014 #41

It is clear most people do not understand the brilliance of Howard Dean. greatlaurel Nov 2014 #54

Politics is the art of winning, not an ideology 100% 0f the time QuestionAlways Nov 2014 #97

good memory NewJeffCT Nov 2014 #107

A real Democrat, not a dino. nt brush Nov 2014 #20

amen! green917 Nov 2014 #100

You are confused....... Logical Nov 2014 #11

FYI... ReRe Nov 2014 #37

Contrary to popular belief not EVERYONE there is a coal miner. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #49

Yabut, 90% of them have relatives who are!! Major Hogwash Nov 2014 #89

Some of these people know coal is the past. Dems need to offer them a future.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #94

How about strengthening unions and making a safer and cleaner working and living environment? adirondacker Nov 2014 #52

"Better to live on your feet, than die on your knees" villager Nov 2014 #57

I want to bring someone to your attention DAngelo136 Nov 2014 #71

Agreed... elzenmahn Nov 2014 #73

Thanks for the link - n/t mazzarro Nov 2014 #77

Brava! Brava! Brava! nt brush Nov 2014 #2

I would never vote for a candidate holding a gun in their ad WestCoastLib Nov 2014 #4

Well I'd have voted for her... just because her opponent was McConnell SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #7

Well gee it is so easy for people like us in a blue state to expect our values to resonate in a red still_one Nov 2014 #16

What if she was an Olympic gold-medal biathlete? Recursion Nov 2014 #42

Really? NickB79 Nov 2014 #79

When I saw that commercial I knew Grimes was a lost cause Hokie Nov 2014 #6

I don't like to use Spineless Democrat, but this one is. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #8

She was an idiot for not admitting she voted for Obama. nt Logical Nov 2014 #9

Maybe she didn't. 840high Nov 2014 #24

winner BrotherIvan Nov 2014 #110

Sarah Palin ran for the Democrats? Barack_America Nov 2014 #10

pandering to the white racists did her no good at all did it nt msongs Nov 2014 #13

No, but it works for Manchin and Rockefeller next door Recursion Nov 2014 #43

That ad was great (in a way) and helped bring the polls within 3 or 4 points. aikoaiko Nov 2014 #17

When I saw the video and did not know who it was I thought she was a GOP idiot...... Logical Nov 2014 #21

GOP idiots are exactly who motivated people to get to the polls this cycle Recursion Nov 2014 #44

If people don't vote for candidates based on issues then... mazzarro Nov 2014 #86

Because people vote for ballot measures based on issues Recursion Nov 2014 #87

When I saw that ad, I saw a Democrat from a rural state. aikoaiko Nov 2014 #62

Actually I have no issue with the guns..... Logical Nov 2014 #63

I agree, that ad was superb! Major Hogwash Nov 2014 #88

What. A. Fucking. Phony. nt MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 #22

rofl. *no comment* m-lekktor Nov 2014 #23

What Good Would She be Anyway? jalan48 Nov 2014 #25

Own your liberal-ness leftwritelady Nov 2014 #26

This! Own your values and speak with conviction! LuckyLib Nov 2014 #27

It is my distinct honor to welcome you to Democratic Underground. Efilroft Sul Nov 2014 #30

When you get enough posts you should make this SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #32

Thank you, leftwritelady! Welcome to DU~ Cha Nov 2014 #35

Welcome to DU! Cali_Democrat Nov 2014 #55

Terrific first post! Rhiannon12866 Nov 2014 #58

YES. sibelian Nov 2014 #60

Welcome, and well said! Martin Eden Nov 2014 #65

Excellent post. Welcome to DU! laundry_queen Nov 2014 #67

welcome to du. and, I agree with the suggestion that, as soon as your post count niyad Nov 2014 #69

+1 You nailed it. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #74

Yeah, you said it! A warm welcome to DU, btw. AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #76

excellent points northoftheborder Nov 2014 #82

Another BIG welcome!! RiverLover Nov 2014 #105

good gawd, our Sarah Palin... LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #28

It's Kentucky, not like the state matters. dilby Nov 2014 #29

I know she had her reasons, and it might have seemed like a good idea if she'd won, but . . . ucrdem Nov 2014 #31

That was certainly a part of the reason. DeSwiss Nov 2014 #33

I know... SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #39

That's it Doctor_J Nov 2014 #75

We lost because 60% of the electorate dislikes Obama. DemocraticWing Nov 2014 #34

Really? Then maybe you can explain how in the states where Obama actually campaigned SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #38

This. DemocraticWing Nov 2014 #40

Ok you win. SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #50

Because he campaigned in liberal states where people like him Recursion Nov 2014 #45

Touche' SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #48

Interestingly, I just did an OP on this Recursion Nov 2014 #51

They vote for the kind of world they want to live in n/t eridani Nov 2014 #81

Tell that to Anthony Brown in Maryland BlueEye Nov 2014 #103

I thought she ran a SmittynMo Nov 2014 #36

Is music the universal language? aspirant Nov 2014 #68

She was an actress.. Ashley Judd.. sister of Country Singer Wynonna.. SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #84

The best thing that can happen is Jim Beard Nov 2014 #46

The President loves frickin-fracking. That whick enriches the 1% and poisons the water for rhett o rick Nov 2014 #47

Dukakis was widely mocked by his opponents for what they characterized as martial posturing whereisjustice Nov 2014 #53

You'd think we'd learn... SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #56

or the one MFM008 Nov 2014 #92

�Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for jillan Nov 2014 #59

The coal industry provides a lot of jobs in Kentucky. NaturalHigh Nov 2014 #61

That's why transition to clean energy needs to include new jobs for coal states Martin Eden Nov 2014 #66

any politician heaven05 Nov 2014 #64

Been trying to get this message across for years. 99Forever Nov 2014 #70

Wow FiveGoodMen Nov 2014 #72

"Democrats moving to the middle is a double disaster that alienates Zorra Nov 2014 #78

^This.^ blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #102

"And if you are in it for the money, take a hike." DC would be a ghost town. nt NorthCarolina Nov 2014 #80

Yeah, because Gun Control candidates do so well in the Rural areas. Savannahmann Nov 2014 #83

Same thing going on here in Minnesota NickB79 Nov 2014 #96

Even the rural areas and counties of Connecticut had that problem. NutmegYankee Nov 2014 #113

I thought we lost because we didn't praise bank fraud and NSA spying enough on DU eom whereisjustice Nov 2014 #85

Oh God no, not a Southern Dem who also enjoys shooting guns! NickB79 Nov 2014 #90

Yeah we did so well with Clinton.. SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #93

Would you have preferred any of the GOP candidates he ran against? NickB79 Nov 2014 #95

I definitely agree. Maineman Nov 2014 #91

That didn't help, but I think it has a lot more to do with this... EEO Nov 2014 #98

Grimes came off as the fall guy for McConnell. Somebody had to be the LOSER. blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #99

Fox news people. BlueJac Nov 2014 #101

if you don't stand up for what you believe....nobody will believe you ollie4 Nov 2014 #104

Inquiring minds want to know.... kentuck Nov 2014 #106

Brilliant swilton Nov 2014 #108

Anyone who said Grimes ran a good campaign lost any credibility with that argument after the outcome Drunken Irishman Nov 2014 #109

i dunno that honesty iamthebandfanman Nov 2014 #111

YES I VOTED FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA krobar659 Nov 2014 #112