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rhett o rick

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46. Yes we have gotten some little progress in the areas of social issues,
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 10:38 AM
Nov 2014

but my concern is that while we are being placated on one hand with small gains, on the other hand the Oligarchs are stealing all our resources as fast as they can. The middle class is like the Titanic going down. It's cool if we can partake of a reefer and see same sex marriages, but the ship is going to sink. The Oligarchs are not stupid. Greedy but not stupid. And, while they like Republicans best, they also like Conservative Democrats. Oligarchy knows no Party.

I too vote for Democrats, but that's not good enough. Some Democrats betrayed us when George Bush the Dim-Son wanted to go to war. They participated in a decision that not only saw the deaths of many, the destruction of Iraq, but also deliver a fatal blow to our economy and democracy. Some democrats today side with the Oligarchs and want to allow fricking-fracking to destroy our ground water. And don't forget NAFTA, WTO, and now the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

Voting for Democrats isn't good enough to save us. We have to decide now that we aren't going to allow H. Clinton-Sachs to be our president. If you didn't like the turnout last Tuesday, wait until you have Oligarch Thing 1 vs. Oligarch Thing 2 as our choices.

The middle class frog is in the pot with the temperature increasing. Will our choices in 2016 be Jeb Bush the "I'm the 'not quite so stupid'" son, who wants to turn the temperature to high, or H. Clinton-Sachs who promises only to turn the temperature up to medium?
We must decide now that we are not going to settle for boiling on medium. We must find someone that will help us get out of the pot. Then the American people might pay attention.

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Yes, I did Rec this thread. MineralMan Nov 2014 #1
I'm with you on this one. Warpy Nov 2014 #7
I just don't see a path to get there, MineralMan Nov 2014 #8
I do the same thing, MineralMan! calimary Nov 2014 #33
Thanks. I'm always glad to see your threads. MineralMan Nov 2014 #34
I believe in your threads, too, MinMan. KnR Hekate Nov 2014 #42
For Democratic Socialism to work I think it upaloopa Nov 2014 #2
I truly believe that it is impossible in the U.S. MineralMan Nov 2014 #3
I'm 68. If the repubs don't fuck with my pension upaloopa Nov 2014 #6
They won't change your pension... Stads... Nov 2014 #11
I wish I could be so sanguine about it. annabanana Nov 2014 #17
Not so fast: Raine1967 Nov 2014 #28
Pensions have been lost completely, too. MineralMan Nov 2014 #51
Hell, I'll settle down and shut up for Social Democracy, never mind the Socialism. But KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #4
Exactly. MineralMan Nov 2014 #5
FDR was the only president to get Americans to accept socialism AZ Progressive Nov 2014 #9
Yes, I know. I said so in the first paragraph of my post. MineralMan Nov 2014 #10
I know, I just wanted to say that anyway. AZ Progressive Nov 2014 #22
OK, cool! MineralMan Nov 2014 #23
Dems will be ok and back in power which is much better for America Iliyah Nov 2014 #12
Yes, perhaps. They could have won this year, too. MineralMan Nov 2014 #13
Agree Totally colsohlibgal Nov 2014 #14
GOPers don't want most Americans educated nor have good health Iliyah Nov 2014 #20
no, you want to have expectations limber enough that you can lower them to whatever you're handed, MisterP Nov 2014 #15
You are incorrect. MineralMan Nov 2014 #16
Naw BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #41
I totally agree. Thank you for writing this OP... cry baby Nov 2014 #18
Thanks! You may use it however you wish. MineralMan Nov 2014 #19
Thank you, sir. nt cry baby Nov 2014 #21
I Agree with Most of It Leith Nov 2014 #24
A capitalist economic system favoring the rich has to be balanced by a socialist system ErikJ Nov 2014 #25
you were just rooting for the 3rd way the other day Phlem Nov 2014 #26
No, actually I wasn't. MineralMan Nov 2014 #32
I prefer a Social Democracy ... GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #27
+1 Rex Nov 2014 #29
Actually, cionservatives just love socialism eridani Nov 2014 #30
Interesting stuff. Thanks! ~nt RiverLover Nov 2014 #36
I want that too... ReRe Nov 2014 #31
This country has almost always tempered capitalism with socialism. Sparkly Nov 2014 #35
I agree completely. DemocraticWing Nov 2014 #37
No change will ever come UglyGreed Nov 2014 #38
I always knew you were a firebrand. rug Nov 2014 #39
Me LAST, not Me FIRST FrodosPet Nov 2014 #40
Good post MineralMan airplaneman Nov 2014 #43
You express my position completely. Thanks. freshwest Nov 2014 #44
Democratic Socialism is the only thing that will save this country now IdiocracyTheNewNorm Nov 2014 #45
Yes we have gotten some little progress in the areas of social issues, rhett o rick Nov 2014 #46
I agree but the the word "Socialist" will doom it to failure due to ignorant masses. glinda Nov 2014 #47
Yes, of course. Lots of things would doom it in the U.S., I'm afraid. MineralMan Nov 2014 #48
True but "Socialist" much more so. glinda Nov 2014 #49
Well, yes. Which is why Bernie Sanders won't win in any General Election MineralMan Nov 2014 #50
we will see glinda Nov 2014 #62
Then take the word back. Half-Century Man Nov 2014 #54
Sounds great Half-Century Man Nov 2014 #52
So do I. SamKnause Nov 2014 #53
Do you see Populism and Socialism as compatible or competitive? demwing Nov 2014 #55
Populism isn't a political philosphy. MineralMan Nov 2014 #59
Most Socialists in the US vote for Democrats too. Starry Messenger Nov 2014 #56
Most socialists oppose physical/corporal punishment of children, but you don't CreekDog Nov 2014 #57
How strange. I have never used MineralMan Nov 2014 #60
Don't play games. I posted against corporal punishment and you littered the thread CreekDog Nov 2014 #61
I'm a socialist and i vote Democratic. I vote Democratic because Democratic ideals are closer to Louisiana1976 Nov 2014 #58
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