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99Forever

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52. I have to say that you are indeed on to something.

Reply to RadiationTherapy (Original post)

Sat Nov 8, 2014, 10:56 AM

Nov 2014

When I said as much to one of the noted older regulars on this board, that even at "local" level within the party structure, the engrained resistance to "newcomers" coming onto their "turf" is strong. The same old people doing the same old things is what got the results last Tuesday, but it's a freakin' lesson they steadfastly REFUSE to learn.

There's a number of us on this board that have been trying for years to warn "the serious people" that failure to aggressively FIGHT for the needs of the MANY instead of ALWAYS capitulating to the the desires of the already rich few, was a recipe for losing. Judging from the the crap I am seeing posted since the latest drubbing, the dumbasses haven't lost enough quite yet.

And I will say, yet again, for the umpteenth time, I will never again hold my nose and vote for the candidate that merely sucks less. BTW, I happen to be a "Boomer," so perhaps not all of us "old folks" quite fit your prejudice.

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I'm not voting for Hillary because she is too old and out of touch and it has to stop. [View all] RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 OP

Ageist claptrap... hlthe2b Nov 2014 #1

Reminds me of "Don't Trust Anyone Over Thirty!" MADem Nov 2014 #32

You took the words right off my keyboard! WhiteTara Nov 2014 #72

Yep--gotta get moving on that agenda, because time marches on! MADem Nov 2014 #86

To what shall I compare this life of ours? WhiteTara Nov 2014 #98

+1,000 !!!! nt MADem Nov 2014 #119

That was my initial reaction. Skidmore Nov 2014 #131

Oh, gods, how I love that movie. okasha Nov 2014 #145

yep nt steve2470 Nov 2014 #137

Is Bernie Sanders too old? mmonk Nov 2014 #2

For president, yes. But I am considering this standard for all of my votes. RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #4

I prefer to base my judgements of people onecaliberal Nov 2014 #126

It isn't very different in its dynamic. It is a matter of the unifying experiences which feed one's RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #130

I Understand. onecaliberal Nov 2014 #133

I will be sure to be dynamic in my thinking and look for the bigger pictures. RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #134

You bet. onecaliberal Nov 2014 #139

Too unelectable maced666 Nov 2014 #42

That is the problem, Bernie espouses the beliefs and policies that most of us want, but we Dustlawyer Nov 2014 #49

He's unelectable, why? onecaliberal Nov 2014 #127

I don't believe he is unelectable, just repeating the crap I have seen from the Third Way crowd Dustlawyer Nov 2014 #141

Agree 100% onecaliberal Nov 2014 #143

Who do you like now? hrmjustin Nov 2014 #3

For president? I do not know. RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #5

Well Warren and Sanders are over 60 so you seem to be limiting yourself. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #6

Yes. I am adding another limiting factor to my voting assessment. RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #8

Then you have shot your stand "too old" right in the foot, and Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #106

I will vote MFM008 Nov 2014 #7

Would you name a few of the under 55 politicians that suit your preference. nt ladjf Nov 2014 #9

No, I can't. Can you? RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #11

No I can't. Your OP led me to believe that you were supporting candidates under the age of 55. nt ladjf Nov 2014 #12

I intend to, yes. RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #13

And what if there aren't any? MoonRiver Nov 2014 #41

Then I will be curious as to why that is RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #44

Nobody who is in your required age range is running. MoonRiver Nov 2014 #50

Why would that be? RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #54

Maybe they have not had the time to establish name recognition, donors, a solid base of support etc. MoonRiver Nov 2014 #55

I think that very well may be the case. RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #59

And now any candidate that runs nationally must amass tremendous amounts of cash. It's disgusting MoonRiver Nov 2014 #77

And, if we did want to explore this through an inter-generational lens, which generation RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #80

I think that is the problem Man from Pickens Nov 2014 #96

Boomers had 3 chances and 24 years. GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #10

Yeah, you guys are the future, don't let us jerk you around. bemildred Nov 2014 #14

O'Malley/Castro TBF Nov 2014 #15

Thanks for these leads. RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #16

O'Malley blew his chance on Tuesday brooklynite Nov 2014 #36

Nope - Third Way Dems lost Tues TBF Nov 2014 #113

Um, O'Malley is Third Way? brooklynite Nov 2014 #114

O'Malley is more left than that - TBF Nov 2014 #117

Maybe O'Malley is fourth way. He brought racist police sweeps to Baltimore as mayor, Vattel Nov 2014 #148

You know there's a minimum age requirement LiberalElite Nov 2014 #17

Yes. RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #22

I would have supported Pete Seeger at 80 if he were a viable candidate Tom Rinaldo Nov 2014 #18

Well, at some point it becomes a matter of relativity. RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #23

Generalities serve some useful purpose Tom Rinaldo Nov 2014 #97

Thanks for your excellent reply. You have given me things to think about here. RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #122

Cool story. NaturalHigh Nov 2014 #19

It's a (not so) great excuse for staying home, certainly. MADem Nov 2014 #40

Just to be clear, I do not stay home during elections. RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #57

You do know that aging is not an optional exercise? MADem Nov 2014 #69

I am 40. I welcome the advice and support of everyone both personally and politically RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #71

You'll be fifty in a blink of an eye, and before you know it, you'll be looking south from seventy MADem Nov 2014 #92

I am working on my master's thesis in communication RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #121

Pffftttt LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #20

I believed that for a long time, but, as I mention above RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #24

I won't vote for Hillary because she's a sociopath with no values. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #21

i won't be a hard liner, RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #26

Generation is irrelevant to me. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #28

Jerry Brown as Governor allowed police in Oakland and Los Angeles to bash in the KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #29

He "allowed" it did he? True Blue Door Nov 2014 #46

He certainly maintained absolute radio silence about it while it was going on. (Thinking KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #51

Politicians can't win with protesters. That's politics 101. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #61

I get your point, I really do. But contrast Brown's total silence with the KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #68

Hillary is an Iraq War accomplice and torture apologist. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #79

Nah, I'm not complimenting Hillary by saying she's 'competent.' Hannibal Lecter was KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #90

Well, just to narrow the focus, I disagree that she's competent as a political leader. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #94

Yeah, I agree with you about her moral depravity. Back in October 2002, as KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #99

I watched the lies evolve on TV, so I was never deceived. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #107

Truth that! I think I may hear the voice of John Brown echoing in your words. Bravo! - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #110

"Ageism is the last acceptable prejudice in America..." demwing Nov 2014 #25

I don't say ageism isn't a prejudice, it is. RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #27

He WAS snarking. MADem Nov 2014 #43

I spent my 20's as part of a generation that was defined not by when we were born but by when Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #30

+1 mahina Nov 2014 #37

As I stated above, ageism is not a one-way street. RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #39

Respect is also a two way street. I offered you very specific ideas and you did not speak of them Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #45

Sorry, but I meant my comment about interpersonal relationships to be a response RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #56

Oh, I did not mean that it should define you in your precious mind. Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #66

I am comfortable with my comments here. And, since I appreciate irony, RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #73

You're getting at something else that's important here BeyondGeography Nov 2014 #31

Thank you for pointing that out. That is an important point that I was reaching for RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #33

Hillary Clinton's a special case - the "inevitability" of her nomination since 2005/2006 has indeed Midwestern Democrat Nov 2014 #81

I'd actually prefer someone even older than Hilary, say about 80... joeybee12 Nov 2014 #34

I hear McCain is thinking about running again Quackers Nov 2014 #100

Isn't he younger than Hilary??? joeybee12 Nov 2014 #112

Posted to read on laptop - Gen X cynics JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #35

I don't want one person... kentuck Nov 2014 #38

The young didn't vote, kiva Nov 2014 #47

lol Little Star Nov 2014 #53

I think you are on to something there. RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #60

The young didn't run either Generic Brad Nov 2014 #63

Exactly. I have waited and promoted these issues often, and I don't hear them RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #74

I hope you're not asssuming that all Boomers are like The Clintons, W., and Obama MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 #48

I don't think any of those people are Gen X RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #62

Oh #%^*, I meant Boomers MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 #65

Ah, ok. No, I don't see all boomers that way. RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #70

I have to say that you are indeed on to something. 99Forever Nov 2014 #52

I tried to distinguish my political prejudice from my personal ones RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #64

I didn't say it well... 99Forever Nov 2014 #75

Stop The Aging Process NOW otohara Nov 2014 #58

It's not personal, it's political. RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #67

Thread winner!!!!!! MADem Nov 2014 #138

If she is the nominee, then what? liberal N proud Nov 2014 #76

Then there are the myriad other candidates and issues to vote for. RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #82

One of the problems with using age as a criterion, especially MineralMan Nov 2014 #78

Thank you for your comment. I will be sure to reflect on it in order to mitigate my prejudice. RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #84

Which issues get discussed during any election year depends on MineralMan Nov 2014 #88

That's fair. BlueStater Nov 2014 #108

I agree that both Hillary Clinton and Biden are older than typical MineralMan Nov 2014 #111

I understand the Hillary part. The rest is just dumb. HERVEPA Nov 2014 #83

Better hope that your faves are old enough to want to save S.S. and Medicare. WinkyDink Nov 2014 #85

The Hillary candidacy does present some problems. Calista241 Nov 2014 #87

Her age has nothing to do with it for me. bigwillq Nov 2014 #89

And then there's the tiny little matter of Iraq, for which she still KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #101

Here's an interesting chart showing the age of our Presidents MineralMan Nov 2014 #91

Thanks for this. Obviously I will have to refine my thinking on this as i learn more RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #132

As a Hillary supporter I'm not worried much about.. Little Star Nov 2014 #93

I think you are right on all points in your comment. RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #123

I see the Rove/Koch/Luntz machine has infiltrated the youth and Salon as well... randys1 Nov 2014 #95

Wow. I thought you might find her neoliberal technocratic policies and other odious policies... unrepentant progress Nov 2014 #102

What grounds do you have for that opinion? treestar Nov 2014 #103

Save this post for when you're 55+...then post it again. Sancho Nov 2014 #104

Nothing like prejudice and bigotry to drive one's votes DrDan Nov 2014 #105

I am of the opinion that most political choice has this dimension. RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #124

And I am of the opinion that what I read in the OP DrDan Nov 2014 #140

here is why you are wrong DonCoquixote Nov 2014 #109

I am not stating boomers exclusively. RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #128

Utter nonsense!!!! Beacool Nov 2014 #115

I know we spar a lot Bea DonCoquixote Nov 2014 #144

Good to know that we can agree on something. Beacool Nov 2014 #147

Liz hasselbeck is young DonCoquixote Nov 2014 #149

so you are voting for Ted Cruz or Paul Ryan because they are younger? hollowdweller Nov 2014 #116

Their policies are not aligned with my own. I don't vote conservative. RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #125

Look, there are PLENTY of politicians <60 that are out of touch. Laffy Kat Nov 2014 #118

i appreciate your comment and I know there are many progressive people in every generation. RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #129

Why not just say "Hillary doesn't seem to have my values or 'get it'"... Schema Thing Nov 2014 #120

Paul Ryan is young HockeyMom Nov 2014 #135

It certainly would not be my sole criterion. I'm sorry I was unclear about that. RadiationTherapy Nov 2014 #136

There is enough to gig Hillary about... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2014 #142

Pardon me. I had to change my Depends postatomic Nov 2014 #146