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MFrohike

(1,980 posts)
27. So inefficient
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 03:44 PM
Nov 2014

Electoral politics is such an incompetent way to move an agenda. The GOP doesn't ask how high because Ted Cruz or Rand Paul says something, they do it because AFP, the low-church right, or another pressure group tells them to jump. If you want to actually get something done, pressure with the threat of defunding a candidate, funding a rival, or actually switching party support is by far the most effective.

I don't mean that electoral politics can't be valuable, it just won't get much of anything done without actual pressure from the outside. If electoral politics really was a cure-all, Harry Reid would have killed the filibuster in 2009 and moved legislation.

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To all the Left Wing Purgies [View all] wyldwolf Nov 2014 OP
Nice strawman you got, there. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #1
Cheerleading AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #2
Oh snap! Number23 Nov 2014 #3
+1 nt steve2470 Nov 2014 #29
Too bad DU don't have a Basketball Meme Drunking.... LovingA2andMI Nov 2014 #43
Will this do?? Number23 Nov 2014 #61
Sure does!!! LovingA2andMI Nov 2014 #109
Love it! JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #101
Bringing up logical fallacies is ironic, considering your own post history. BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #4
Two words: Tom Carper. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #5
he'd be a good test run for the glorious purge. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #7
No need for a huge purge, but there are some like geek tragedy Nov 2014 #17
That would take waiting until 2018 though (nt) Recursion Nov 2014 #26
2012 was a missed opportunity nt geek tragedy Nov 2014 #28
At least they stopped using Uncle Joe as an example of a success. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #58
We need to make this a war for the middle class, keep it simple. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #6
A certain few are mad that the Third Way has been exposed as a libertarian think tank Rex Nov 2014 #11
+1 Marr Nov 2014 #94
I love this post and want to buy it a drink after the next precinct msanthrope Nov 2014 #8
I love watching people carry water for the Third Way by creating strawmen. Rex Nov 2014 #9
While the process of running for elected office is a worthy subject for much discussion, G_j Nov 2014 #10
They are mad at the exposure. Rex Nov 2014 #14
What's condescending that what you'd have to do treestar Nov 2014 #15
as I said G_j Nov 2014 #19
You act like you won something. Starry Messenger Nov 2014 #12
they don't know what they would be inspired by or what they would vote FOR treestar Nov 2014 #13
Third Way Talking points. Trashing thread. woo me with science Nov 2014 #16
Indeed...so why post on a thread you are trashing? nt msanthrope Nov 2014 #20
Listen, did I just read a post where someone has declared someone was a shill? Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #30
+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Phlem Nov 2014 #51
The Tea Party has successfully been purging moderate Republicans and they are winning all over eridani Nov 2014 #18
They figured out how to organize wyldwolf Nov 2014 #22
They were astro-turfed. We need a gazzilionaire to do the same for us. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #37
mm k. They figured out how to be astro-turfed. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #40
Because both parties' support is heavily weighted to the right end of their spectrum Recursion Nov 2014 #24
So the red states voted to increase minimum wage because why? n/t eridani Nov 2014 #111
Wow. You want the tea party to be my role model. aquart Nov 2014 #41
Unfortunately this will be twisted around into their favor. But spot on! Phlem Nov 2014 #52
Are you telling us to "sit down and shut up". world wide wally Nov 2014 #21
Yeah that's it. Lol wyldwolf Nov 2014 #23
No....she's suggesting the exact opposite. Put down the Iphone msanthrope Nov 2014 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author Phlem Nov 2014 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author steve2470 Nov 2014 #25
So inefficient MFrohike Nov 2014 #27
1. the 3Way *fails*: its tactics are proven to lose over and over: this doesn't matter because MisterP Nov 2014 #31
Purged. GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #32
who needs magic dust? Doctor_J Nov 2014 #33
This^^ BrotherIvan Nov 2014 #95
Got to keep those facts away from these types. Rex Nov 2014 #96
Oregon liberals and progressives just gave you one of the only major Senatorial victories in the Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #34
Third Way has spoken: You aren't ever getting rid of us. We're going to kill the DEM brand. 1 Party blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #35
Did the Right do it this way? Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #36
This OP wins the LiberalElite Nov 2014 #39
Again, there was a reason we were implored to ignore you in these pages DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2014 #42
The purity police have arrived. Hey, you're not taking your own advice! wyldwolf Nov 2014 #45
I wonder if this happened daredtowork Nov 2014 #44
Ouchie! Looking forward to Lesson 2. I take issue with anyone dissing Henry Wallace: freshwest Nov 2014 #46
For the sake of argument, let's say that liberals cannot win elections. Curmudgeoness Nov 2014 #47
Nice... Blue_In_AK Nov 2014 #48
Excellent! leftofcool Nov 2014 #49
*yawn* the_sly_pig Nov 2014 #50
Complete with a "new name" for anyone who wants a Liberal Democrat. Phlem Nov 2014 #54
hey, aren't you supposed to be ignoring me? wyldwolf Nov 2014 #55
I don't have you ignore Phlem Nov 2014 #56
Here's the line you're following me around with: wyldwolf Nov 2014 #59
Figures, Phlem Nov 2014 #71
"There's a reason your suppose to ignore the 3rd way with extreme prejudice." Do you need a patch? wyldwolf Nov 2014 #72
wow it's down to reaffirming your op with 3rd grade strategies? Phlem Nov 2014 #74
Doubtful thirdgraders know what a patch is. WAIT! You're not following your advice AGAIN! wyldwolf Nov 2014 #76
yep. I'm done here. Phlem Nov 2014 #77
SUUURE you are. One more thing.. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #78
Good show, wyldwolf BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #79
This message was self-deleted by its author wyldwolf Nov 2014 #57
they're hilarious, ain't they? stupidicus Nov 2014 #60
I see that campaign as being more of the same Phlem Nov 2014 #63
yep stupidicus Nov 2014 #92
You wanna keep losing elections? This is how you do it tkmorris Nov 2014 #62
It's been 3rd way for 16 fucking years. Phlem Nov 2014 #64
"what does it take?" LOL wyldwolf Nov 2014 #66
Your absolutely right about one thing. Phlem Nov 2014 #69
You're laughing at the notion of fielding candidates. HEY WAIT!!!! wyldwolf Nov 2014 #70
Like I said, I will not perpetuate ignorance, and I will stop the propaganda. Phlem Nov 2014 #73
fielding candidates is perpetuating ignorance? It's propaganda? wyldwolf Nov 2014 #75
"learn the basic logical fallacies" indeed! arcane1 Nov 2014 #65
What the Author Forgets RadicalGeek Nov 2014 #67
Aww, isn't that cute, they have civics classes in grade school now. Wait, don't you have A Simple Game Nov 2014 #68
DU rec for pissing off all the right people...nt SidDithers Nov 2014 #80
Ever notice the DU pattern? wyldwolf Nov 2014 #81
You know you dun good when you spawn a copycat thread from Manny... SidDithers Nov 2014 #83
He was feeling neglected. Not getting enough 'Manny Love.' wyldwolf Nov 2014 #84
I don't think the DLC are poopyheads tkmorris Nov 2014 #85
Awesome! Thanks for sharing. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #86
Yes, because "pissing people off" is such a great idea tkmorris Nov 2014 #82
wyldwolf, you advocate surrender Martin Eden Nov 2014 #87
To all the third way purgies: Jack Rabbit Nov 2014 #88
That's a pretty thorough demolishing. joshcryer Nov 2014 #89
... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #90
I am fifty six years old. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #91
wow, all that to state the obvious on procedure and qualifications for public office? stupidicus Nov 2014 #93
I find it fascinating progressives are calling for a purge... Spazito Nov 2014 #97
those are the very reasons I DON'T find it fascinating or surprising. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #98
The blatant hypocrisy associated with demanding purging by progressives... Spazito Nov 2014 #99
it's also seemed to me that the very nature of the progressive movement is authoritarian wyldwolf Nov 2014 #100
Certainly those who are demanding purging while claiming to be progressives... Spazito Nov 2014 #102
aha! G_j Nov 2014 #105
aha ha wyldwolf Nov 2014 #106
All this fuss by 5 people over a group of libertarian investment bankers. Rex Nov 2014 #110
Left wing fundamentalism = raising the minimum wage eridani Nov 2014 #107
read the definition of 'fundamentalism.' wyldwolf Nov 2014 #108
How about Julian Castro? DCBob Nov 2014 #103
I suspect he's on the purge list wyldwolf Nov 2014 #104
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