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BlindTiresias

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56. fear is warranted

Sun Nov 9, 2014, 05:32 AM

Nov 2014

Fear is warranted when our society violently opposes the measures necessary to make an automated society not a nightmare or a surefire road to collapse. Think about things like basic minimum income or the, to be frank, techno-communist consequences of a automated economy that serves the people and then consider how much many Americans hate that and would work to prevent it from ever happening in favor of massive structural unemployment and a tiny portion of the population seeing any benefit from automation.

The problem isn't the machines it is that the machines are not going to be used for good ends.

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50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report [View all] Jesus Malverde Nov 2014 OP

And those people who are not "creative" are screwed, I guess. alarimer Nov 2014 #1

Probably means glorified data entry operators. closeupready Nov 2014 #2

"Creative" my foot. Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #35

First to go cashiers at fast food places yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #3

Our chain market just tossed out the self-checkouts nichomachus Nov 2014 #4

Well that is certainly interesting! yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #5

Two possibilities nichomachus Nov 2014 #8

I know someone who manages 9 self-checkouts in their job NBachers Nov 2014 #53

A lot of personal experience makes me conclude that often, trying to save money is not worth it AZ Progressive Nov 2014 #54

they are only ok if you have about 1 to 3 items JI7 Nov 2014 #9

Yep RedCappedBandit Nov 2014 #15

Maybe they noticed people were scanning the canned veg Warpy Nov 2014 #13

No, they were watching that nichomachus Nov 2014 #25

"Unexpected item in the bagging area." Kalidurga Nov 2014 #26

Ah. They only had them in Home Depot here Warpy Nov 2014 #32

People did not like them, I suspect. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #24

I discovered at my grocery store (Giant) MadrasT Nov 2014 #37

damn..I will have to go check that out the next time I hit that store. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #41

Ours did because there was too much theft associated with the self check out lanes. Initech Nov 2014 #44

Nah, those won't even be close to be first to go. JaneyVee Nov 2014 #10

Swipe your card? That's so 20th century. Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #43

being a cashier shouldn't be considered a career in the first place snooper2 Nov 2014 #60

It's already starting and it's further along than most people know nichomachus Nov 2014 #6

So a fragile dystopia, then? BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #11

capitalists doing what capitalists do best. redruddyred Nov 2014 #45

hasn't this type of thing been predicted for years ? JI7 Nov 2014 #7

Yes. It's predicted very decade. Drunken Irishman Nov 2014 #27

Yep, the age of robots is perpetually 10-30 years off. "No, but this time it's real!" Chathamization Nov 2014 #42

Immensely more fulfilling? Lol BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #12

already there is not enough work to sustain the economy redruddyred Nov 2014 #47

This is also troubling BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #14

It's so backwards RedCappedBandit Nov 2014 #16

A living wage is going to be absolutely necessary. joshcryer Nov 2014 #17

Good luck selling that to the "you don't eat if you don't work" Americans AZ Progressive Nov 2014 #18

Sell it as a negative income tax. joshcryer Nov 2014 #19

Actually a guaranteed income is going to be absolutely necessary. n/t. airplaneman Nov 2014 #34

Access to the Report: AZ Progressive Nov 2014 #20

Oh, lol BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #22

America is rapidly becoming into an extreme "Winners and Losers" society AZ Progressive Nov 2014 #21

aggression esp seems to be well-rewarded. redruddyred Nov 2014 #46

Lazy Poor Octafish Nov 2014 #23

Sigh... Keynes said the same thing. A long time ago. haele Nov 2014 #28

Humans Need Not Apply Bosonic Nov 2014 #29

Great vid...nt Jesus Malverde Nov 2014 #31

I saw the video posted months ago, might have been one of yours. Although the tone is appalachiablue Nov 2014 #33

I always go back to good old Durkheim Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #38

I wasn't familiar with Durkheim, thanks. Credible if grim, esp. how tradtional groups like appalachiablue Nov 2014 #64

*snark* *LOL* Same bullshit, different decade... NutmegYankee Nov 2014 #30

No worries! We can all become "consultants" ! LiberalElite Nov 2014 #36

Or bloggers, or social media "experts" Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #39

Our family business will still be keeping us occupied Boudica the Lyoness Nov 2014 #40

HULK NO LIKE! SMASH! SMASH BAD MACHINE! Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #48

That the rub isn't it. Jesus Malverde Nov 2014 #49

There is what I like and what I want, and what I don't like and don't want Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #51

fear is warranted BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #56

A conversation is certainly warranted. Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #57

In fairness BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #58

So they will rather be reamed? AZ Progressive Nov 2014 #52

This scares the hell out of me. LostInAnomie Nov 2014 #50

Your concern may be warranted from what I've seen lately. Transportation is a sector under appalachiablue Nov 2014 #59

way back more than 40 years ago I worked as a small town radio announcer at two different places Douglas Carpenter Nov 2014 #55

"50%" certainly sounds like a number they made up GreatGazoo Nov 2014 #61

In ten years? This is bullshit folks. Stop flapping your arms. Throd Nov 2014 #62

Interesting. So what will these jobs BE? HughBeaumont Nov 2014 #63