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blackspade

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72. Weak sauce.

Reply to leftofcool (Reply #41)

Sun Nov 9, 2014, 11:17 AM

Nov 2014

If that's all you have, the Warren will do fine.

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Hillary is Third Way & a "Stinkbomb into Liberals" [View all] RiverLover Nov 2014 OP

Kickin' Faux pas Nov 2014 #1

Me too, Kick! Florida just went through the third way race, it was a disaster! TheNutcracker Nov 2014 #2

I like her and support her for president as does a majority of Democrats according to the polls. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #3

You need a new talking point. Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #13

You are calling me stupid? hrmjustin Nov 2014 #14

Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #128

You are calling me stupid? hrmjustin Nov 2014 #130

You can at least tell me why you think I am stupid. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #136

i'll take a democratic rancid turnip over harvard's g.w.bush anyday belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #16

ORRRRR Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #18

assuming the populist Democrat would win a general election belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #27

She absolutely would. Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #32

are u refering to elizabeth warren who is not running? belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #34

Yes, are you referring to Hillary Clinton Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #35

yes but i'd vote for either one. how effective do u think ew would be with this congress? belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #40

Was that English Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #47

yes it is belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #62

Because our current centrist president was so effective with this congress? Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #65

that's my ponit belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #67

I suppose you didn't hear about McTurtle's promise right after the President's LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #101

You clearly didn't understand my point. Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #118

We need a winner @ the polls n/t tooeyeten Nov 2014 #29

In 2006, how many people had heard of Barack Obama? Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #39

Leave poor Hillary alone, it won't be her fault when she loses to Ted Cruz or some other A Simple Game Nov 2014 #23

Yeah, Clintons have a long record of losing to Republicans DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #33

Funny I don't think Hillary even qualified for the race last time. A Simple Game Nov 2014 #42

Moving the goalposts early DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #57

Did I move the goalposts or did the American people move the goalposts? Time will tell. n/t A Simple Game Nov 2014 #73

Hillary Clinton has never won a seriously contested election. TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #178

This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #185

So, we should recruit Lizzie W? leftofcool Nov 2014 #41

The Riight Wing would attack Jesus Christ himself Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #51

+100 NordicLeft Nov 2014 #163

Weak sauce. blackspade Nov 2014 #72

Might be best to do a bit more vetting. leftofcool Nov 2014 #116

Warren has never claimed sulphurdunn Nov 2014 #152

Name issues you think is stupid in the DLC. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #53

If you guys didn't learn your lesson Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #58

What is stupid in the DLC issues? Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #113

+10 (nt) reACTIONary Nov 2014 #158

Every Issue - You Name It - Every Single Issue Third Way is deeply rooted in Neo-Conservative ideas. 2banon Nov 2014 #70

Name one. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #114

Seriously? You want Blue Links too? 2banon Nov 2014 #117

I would like to know which issue you think is stupid, I am not sure many people knows Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #135

how about education reform? repetitive standardized testing, privatization, busting teachers unions yurbud Nov 2014 #186

Here you are Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #187

closing schools doesn't help anyone and in practice, DLCers actions on this are yurbud Nov 2014 #188

the rhetoric of accountability is used to "prove" public schools are failing and yurbud Nov 2014 #189

if Third Way/DLCers really believed in this model of education... yurbud Nov 2014 #190

Looks like you are not for better education, at least the DLC wants to improve education, Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #191

why not listen to educators instead of hedge fund managers and Wall Street scammers? yurbud Nov 2014 #192

Perhaps you do not know who you are addressing. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #194

who are you, Arne Duncan? yurbud Nov 2014 #195

Do you think the only way to improve public schools is make the rich richer? yurbud Nov 2014 #193

First the DLC is no more, they folded... hootinholler Nov 2014 #125

No, he doesn't. The truth doesn't need "a new talking point". nt stevenleser Nov 2014 #121

No there is no answer given. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #126

I do too. Rose Siding Nov 2014 #25

I guess I got to get used to the fact that supporting Hillary is not going to be popular here. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #49

Lyndon Johnson who gave us the civil rights act and Medicare would have been considered a third way still_one Nov 2014 #74

Lyndon Johnson didn't "give" us anything. Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #78

no surprise that would come from you, a rewrite of history that I lived through still_one Nov 2014 #95

I lived through it, too Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #98

and neither was John Kennedy who almost got us into WWIII, along with the bay of pigs still_one Nov 2014 #100

I've no idea what you are refering to when you say Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #104

bullshit. Are you aware of the missiles Kennedy was putting into Turkey? Have you ever heard of still_one Nov 2014 #106

You are simply wrong Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #107

Read the Pentagon Papers. It was very superficial what Eisenhower did, Kennedy pushed that policy still_one Nov 2014 #109

Never said he was the Messiah, I lost friends in Nam because of that bullshit, but to deny what he still_one Nov 2014 #102

You pointed to the Civil Rights Act Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #105

No one is solely responsible for anything, and I never said that you thought still_one Nov 2014 #129

something about our political party heaven05 Nov 2014 #52

For now. blackspade Nov 2014 #68

Yep, they keep running into that problem and have no answer for it, do they? nt stevenleser Nov 2014 #122

So do I...she has lots of flaws... joeybee12 Nov 2014 #142

And to the point of name calling to her supporters here now. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #144

They don't seem to realize this place doesn't represent most Dems... joeybee12 Nov 2014 #145

Good point. i eould like to see her move left as well on some things. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #146

Hilary's no fool, she knows which way the wind is blowing... joeybee12 Nov 2014 #147

And not defending the president turned off a lot of democrats. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #148

She was left of Obama in 2008. joshcryer Nov 2014 #164

Sure if you exclude her IWR vote and AtomicKitten Nov 2014 #166

Like her, support her too (nt) reACTIONary Nov 2014 #154

. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #155

Then you must be happy with what's happening to our country. She isn't a friend of the 99% rhett o rick Nov 2014 #161

I made my choice. i think she is the best qualified and most electable. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #172

The majority of Democrats do not support her. What is left of the Dem Party that is. sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #162

. stonecutter357 Nov 2014 #167

How do you know that a majority does not support her? hrmjustin Nov 2014 #169

Well, one way is that when she is up against someone like Warren, she loses sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #173

Is this scientific polling that Warren beats Hillary head to head? which poll is this you are citing hrmjustin Nov 2014 #174

Has there ever been a poll where Hillary isn't the only Dem candidate? Has there ever sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #175

These are the latest polls on RCP. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #176

Well, first of all I don't see any Progressive candidates who are even likely to run against her. sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #177

Well once the primary begins the numbers will change. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #179

How sad if what you say is true, that we have only,, very flawed candidate in our party sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #182

I think after 2 terms of a Democratic President it will be hard to get a fifth. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #184

She voted for the Iraq War too. Broward Nov 2014 #4

& she's pro-fracking, pro-GMO, pro-offshore drilling, pro Wall Street,... RiverLover Nov 2014 #6

Bingo! She's a war hawk, wall street loving, fracking supporter. All that is NOT what we need. peacebird Nov 2014 #20

Thank God for that, at least she supports Legalequilibrium78 Nov 2014 #24

And Bill's parting gift to us was repealing the Glass�Steagall Act RiverLover Nov 2014 #28

and he also gave us Justice Ginsberg. Yup, let's all have tunnel vision still_one Nov 2014 #96

When you have to start a post with "at least she supports" you have already lost. A Simple Game Nov 2014 #48

Here, is the link, go for it still_one Nov 2014 #97

Thanks for the link, I scrolled down and the foreign policy one was enough for me. A Simple Game Nov 2014 #111

I have not lost and neither has Legalequilibrium78 Nov 2014 #108

And when you have to tell people you haven't lost... n/t A Simple Game Nov 2014 #112

Were you not the one who declared that I lost Legalequilibrium78 Nov 2014 #160

No she doesn't. See her support for job killing "free trade" deals and H1B visas. TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #180

and don't forget The Family! nt MisterP Nov 2014 #133

why doesn't salon understand what a think tank is and 'debate' their suggestions directly? Sunlei Nov 2014 #5

Thanks, interesting link (nt) reACTIONary Nov 2014 #159

I thought we all knew the third way was real. zeemike Nov 2014 #7

On the contrary RiverLover Nov 2014 #8

I had no idea I was a fucking crackpot. zeemike Nov 2014 #80

This guy doesn't like Democrats winning national elections. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #9

Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #10

Morally unmoored Centrism is almost the least despicable thing about Hillary Clinton. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #11

We HAVE to recruit Elizabeth Warren. Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #12

polls show her ahead of everyone that is predicted to run belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #17

By "her" I'm assuming you mean Hillary? Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #19

i read your opinion in 13. belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #36

Yeah, polls said that before also. The inevitability meme - didn't work out so well then, did it? peacebird Nov 2014 #22

so we dont believe any polls now belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #30

LOL! Nice. I don't believe any poll taken two years out can predict a presidential race. peacebird Nov 2014 #45

You ride that poll... 99Forever Nov 2014 #26

doesnt make u much of a dem if the dems put up a candidate and you hand your vote to the cons belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #37

Doesn't make you much into REALITY if you think Hillary Goldman Sachs Clinton... 99Forever Nov 2014 #43

Bingo! peacebird Nov 2014 #46

what i think doesnt matter belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #61

The first correct thing you have said. n/t 99Forever Nov 2014 #69

that is just so hillarious and clever belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #81

You should have quit there. Now you are just gone. Bye bye. 99Forever Nov 2014 #84

well if you cant handle the heat run away belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #86

I handle heat just fine, it's stupid bullshit I don't need. 99Forever Nov 2014 #89

then i dont understand why you would start slinging it " The first correct thing you have said. " belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #110

Hillary is already lifting ideas from Warren's speeches madville Nov 2014 #38

Yeah, and no one with two brain cells to rub together Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #44

We need someone LIKE Warren. But we need Warren in the Senate, doing exactly what she's doing. 2banon Nov 2014 #79

I'm good with Bernie. Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #82

Re: Dean's 2004 campaign vs now 2banon Nov 2014 #88

I advocate for extendig the 50-state strategy. Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #91

Yeah right. Hillary can win. No way EW can win. No way. n/t beaglelover Nov 2014 #119

Keep in mind that Sen Warren is a Christian, for whom faith is important FrodosPet Nov 2014 #171

This is politics not rearing your child, there should never be any unconditional support. TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #181

+1, no more neo-con/neo-lib bullshit for the Democratic Party whereisjustice Nov 2014 #15

Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Nov 2014 #21

Not Surprising! raindaddy Nov 2014 #63

But you get a free Grand Bargain! hatrack Nov 2014 #75

That is such an astonishing little clip Oilwellian Nov 2014 #170

And yet as an alternative, many offer a candidate who was part of the Republican Party for 20-25 Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #31

She's truly Progressive now & we NEED that, now. In her words~ RiverLover Nov 2014 #56

I seem to remember after the 2008 primaries... NaturalHigh Nov 2014 #50

The media telling us she is our nominee doesn't make her the nominee RiverLover Nov 2014 #59

Absolutely... NaturalHigh Nov 2014 #64

Ah. Thx for clarifying....I'll be in trouble if she's on the ticket RiverLover Nov 2014 #85

K&R Scuba Nov 2014 #54

Yep, as an Arkansan, her and Bill were just high priced corporate attorneys. LiberalArkie Nov 2014 #55

'''I think her concerns about women and children now extends mostly to photo ops.'''BOOM LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #60

The DLC and its subsequent incarnations... blackspade Nov 2014 #66

What does that sentence about the stink bomb mean? treestar Nov 2014 #71

That she is an anathema to many liberals, so they will not support her. peacebird Nov 2014 #77

The polls completely discredit that and by a huge margin. It's not even close. nt stevenleser Nov 2014 #124

We will get whomever the... SHRED Nov 2014 #76

What do you think of those of us here and Democrats that support Hillary? hrmjustin Nov 2014 #83

Third Way = Neo-Conservative ideas/policies. period. 2banon Nov 2014 #90

I do not support that philosophy. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #93

If you don't support that philosophy, Kermitt Gribble Nov 2014 #131

I support her because she will win. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #132

So it doesn't matter where she stands on the issues, only that she can win. Kermitt Gribble Nov 2014 #134

Did I say that? where did I say that. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #137

She didn't win in the last presidential election. PassingFair Nov 2014 #151

"The actual policies that she advocates are not going to change the material or social well-being of antigop Nov 2014 #87

Rep owned congress and senate was planned so that we will gladly vote for any Dem for the POTUS. L0oniX Nov 2014 #92

Hillary would not be my first choice but I do think she is our best bet to retain the WH.. DCBob Nov 2014 #94

wow, a pragmatic person still_one Nov 2014 #99

Speaking in terms of third Way 2015already Nov 2014 #103

Different economy, much different Clinton. The problem this time isn't lack of wealth and debt... marble falls Nov 2014 #115

Welcome to DU but " had not the republicans voted for Obama to prevent a Hillary win"? uppityperson Nov 2014 #120

Rush Limbaugh solicited Republicans to vote in AtomicKitten Nov 2014 #150

K&R +1,000 nt LiberalElite Nov 2014 #123

Liberals nothing. IMO, she's not a stink bomb only into liberals. merrily Nov 2014 #127

"Third way" goes back to grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #138

You have to understand, there is and agenda here to minimize any talk of the Third Way. Rex Nov 2014 #139

The Clintons never met a Republican they wouldn't "compromise" with. blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #140

If the Pukes are going to lose, they want to lose to Hillary. JEB Nov 2014 #141

True, it would be disastrous for them if someone like Warren or Sanders won. Rex Nov 2014 #143

HRC cannot and will not win the Presidency relayerbob Nov 2014 #149

THIRD-WAY FUCKERS WANT DEMOCRATS TO FAIL. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #153

+1 Veilex Nov 2014 #156

This. nt daredtowork Nov 2014 #157

K&R - No To HRC - No To DLC - No To Third Way cantbeserious Nov 2014 #165

K&R DeSwiss Nov 2014 #168

Yawn, another liberal bashing Hillary. Beacool Nov 2014 #183