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42. Until yesterday,

Sun Nov 9, 2014, 01:26 PM

Nov 2014

I had no idea who he was. I had been in a conversation here with someone calling themself a "Middle Progressive." WTF was a "Middle Progressive?" so I went googling and found the PPI and that article. I think it is quite long by design, to discourage people from reading the entire thing. You know how people are now days, no extra time to be able to sit still and read a long boring political article. But somewhere at the middle or past the middle, it gets down to business and I couldn't believe my eyes. It made me sick.

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I am a JFK Liberal [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 OP

Same Man from Pickens Nov 2014 #1

Coincidentally, just before I came to this thread, I wrote a post on that very point, meaning, merrily Nov 2014 #8

Thanks, merrily... ReRe Nov 2014 #37

Thanks. Will Marshall signed the neoconservative PNAC letter, urging Bush to invade Iraq. merrily Nov 2014 #38

Until yesterday, ReRe Nov 2014 #42

Middle Progressive, Third Way, DLC, Center for American Progess, Progressive Policy Institute, merrily Nov 2014 #43

THEY are the ones who are EXTREME! n/t ReRe Nov 2014 #45

Agree! merrily Nov 2014 #47

Oh yes... I DO remember. ReRe Nov 2014 #50

There was a difference! Was there as much difference as most pretended? No. merrily Nov 2014 #51

Since then? ReRe Nov 2014 #52

same though you can add FDR into it roguevalley Nov 2014 #62

I, too, am a JFK Liberal Octafish Nov 2014 #2

And what did he get for it? Rex Nov 2014 #46

He has our eternal thanks. Octafish Nov 2014 #56

I still cry when I think about what kind of country this would be if RFK had lived. ladyVet Nov 2014 #59

I like that he defines it as a set of goals... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #3

That I agree with. But then, I'd memorized this years ago. 50th rec. freshwest Nov 2014 #64

Yes I am! CountAllVotes Nov 2014 #4

We are JFK Liberals in an era of Salem Witchcraft trial zealots ready to burn any book kairos12 Nov 2014 #5

I don't know if JFK was an economic liberal, but here's his full speech. merrily Nov 2014 #6

Who is today's equivalent? oberliner Nov 2014 #7

Obama but he's not nearly as effective or popular DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #10

How about Bill Clinton? oberliner Nov 2014 #11

There's always a problem of taking somebody from his or her era and transferring them to another. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #15

He'll fit the bill in 20 - 30 years wyldwolf Nov 2014 #16

JFK and RFK are my political idols. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #18

Nope - Bill Clinton Was A Centrist - Truly A Liberal Republican By Standards Of The Day cantbeserious Nov 2014 #28

A liberal Republican is still a liberal, no? oberliner Nov 2014 #30

Hardly - Defending The Policies Of Corporations - Makes One The Enemy Of The People - Corporations cantbeserious Nov 2014 #33

Art Laffer said JFK was the true father of supply side economics. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #34

Many - So Called Liberals - Have Been Co-opted By "Voodoo Economics" - As Bush Senior Proclaimed cantbeserious Nov 2014 #36

He cut tax rates, but closed loopholes at the same time. whathehell Nov 2014 #66

He cut the marginal rate from 91% to 70% AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #71

Obama's lowest popularity rating is still higher than JFK's lowest. n/t Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2014 #17

JFK had an average approval rating of 70% DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #19

Your second link hints at why that's deceptive. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2014 #20

Even at his nadir he had an approval rating of 58% DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #24

This is not true oberliner Nov 2014 #23

You are correct... Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2014 #26

No worries oberliner Nov 2014 #29

The problem I have with the move forward concept of Liberalism, Baitball Blogger Nov 2014 #9

I identify with that sentiment Hari Seldon Nov 2014 #12

Liberals didn't care much for him in '59 - '60 wyldwolf Nov 2014 #13

Because folks are three dimensional figures and not cartoons. /NT DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #21

Well said...nt SidDithers Nov 2014 #32

I really didn't mean it as a criticism of wyldwolf but politicians like people are complex. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #40

that's me too. DCBob Nov 2014 #14

This is the best definition I've seen to date of a liberal as I, too, see it. Skidmore Nov 2014 #22

I like that he defines it as a set of ideals and goals... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #25

Where do you come down on "Ask not what your country can do for you... "? simak Nov 2014 #27

I believe if JFK DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #31

Exactly. Skidmore Nov 2014 #35

That suggests any liberal Democrat could still say that today. I seriously doubt it. simak Nov 2014 #41

I think you are overanalyzing this. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #44

K&R ReRe Nov 2014 #39

Funny how conservatives, Rush, etc... Omaha Steve Nov 2014 #48

sure you are.... daleanime Nov 2014 #49

I wear your ad hominem cryptic attacks like a badge... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #53

You seem to be dancing with yourself..... daleanime Nov 2014 #54

Starting a conversation by implying your interlocutor is a liar... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #55

Huh? daleanime Nov 2014 #58

I am in a mellow mood now. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #60

Me, too, and damned proud of it! nt ladyVet Nov 2014 #57

Me? Probably more like a Great Society Dem with HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #61

Odd, because JFK was a centrist warmonger. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #63

FDR was an even bigger warmonger LeftInTX Nov 2014 #65

Don't get me started on Lincoln DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #67

WW2 was a necessary war. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #69

"were it not for Vietnam" onenote Nov 2014 #68

"Looks ahead and not behind" has nothing to do with liberalism AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #70