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Rex

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46. And what did he get for it?

Sun Nov 9, 2014, 01:44 PM

Nov 2014

He should have kept his plans to hold the CIA and military accountable for their actions a better secret. IMO, the Bay of Pigs should have clued him in to their plans for betrayal.

All I can say is there will never be another Robert or John Kennedy. Two national treasures that we lost to the Establishment.

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I am a JFK Liberal [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 OP

Same Man from Pickens Nov 2014 #1

Coincidentally, just before I came to this thread, I wrote a post on that very point, meaning, merrily Nov 2014 #8

Thanks, merrily... ReRe Nov 2014 #37

Thanks. Will Marshall signed the neoconservative PNAC letter, urging Bush to invade Iraq. merrily Nov 2014 #38

Until yesterday, ReRe Nov 2014 #42

Middle Progressive, Third Way, DLC, Center for American Progess, Progressive Policy Institute, merrily Nov 2014 #43

THEY are the ones who are EXTREME! n/t ReRe Nov 2014 #45

Agree! merrily Nov 2014 #47

Oh yes... I DO remember. ReRe Nov 2014 #50

There was a difference! Was there as much difference as most pretended? No. merrily Nov 2014 #51

Since then? ReRe Nov 2014 #52

same though you can add FDR into it roguevalley Nov 2014 #62

I, too, am a JFK Liberal Octafish Nov 2014 #2

And what did he get for it? Rex Nov 2014 #46

He has our eternal thanks. Octafish Nov 2014 #56

I still cry when I think about what kind of country this would be if RFK had lived. ladyVet Nov 2014 #59

I like that he defines it as a set of goals... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #3

That I agree with. But then, I'd memorized this years ago. 50th rec. freshwest Nov 2014 #64

Yes I am! CountAllVotes Nov 2014 #4

We are JFK Liberals in an era of Salem Witchcraft trial zealots ready to burn any book kairos12 Nov 2014 #5

I don't know if JFK was an economic liberal, but here's his full speech. merrily Nov 2014 #6

Who is today's equivalent? oberliner Nov 2014 #7

Obama but he's not nearly as effective or popular DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #10

How about Bill Clinton? oberliner Nov 2014 #11

There's always a problem of taking somebody from his or her era and transferring them to another. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #15

He'll fit the bill in 20 - 30 years wyldwolf Nov 2014 #16

JFK and RFK are my political idols. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #18

Nope - Bill Clinton Was A Centrist - Truly A Liberal Republican By Standards Of The Day cantbeserious Nov 2014 #28

A liberal Republican is still a liberal, no? oberliner Nov 2014 #30

Hardly - Defending The Policies Of Corporations - Makes One The Enemy Of The People - Corporations cantbeserious Nov 2014 #33

Art Laffer said JFK was the true father of supply side economics. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #34

Many - So Called Liberals - Have Been Co-opted By "Voodoo Economics" - As Bush Senior Proclaimed cantbeserious Nov 2014 #36

He cut tax rates, but closed loopholes at the same time. whathehell Nov 2014 #66

He cut the marginal rate from 91% to 70% AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #71

Obama's lowest popularity rating is still higher than JFK's lowest. n/t Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2014 #17

JFK had an average approval rating of 70% DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #19

Your second link hints at why that's deceptive. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2014 #20

Even at his nadir he had an approval rating of 58% DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #24

This is not true oberliner Nov 2014 #23

You are correct... Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2014 #26

No worries oberliner Nov 2014 #29

The problem I have with the move forward concept of Liberalism, Baitball Blogger Nov 2014 #9

I identify with that sentiment Hari Seldon Nov 2014 #12

Liberals didn't care much for him in '59 - '60 wyldwolf Nov 2014 #13

Because folks are three dimensional figures and not cartoons. /NT DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #21

Well said...nt SidDithers Nov 2014 #32

I really didn't mean it as a criticism of wyldwolf but politicians like people are complex. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #40

that's me too. DCBob Nov 2014 #14

This is the best definition I've seen to date of a liberal as I, too, see it. Skidmore Nov 2014 #22

I like that he defines it as a set of ideals and goals... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #25

Where do you come down on "Ask not what your country can do for you... "? simak Nov 2014 #27

I believe if JFK DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #31

Exactly. Skidmore Nov 2014 #35

That suggests any liberal Democrat could still say that today. I seriously doubt it. simak Nov 2014 #41

I think you are overanalyzing this. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #44

K&R ReRe Nov 2014 #39

Funny how conservatives, Rush, etc... Omaha Steve Nov 2014 #48

sure you are.... daleanime Nov 2014 #49

I wear your ad hominem cryptic attacks like a badge... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #53

You seem to be dancing with yourself..... daleanime Nov 2014 #54

Starting a conversation by implying your interlocutor is a liar... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #55

Huh? daleanime Nov 2014 #58

I am in a mellow mood now. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #60

Me, too, and damned proud of it! nt ladyVet Nov 2014 #57

Me? Probably more like a Great Society Dem with HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #61

Odd, because JFK was a centrist warmonger. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #63

FDR was an even bigger warmonger LeftInTX Nov 2014 #65

Don't get me started on Lincoln DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #67

WW2 was a necessary war. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #69

"were it not for Vietnam" onenote Nov 2014 #68

"Looks ahead and not behind" has nothing to do with liberalism AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #70