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stillwaiting

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19. Oh, I know and agree. But, how do we definitively PROVE that it has happened?

Mon Nov 10, 2014, 10:56 AM

Nov 2014

We can and have certainly proven that it CAN happen which is clearly good enough for me (and probably a strong majority of Americans), but proving that it HAS happened is a bit more difficult isn't it?

If I had to bet on my life one way or the other I would have to say that they have stolen elections in this country on electronic voting machines.

However, if their proprietary voting machines are not able to be examined then it becomes difficult to PROVE that they have done it. Which, of course, is very convenient.

My point is that in the end it doesn't even matter. Since our system is not verifiable in many areas of our country it simply must be changed. Period.

And LOTS of election results don't pass my smell test either. I'm with you.

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TN voters get schooled on election fraud [View all] Fly by night Nov 2014 OP

The more I am seeing the more I am thinking that the 2014 election was way dirty. Botany Nov 2014 #1

From my perspective there's no way to really know. stillwaiting Nov 2014 #6

Ever since the introduction of electronic voting machines there has been a shift ... Botany Nov 2014 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author stillwaiting Nov 2014 #18

Oh, I know and agree. But, how do we definitively PROVE that it has happened? stillwaiting Nov 2014 #19

Ohio's former Sec. of State Jennifer Brunner showed the problems w/her study Botany Nov 2014 #23

Diebold! liberal N proud Nov 2014 #26

ES&S; Diebold sold off it's voting machine division years ago cause it made it's ATM's look insecure Tommymac Nov 2014 #43

Yes. Now we see why all the hoopala over the "hanging chads" was necessary. southerncrone Nov 2014 #47

Dems are complicit, or corrupt. Too much of this happening to be mere coincidence or accident. blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #32

Thanks for staying on top of this one, Fly. Lars39 Nov 2014 #2

I worked hard on this issue, so here is a look at our work. The timing is right again for this info. TheNutcracker Nov 2014 #3

Here is the info on the optiscan software, even where there are ballots! TheNutcracker Nov 2014 #4

These machines are cheap and insecure. Perfect for fraud. riqster Nov 2014 #5

Hopefully TNNurse Nov 2014 #7

Where is this petition please? reflection Nov 2014 #15

It is at www.change.org/ TNNurse Nov 2014 #29

Done and done. Thank you! reflection Nov 2014 #30

The Corporatists are entirely correct. The machines "functioned as intended" ... eppur_se_muova Nov 2014 #8

As a pro-choice dotymed Nov 2014 #9

There is a reason you dont get a receipt. Travis_0004 Nov 2014 #28

You don't need a receipt. All y'all need paper ballots. Fly by night Nov 2014 #31

How would the receipts help? Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #41

Stalin always said,,,, Cryptoad Nov 2014 #10

kick, rec. x( n/t BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2014 #11

I would think if it were a calibration issue, it wouldn't flip after it was chosen, woodsprite Nov 2014 #12

If they'd only had photo ID's! Atman Nov 2014 #14

There's PLENTY of election fraud going on, and it's ALL in those secret black box vote "counters." blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #33

Thanks for this update! hootinholler Nov 2014 #16

WoW!!! ConnorMarc Nov 2014 #17

Paper ballot please....nt peace13 Nov 2014 #20

Even this thread gets frauded (at least on my iPhone) Fly by night Nov 2014 #21

I'm sure our "national news media journalists" will report all the details.. mountain grammy Nov 2014 #22

Checking in and the glitches just continue Fly by night Nov 2014 #24

Holy shite, black box man!! Fly by night Nov 2014 #25

(S)election fraud Martin Eden Nov 2014 #27

It's the e-voting machines, plain & simple. 99th_Monkey Nov 2014 #34

Yes Fly by night Nov 2014 #36

Listening to local news coverage now. beam me up scottie Nov 2014 #35

David Fowler is as good an argument for birth control ... Fly by night Nov 2014 #37

Scott Desjarlais is an even better one, gets a patient pregnant and forces her to get an abortion. beam me up scottie Nov 2014 #38

When people ask me how to pronounce his name Fly by night Nov 2014 #39

LMAO! beam me up scottie Nov 2014 #40

My instinct tells me its not just Tennessee. Keep us posted.. joanbarnes Nov 2014 #42

Voters have to demand paper ballots. eom roody Nov 2014 #44

I'm waiting for the heat. leanforward Nov 2014 #45

Bradblog leanforward Nov 2014 #46

Your memory is correct. Fly by night Nov 2014 #48

Sec of State Tre "Too Tall" Hargett calls ... Fly by night Nov 2014 #49