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MineralMan

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12. That's interesting. Sometimes, it's hard to define the difference between
Thu Dec 22, 2011, 12:22 PM
Dec 2011

wanting to look one's best and wanting to attract sexual attention. Often, the two things merge, I think. There's a line somewhere, but it's not a bright, well-defined line, in my opinion. It's not a clearly gender-based thing, either. Men try to dress and groom to look their best, too.

Part of it is a business and general social thing, but part of it, especially among younger people, is based on the whole mating game, even for those who are in relationships. Every situation has different expectations and challenges. For me, it's hard to criticize people for wanting to be attractive to others. Yes, there's a lot of pressure from those who sell products and services, but there's also a lot of personal pressure from inside people to maximize their impact on others, and for a lot of reasons.

I'm long out of the game of trying to attract sexual partners, but I still check the mirror before I leave my house. When I have an appointment with a potential client, I always think about who that client is, and dress and groom myself to present an image that will accomplish my goal of getting work from that client. If the client's business is something like a fence company, I know I'll be meeting with someone who isn't wearing a suit and tie. If the business has other characteristics, I tailor my appearance to meet the expectations I'm likely to encounter at that business. I'm a blue jeans and plaid shirt kind of guy, but, I can clean up well. I can show up in whatever role I think I need to present, from blue collar manual labor to suit and tie banker. I can't count the number of times, I've looked in the mirror before one of those appointments, and headed for the barber shop to make my hair and full beard a bit less prominent. I'll dress differently if I'm meeting a guy who works with his hands or a woman who owns a business that runs out of an office building. I need to make a good impression with either, and appearance is the very first thing they see. As the meeting progresses, they'll discover other aspects of my skills and attitudes, but when I walk in the door, how I look is important.

Do I wish I didn't have to do that? Not really. I live in society, and work in society. Meeting the expectations of society is just part of the mix. It's not a simple equation. I don't think it ever has been.

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dehumanizes. my half mexican niece, had a choice of 8 girls. 7 darker hair, darker eyes. ONE seabeyond Dec 2011 #1
Pretty awful. It's horrible that kids are exposed to these messages from the media and society. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #2
See if you can follow this JustAnotherGen Dec 2011 #4
when did we give up the power of our sexuality and self-image to Hugh Hefner seabeyond Dec 2011 #7
I think they pretty much took it, don't you think? whathehell Dec 2011 #14
if the guys are yelling boobies, boobies, strip for me and the girl says seabeyond Dec 2011 #25
Well, that's the way I used to respond to guys when I was young whathehell Dec 2011 #33
you have to look at their environment today. they have been raised being pornified. seabeyond Dec 2011 #35
Yes, you certainly have a point there....EVERYTHING was different then whathehell Dec 2011 #36
a couple things. VS use to be about the woman and empowering her sexuality. it was all about her. seabeyond Dec 2011 #37
Good point JustAnotherGen Dec 2011 #43
Thanks for sharing this article, Sarah. The articles nails it. left coaster Dec 2011 #3
Quite true. Unfortunately, unless it gets pointed out to us we often don't notice it. Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #5
One Reason Women RobinA Dec 2011 #10
Very true. And we buy it because the media does have an influence upon our thinking Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #18
That's interesting. Sometimes, it's hard to define the difference between MineralMan Dec 2011 #12
I agree with you Mineral Man. People want to look nice to the opposite sex. The problem is... Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #23
You're right. The evening news, especially on MineralMan Dec 2011 #28
So true, Mineral Man, it's so out of place. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #32
everyone of my conversations conclude, though an issue for women, it is mans, too. human issue seabeyond Dec 2011 #30
Just like that stupid Piperline Ad obamanut2012 Dec 2011 #6
Thanks! Which Piperline ad? I don't think I saw it. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #8
This thread obamanut2012 Dec 2011 #9
Interesting. And women are supposed to take that lightly and not get upset by it. Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #11
I think women should take that seriously, and communicate their frustration with that ad MineralMan Dec 2011 #13
Thank you, Mineral Man. It's good to see when someone gets it. We're so inundated by Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #16
I'm not a father, so I can't speak to my own reaction, but MineralMan Dec 2011 #19
Yup obamanut2012 Dec 2011 #15
Yeah! We need to be happy and smile through it all! nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #17
I didn't say that we needed to lighten up. MineralMan Dec 2011 #20
I never said you did, nor even mentioned you obamanut2012 Dec 2011 #21
Sorry. I thought you were referring to one of my posts MineralMan Dec 2011 #26
Okay obamanut2012 Dec 2011 #27
Love this piece... redqueen Dec 2011 #22
You're welcome, Redqueen! nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #24
women smear their faces with colored mud...errr...makeup. Why? cost $$ billions a year nt msongs Dec 2011 #29
It's very expensive! The beauty industry makes a mint off women. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #31
i am bummed. this was a very good OP. can you edit and put it back in? seabeyond Dec 2011 #34
I would love to read this OP. While I'm sure I'd agree with the case being made, retread Dec 2011 #38
I'm not sure what you mean, but I'll be glad to do it, if you explain lol Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #39
NEVER MIND! I SAW IT! I'll edit. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #40
I edited it and put it back, then I recommended it. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #41
k&r Starry Messenger Dec 2011 #42
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