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angrychair

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139. hard to say MineralMan

Mon Nov 10, 2014, 04:59 PM

Nov 2014

As you have stated "Any Democrat is better than a rethug" and I will vote for HRC if she is our Party's choice BUT it will kind of feel like I'm hitting myself in the head with a hammer.

I would love to to have Sanders or Warren run but that seems unlikely.

I don't like O'Malley because he doesn't bring anything different to the table than HRC and if anything may be even more of a "centerist" corporate shill (also don't like the fact he sold out to the gambling industry).

Webb has said things about women that is awkward at best if not outright misogynist. I also worry he would be a shill for the MIC.

In short unless we have some candidate X out there I don't know about than HRC is the most likely choice.

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Your suggestions are spot on, my dear MineralMan. CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2014 #1

Looks like right now JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #2

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That's good. We need to be discussing this right now. MineralMan Nov 2014 #19

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... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #101

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hard to say MineralMan angrychair Nov 2014 #139

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I'm still not clear on Boom Sound 416 Nov 2014 #154

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