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In reply to the discussion: Say goodbye to Obamacare... [View all]shaayecanaan
(6,068 posts)21. Interesting article
Those who support the law as its been interpreted up to nowDemocrats, basicallysay its obvious that this later section means that these federally created exchanges then stand in the shoes of the state-established exchanges for all purposes.
And everyone would have to agree were it not for a problem deep within the bowels of the subprovisions defining how to compute the tax credits that health plan enrollees are entitled to under the law. (These tax credits are advanced to the taxpayer and then paid directly by the government to the health insurer, so the enrollee experiences them only in the form of lower premiums.)
The amount of the tax credit, the law says, is to be based on something called the premium assistance credit amount, and that, in turn, is based on the number of coverage months the taxpayer incurred that year, and a coverage month, finally, is defined as a month that the taxpayer spent enrolled in a health plan through an Exchange established by the State. (Emphasis added.)
Do you see the problem? Taken literally, the four italicized words seem to mean that theres actually no tax credit available at all for anyone enrolled in a plan obtained through an exchange set up by the federal government, because thats not an Exchange established by the State! And since 34 (mainly red) states declined to set up their own exchanges, most of the millions of people that everyone had assumed would be the laws beneficiaries are actually ineligible for the tax credit that was supposed to make their care affordable.
And everyone would have to agree were it not for a problem deep within the bowels of the subprovisions defining how to compute the tax credits that health plan enrollees are entitled to under the law. (These tax credits are advanced to the taxpayer and then paid directly by the government to the health insurer, so the enrollee experiences them only in the form of lower premiums.)
The amount of the tax credit, the law says, is to be based on something called the premium assistance credit amount, and that, in turn, is based on the number of coverage months the taxpayer incurred that year, and a coverage month, finally, is defined as a month that the taxpayer spent enrolled in a health plan through an Exchange established by the State. (Emphasis added.)
Do you see the problem? Taken literally, the four italicized words seem to mean that theres actually no tax credit available at all for anyone enrolled in a plan obtained through an exchange set up by the federal government, because thats not an Exchange established by the State! And since 34 (mainly red) states declined to set up their own exchanges, most of the millions of people that everyone had assumed would be the laws beneficiaries are actually ineligible for the tax credit that was supposed to make their care affordable.
Christ, what a mess. You have to feel sorry for the poor slob who actually drafted that provision. I have to say though, its probably best that this issue is sorted out now, because its only going to come up later.
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Why would Roberts suddenly start giving a shit now about the lives of "average" Americans?
villager
Nov 2014
#1
Why did Roberts twist himself into a pretzel to preserve the ACA in 2012? (nt)
Nye Bevan
Nov 2014
#10
It is not epilespy because when I read the name of the disease I had never heard of it
Samantha
Nov 2014
#125
A good question. I believe that Roberts actually wrote the decision to strike the ACA down,
StevieM
Nov 2014
#47
The Federal government cannot order state governments to do that under the Constitution
Yo_Mama
Nov 2014
#55
Congress, if they werent domesstic terrorists, the cons that is, could fix this the way congress
randys1
Nov 2014
#82
The Federal government doesn't have the legal authority to mandate that states establish an Exchange
Yo_Mama
Nov 2014
#53
Of course California is not the whole West Coast....Democrats won in Oregon by margins like 20%
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2014
#105
Heard this 2 yrs. ago and thought it super. This can't go on, better to save some
appalachiablue
Nov 2014
#48
What scares me is that the election kind of gave them a go ahead if they want to take it that way.
jwirr
Nov 2014
#5
He's happy to do things like preserve the ACA to keep the heat off him and the SCOTUS,
Nye Bevan
Nov 2014
#14
Protesters outside should put a huge board of faces of the people that will die if the court rules..
AZ Progressive
Nov 2014
#12
I called my state representative, Kathy Byron, who only seems to care about the fetus.
phylny
Nov 2014
#73
That word 'never' is one I've heard spoken with great certainty about LGBT rights, marriage equality
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2014
#106
I think Roberts pulls the trigger this time. He is drifting with a bloody red state flag. Be damned
kairos12
Nov 2014
#38
Teaparty is in charge of the repub party, are they in charge of Roberts, this is the question
randys1
Nov 2014
#84
No, it's not. This is corporate oligarchy, and Obamacare was written by insurance companies.
woo me with science
Nov 2014
#89
How soon they forget the meeting behind closed doors ...single payer advocates excluded.
L0oniX
Nov 2014
#124
Tommy Douglas started single-payer universal health care in Saskatchewan.
Manifestor_of_Light
Nov 2014
#128
Oregon Democrats won by huge margins, Oregon would eagely start our own system.
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2014
#107
All that will be left is the tax bill, and I'm not so uncertain that that wasn't the plan all along.
blkmusclmachine
Nov 2014
#46
The GOP-Controlled Congress and the GOP-Controlled Media Will Blame Obama for the Mess
AndyTiedye
Nov 2014
#54
And if we roll over and do nothing at that point, we deserve what happens to us
randys1
Nov 2014
#85
It was to win over conservative Democrats in Congress with a states rights element.
Eric J in MN
Nov 2014
#78
I cant help you if you dont understand that WHITE HOT HATE of Obama based on who he is
randys1
Nov 2014
#88
This challenge is about private companies getting money from the government. There's no way
hughee99
Nov 2014
#104