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In reply to the discussion: Here are the rats that are fucking Democrats [View all]JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)If we had had a strong Democrat who could stand up with pride and sincerely say, "I voted for Obama because I support his values: working people over bankers, jobs over cheap imports, the environment and peace, and here is how we Democrats plan to validate our values and then discussed specific policy points, she would have won. She ran to the right of Obama. Could it be that in beautiful Kentucky (I remember it from the 1950s when it truly was beautiful and I traveled through it frequently), people would vote to save their environment if they had a candidate courageous enough to tell them the truth about what Republican policies and lack of value will mean for our environment?
When I talk about candidates with traditional Democratic values, the values of Eleanor Roosevelt to name one Democrat who was clear on them, I am talking about the same thing you are talking about when you say honesty.
When a person speaks from the basis of well considered values, he or she will speak the truth.
When people speak about policies and lists of policies that can be negotiated and compromised, those people will come across as liars even if they don't mean to lie.
Yes. You negotiate and compromise, but you do not justify your negotiations and compromise. You clearly state that you are not abandoning your values and that you don't like the outcome, but you will compromise just for peace while still advocating your values. The Democrats defend the outcomes of their compromises and come across as liars.
Alison Lundergan Grimes should have said she voted for Obama because while she did not agree with every policy he is associated with, she agrees with his stands on justice, equality, a fair chance for American working people and working together as a nation. There is a lot more she could have said.
But there is no point in a Democratic Party if it does not fight tirelessly for economic justice. No point at all.. All the other issues, the specific constituency issues are important because they are aspects of economic justice. But the central issue for the Democratic party has to be economic justice.
Voters who don't primarily care about economic justice are going to vote Republican, and there is nothing you can do about it.