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markpkessinger

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16. No, it's not off by that much in a single state . . .
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 09:39 PM
Nov 2014

. . . But two percentage points is quite significant, and when that kind of redistribution of electoral college percentages happens across multiple swing states (but not in red states), it becomes very significant indeed.

As to your point that "people in PA that voted for John McCain would most likely say that giving him ~3.5 percentage points more than he earned is not as much of an injustice as giving President Obama ~47.6 percentage more than he earned in votes," here's the thing: for a state that adopts this proportional (by congressional district) representation, the power of its majority voice is reduced significantly relative to that of those states that do not adopt it. Again, if ALL states did this, it would be a different matter, but there is no plan anywhere to do this in any but the swing states. And the reason for that is quite obvious. This idea is targeted towards swing states: specifically, swing states in which the majority of the population resides in a minority of districts, and where Democrats tend to be found in those same districts. This unfairly advantages rural districts over urban ones, and Republicans over Democrats, in these states.

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Fuck those goddamn sacks of shit Blue Owl Nov 2014 #1
Maine and Nebraska already do this yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #2
Agree SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #3
National Popular Vote Bill - 61% of the way of going into effect mvymvy Nov 2014 #19
"seems" being the operative word here. unblock Nov 2014 #26
Individual states would do it based on whether or not they thought it would help Republicans. drm604 Nov 2014 #4
Ugh! yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #5
I'm not sure there are any Democratic majority states where it would help Democrats n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #7
we would need democratic control of a state that usually votes for the republican for president. unblock Nov 2014 #28
Yeah, but they're not trying to do it in all 50 states. DanTex Nov 2014 #6
Right now candidates only focus on 8 swing states and ignore the other 42, 4139 Nov 2014 #8
IFFF changed in all 50 states, Focus Could Then be on Only 8% of Country mvymvy Nov 2014 #20
Maine has all of 4 electoral votes, and Nebraska has 2 . . . markpkessinger Nov 2014 #11
Let me be clear that I don't agree with states doing this SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #15
No, it's not off by that much in a single state . . . markpkessinger Nov 2014 #16
Agree on all points n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #17
Maine has 4 electoral votes, Nebraska has 5 mvymvy Nov 2014 #22
MI, OH, WI, FL, IA and NV would change to congressional district method mvymvy Nov 2014 #23
Of Course, the proposed change in cherry picked states would help the GOP mvymvy Nov 2014 #18
Except they won't push for it in Texas mythology Nov 2014 #21
The only other thing they could do Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #35
State winner take all by CD? earthside Nov 2014 #9
I think the way it is in Nebraska and Maine SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #10
Exactly right . . . markpkessinger Nov 2014 #12
In the 2000 election they were wanting to do away with the electoral college. B Calm Nov 2014 #13
Yep... Until It Saved Their Asses... WillyT Nov 2014 #14
Most Americans Support a National Popular Vote mvymvy Nov 2014 #24
So Robbins Nov 2014 #25
Hence the Voter ID laws and gutting of Voter Rights Act. Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #33
Gerrymandering only insures their control of the State Houses and Congress liberal N proud Nov 2014 #27
Instead of jacking with the Electoral College, just get rid of the damned thing! Zen Democrat Nov 2014 #29
3% of US Pop could stop amendment mvymvy Nov 2014 #30
I don't ever see that happening n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #31
This is the only college they care about. Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #32
So, it's gerrymandering at a federal level. n/t woodsprite Nov 2014 #34
Dictators. City Lights Nov 2014 #36
kick napkinz Nov 2014 #37
Keep the dimes, toss the nickles AngryAmish Nov 2014 #38
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