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mvymvy

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18. Of Course, the proposed change in cherry picked states would help the GOP
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 01:39 PM
Nov 2014

The point is, Republican legislators who want to split state electoral votes in states that have recently voted Democratic in presidential elections, do not want to split electoral votes in states that recently voted Republican in presidential elections.

The Republican legislators who want to split state electoral votes do not want to do it in all 50 states.

Dividing more states’ electoral votes by congressional district winners would magnify the worst features of the Electoral College system.

Even if the district approach were used nationally, it would be less fair and less accurately reflect the will of the people than the current system. In 2004, Bush won 50.7% of the popular vote, but 59% of the districts. Although Bush lost the national popular vote in 2000, he won 55% of the country's congressional districts.

In 2012, for instance, when Obama garnered nearly a half million more votes in Michigan than Romney, the Republican nominee still managed to carry nine of the state’s 14 congressional districts.

Awarding electoral votes by congressional district could result in no candidate winning the needed majority of electoral votes. That would throw the process into Congress to decide.

Because there are generally more close votes on district levels than states as whole, district elections increase the opportunity for error. The larger the voting base, the less opportunity there is for an especially close vote.

Also, a second-place candidate could still win the White House without winning the national popular vote.

A national popular vote is the way to make every person's vote equal and matter to their candidate because it guarantees that the candidate who gets the most votes in all 50 states and DC becomes President.

Maine and Nebraska voters support a national popular vote.

A survey of Maine voters showed 77% overall support for a national popular vote for President.
In a follow-up question presenting a three-way choice among various methods of awarding Maine’s electoral votes,
* 71% favored a national popular vote;
* 21% favored Maine’s current system of awarding its electoral votes by congressional district; and
* 8% favored the statewide winner-take-all system (i.e., awarding all of Maine’s electoral votes to the candidate who receives the most votes statewide).
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A survey of Nebraska voters showed 74% overall support for a national popular vote for President.
In a follow-up question presenting a three-way choice among various methods of awarding Nebraska’s electoral votes,
* 60% favored a national popular vote;
* 28% favored Nebraska’s current system of awarding its electoral votes by congressional district; and
* 13% favored the statewide winner-take-all system (i.e., awarding all of Nebraska’s electoral votes to the candidate who receives the most votes statewide).


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Fuck those goddamn sacks of shit Blue Owl Nov 2014 #1
Maine and Nebraska already do this yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #2
Agree SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #3
National Popular Vote Bill - 61% of the way of going into effect mvymvy Nov 2014 #19
"seems" being the operative word here. unblock Nov 2014 #26
Individual states would do it based on whether or not they thought it would help Republicans. drm604 Nov 2014 #4
Ugh! yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #5
I'm not sure there are any Democratic majority states where it would help Democrats n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #7
we would need democratic control of a state that usually votes for the republican for president. unblock Nov 2014 #28
Yeah, but they're not trying to do it in all 50 states. DanTex Nov 2014 #6
Right now candidates only focus on 8 swing states and ignore the other 42, 4139 Nov 2014 #8
IFFF changed in all 50 states, Focus Could Then be on Only 8% of Country mvymvy Nov 2014 #20
Maine has all of 4 electoral votes, and Nebraska has 2 . . . markpkessinger Nov 2014 #11
Let me be clear that I don't agree with states doing this SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #15
No, it's not off by that much in a single state . . . markpkessinger Nov 2014 #16
Agree on all points n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #17
Maine has 4 electoral votes, Nebraska has 5 mvymvy Nov 2014 #22
MI, OH, WI, FL, IA and NV would change to congressional district method mvymvy Nov 2014 #23
Of Course, the proposed change in cherry picked states would help the GOP mvymvy Nov 2014 #18
Except they won't push for it in Texas mythology Nov 2014 #21
The only other thing they could do Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #35
State winner take all by CD? earthside Nov 2014 #9
I think the way it is in Nebraska and Maine SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #10
Exactly right . . . markpkessinger Nov 2014 #12
In the 2000 election they were wanting to do away with the electoral college. B Calm Nov 2014 #13
Yep... Until It Saved Their Asses... WillyT Nov 2014 #14
Most Americans Support a National Popular Vote mvymvy Nov 2014 #24
So Robbins Nov 2014 #25
Hence the Voter ID laws and gutting of Voter Rights Act. Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #33
Gerrymandering only insures their control of the State Houses and Congress liberal N proud Nov 2014 #27
Instead of jacking with the Electoral College, just get rid of the damned thing! Zen Democrat Nov 2014 #29
3% of US Pop could stop amendment mvymvy Nov 2014 #30
I don't ever see that happening n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #31
This is the only college they care about. Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #32
So, it's gerrymandering at a federal level. n/t woodsprite Nov 2014 #34
Dictators. City Lights Nov 2014 #36
kick napkinz Nov 2014 #37
Keep the dimes, toss the nickles AngryAmish Nov 2014 #38
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