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SickOfTheOnePct

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18. I'm not sure they would be idiots to rule against the federal exchange
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 11:06 PM
Nov 2014

According to Gruber, subsidies were purposely NOT supposed to available on the federal exchange:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/07/25/obamacare-architect-agreed-with-gop-exchange-subsidies-can-only-flow-through-state-exchanges/


In his remarks, Gruber urged state governments to set up their own health insurance exchanges. A member of the audience asked: “It’s my understanding that if states don’t provide [exchanges], then the federal government will provide them for the states.”

Gruber responded: “What’s important to remember politically about [Obamacare] is if you’re a state and you don’t set up an exchange, that means your citizens don’t get their tax credits—but your citizens still pay the taxes that support this bill. So you’re essentially saying [to] your citizens you’re going to pay all the taxes to help all the other states in the country. I hope that that’s a blatant enough political reality that states will get their act together and realize there are billions of dollars at stake here in setting up these exchanges. But, you know, once again the politics can get ugly around this.”
(bolding added by me).

That statement pretty much makes lies of all the claims now that it was a typo, or that "state" was meant to mean "state or federal". Based on what one of the architects of the law is saying, the claims of the plaintiffs are correct.

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Super nice guy. Indydem Nov 2014 #1
those were idiotic and counter-productive remarks. and they will be used against dems cali Nov 2014 #2
It's all so very concerning. Cali_Democrat Nov 2014 #4
really? you think these remarks were helpful? wait. It's you cali Nov 2014 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Nov 2014 #10
Like I said, I'm so very concerned. Cali_Democrat Nov 2014 #13
It was sarcasm. Indydem Nov 2014 #12
True, and probably... truebluegreen Nov 2014 #15
I'm not sure they would be idiots to rule against the federal exchange SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #18
Somebody named Gruber, architect of Romneycare, consultant on Obamacare, being quoted by Forbes. truebluegreen Nov 2014 #19
Jonathan Gruber was a paid consultant during the drafting of the ACA SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #20
He has a funny way of showing it. nt truebluegreen Nov 2014 #22
Have you watched any of the videos? SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #23
did he actually have a hand in obamacare, or just massachusetts' rmoneycare law unblock Nov 2014 #3
He was one of the main consultants for this bill with OMB. Mass Nov 2014 #8
Does he know that voters didn't vote on the bill? Scuba Nov 2014 #5
i'm sure he understands that voter vote for or against congresscritters... unblock Nov 2014 #11
Nothing new, sadly. This seems to have been the general explanation for the 2014 election as well Mass Nov 2014 #7
So what if it did? Old Nick Nov 2014 #9
I'm hoping you meant helped the American people?? MadDAsHell Nov 2014 #17
hey look at me! i'm a perfesser who helped create public policy! can i haz senate seat like warren? unblock Nov 2014 #14
Third ways a charm. GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #16
I think we all need to realize - this is how most bills get passed. Avalux Nov 2014 #21
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