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Ampersand Unicode

(503 posts)
23. Why should it remain illegal?
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 03:05 PM
Nov 2014

My body, myself. Death happens no matter what; why shouldn't a person have the choice to snip the threads of fate when they choose instead of waiting for "natural causes" or "God" to take them?

Do you feel this way about abortion also? That's the only other bodily-autonomy issue I can think of that is so controversial.

I'm 18. I contribute zilch creatively or to the economy (and more and more, the two are looking mutually exclusive). I will probably never contribute anything either way. I could go on again about how liberal-arts majors don't do anything but make burgers for minimum wage. Much as I think it should be raised, even if you made six figures flipping burgers, you're still nothing but a lowly burger flipper. Who wants to be condemned to a life of menial shift work? I don't. Sadly, I probably will be, because I can't do math and the only good-paying jobs other than high-priced call girl or professional assassin are STEM jobs. There's no money in writing; there's no money in art; there's no money in music; there's no money in whatever it is I do when I'm looking up boring shit to write a term paper (I believe this is called academic research). Basically there's no money in anything that doesn't involve high-skilled math courses and an almost entirely left-brain number-processing capability.

I have already made the choice to die because my life is worth nothing. I'm basically what you might consider "occupationally disabled," as in, I'm not sans limbs or hearing voices or rubbing shit on the walls, but neither can I do much of anything that would earn me enough money to make end's meet. All I can do is write an A paper on comparisons between the populist and ill-fated Gracchi brothers in ancient Rome and John and Bobby Kennedy for a history class. Know how many sesterces that earned me? Zero. Know how many I was able to give to the economy for it? Zero. Big fat nulla.

The college's career center has already said to me that they don't like to deal with humanities students because they are so hard to find jobs and internships for. I got the bum's rush because nobody wants them. The advice I got from a career counselor was to switch to a STEM major. I said I can't, for the life of me, do math. Her response was to print out an application to Macy's with a smug, "They're hiring for the holidays. Maybe it'll turn into a permanent job."

TL;DR: Emanuel is right. Why should anyone be forced to live a meaningless life if they know, and are ashamed of the fact, that they "contribute nothing"? I say bring on the death panels because I want to be the first to sign up!

K&R for embarrassment purposes! This should have more exposure! TheNutcracker Nov 2014 #1
I remember when this story first broke. I didn't know he was Rahm's brother. kcr Nov 2014 #29
Yes. For those who said hey! I (or my friend) am 75 and still golfing! djean111 Nov 2014 #2
In other words he thinks people are here to work for the system and dilby Nov 2014 #3
I think it's funny. enlightenment Nov 2014 #4
Why is someone so "disconnected" advising the President on health care policy? TheNutcracker Nov 2014 #6
He's not doing that anymore. enlightenment Nov 2014 #18
^^ THIS^^ Plus his bizarre little swipe at his brother seems to have inspired him here, as if bettyellen Nov 2014 #16
Yeah....I caught a lot of cognitive dissonance in his words.. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #26
Did anyone other than me actually read that Atlantic article? beerandjesus Nov 2014 #5
Again, why then are the bat shit crazies advising the President? TheNutcracker Nov 2014 #7
'Bat shit crazy'? That's a kneejerk reaction if I ever saw one muriel_volestrangler Nov 2014 #10
Well, no idea about OP's view, but Emanuel thinks it should be illegal suffragette Nov 2014 #19
I was thinking about whether the thread starter wanted the person themselves prosecuted muriel_volestrangler Nov 2014 #22
I read that as TheNutcracker being concerned at the influence Emanuel has on policy here suffragette Nov 2014 #25
Why should it remain illegal? Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #23
You completely misread my post and reversed the views of myself and Emanuel suffragette Nov 2014 #24
"meaningless" is subject to interpretation treestar Nov 2014 #39
Sounds like a No. beerandjesus Nov 2014 #11
But they're OUR batshit crazies as opposed to THEIR batshit crazies. hobbit709 Nov 2014 #17
Wow, just a few weeks ago people on this board were all for this. Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #27
There was a lot of discussion about it when it was originally published 2 months ago muriel_volestrangler Nov 2014 #8
Thanks for that. Seemed strange that this would be coming up now. beerandjesus Nov 2014 #12
I did. enlightenment Nov 2014 #20
I think most people are misunderstanding what he actually said. alarimer Nov 2014 #9
I define denial of medical treatment as torture. Downwinder Nov 2014 #35
I don't think someone else should decide for the 90 year old treestar Nov 2014 #40
Sounds death panel-ish. nt Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #43
"Hope I die before I get old" ~ The Who said it best. aikoaiko Nov 2014 #13
No; they said it glibly, cynically, for money. Do you think Daltry would trade places with Moon now? WinkyDink Nov 2014 #30
Well he give the average Joe 75 more years of value then Rahm does. Rahm dones't think most Exultant Democracy Nov 2014 #14
At 73 years of age I tend to agree with him on much in this article. For instance, too many people jwirr Nov 2014 #15
More BS from the "third way" - TBF Nov 2014 #21
I don't mind doing it. Why shouldn't I? Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #31
... TBF Nov 2014 #32
This is a very deranged and dangerous man. "I live life by the data." I don't accept his premise: WinkyDink Nov 2014 #28
Exactly - and to a society TBF Nov 2014 #33
Life is imprimus. Society merely facilitates Life. Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #44
He is a product of the times, we live in a Throw Way society. Rex Nov 2014 #34
Classic Republican thought on the subject of aging. If you can't produce ladjf Nov 2014 #36
His views (known for some time) and his involvement as an advisor....... WillowTree Nov 2014 #37
Thanks for making seniors more Faux pas Nov 2014 #38
Being described as a "trained oncologist" treestar Nov 2014 #41
I would hope he would TBF Nov 2014 #42
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