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Ampersand Unicode

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27. Wow, just a few weeks ago people on this board were all for this.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 02:32 PM
Nov 2014

Bodily autonomy in the Brittany Maynard case. But for everyone else who isn't terminal and just wants to make a conscious choice, tough shit bro, you have to suffer because every life is sacred, every life is great, if ever a 99%-er is wasted, Marx gets quite irate?

Why shouldn't euthanasia and assisted suicide be legal for EVERYONE regardless of "justifiable cause"? Robin Williams had a shitload of problems when he brutally hanged himself with a belt. You think he should have kept calm and carried on?

How about people who are just tired of the shit that this world deals them and would rather die than live miserably as pawns in this sick game of paycheck-to-paycheck? The woman in New Jersey who worked 4 Dunkin' Donuts jobs: what if her death wasn't an accident and she just decided she was tired of working 4 Dunkin' Donuts jobs with no hope for upward mobility? You'd tell her to fight the good fight for all of us and soldier on? Quit all her jobs and go on public assistance? Go to college and then work 40 Dunkin' Donuts jobs to pay back student loans for a worthless basket-weaving degree?

How about people like me who are 18 and haven't even gone out into the "real world" yet but don't really see the point in bothering anymore because all that's left are Dunkin' Donuts jobs unless you're a math genius like Will Hunting and get a full ride to MIT. How about people who think that a life condemned to poverty and shift work is a fate worse than death, who vote and vote and vote for everything including dog catcher yet see no improvements in their own lives because everything is sold out to the rich and nobody really cares about the grunt behind the cash register. How about people who don't see anything noble about poverty and are realistic enough to accept that we're not all going to run out into the streets and foment another Bolshevik Revolution. Or how about people who don't even want to provide a reason and just decide they want to have control over when the threads of fate get snipped.

Why is what Emanuel is suggesting wrong? All he said was who in their right mind wants to live a life knowing they're a burden to other people? I sure don't. Heck, I don't even want to live past quarter-life because I know I'll just be a burden on the public system. I know that the 1% or the 0.01% or the 0.0000000001% or whatever the percentage of greedy SOBs at the top is called are not the ones contributing to that system and never will be. It's the guy working two or three halfway decent office jobs or construction jobs at 100 hours a week just to feed himself and his family and send his kids to college. And he's tired and he doesn't want to be burdened by everyone else because he can't be. It's killing him. Better me than him, because at least he's doing something for the greater good. He's got a skill, a worthwhile skill, whether it's operating a jackhammer or a Caterpillar or doing spreadsheets or ripping wires out of telephone poles, and he's using it for some greater good. As opposed to the worthless, no-skilled loser writing term papers about shit nobody cares about. At least if they were term papers about network infrastructure analysis or something else targeted at the job market and not Cicero or the Federalist Papers, that's one thing. But if it's bullshit for a psych degree or some other basket-weaving nonsense that leads to McDonald's and more McDonald's, then what's the use. Really, what's the use. We don't need no education. We don't need no Fryolator temperature control.

The game is rigged, and it's over. It's over for those of us who put a burden on others. It's over for those of us who contribute "creatively" but not economically. It's over for those of us who aren't Queen Elizabeth, Betty White, the Emanuel Brothers, the Jonas Brothers, or some computer genius who creates the next Mario Brothers. It's over for those of us who can write poetry but not Java Script. It's over for those of us who can play Canon in D but not program in C. It's over for those of us who can compare and contrast Dracula to Anne Rice, but who'd suck as phlebotomists. And it's high time those of us who recognize we are a burden -- people like me -- do what's necessary to alleviate some of that burden for those who do, and can, contribute. Otherwise we're -- I'm -- just dead weight, an albatross around everyone's neck. No, give me (and others) liberty: give me death. Ich bin lebensunwertens leben.

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K&R for embarrassment purposes! This should have more exposure! TheNutcracker Nov 2014 #1
I remember when this story first broke. I didn't know he was Rahm's brother. kcr Nov 2014 #29
Yes. For those who said hey! I (or my friend) am 75 and still golfing! djean111 Nov 2014 #2
In other words he thinks people are here to work for the system and dilby Nov 2014 #3
I think it's funny. enlightenment Nov 2014 #4
Why is someone so "disconnected" advising the President on health care policy? TheNutcracker Nov 2014 #6
He's not doing that anymore. enlightenment Nov 2014 #18
^^ THIS^^ Plus his bizarre little swipe at his brother seems to have inspired him here, as if bettyellen Nov 2014 #16
Yeah....I caught a lot of cognitive dissonance in his words.. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #26
Did anyone other than me actually read that Atlantic article? beerandjesus Nov 2014 #5
Again, why then are the bat shit crazies advising the President? TheNutcracker Nov 2014 #7
'Bat shit crazy'? That's a kneejerk reaction if I ever saw one muriel_volestrangler Nov 2014 #10
Well, no idea about OP's view, but Emanuel thinks it should be illegal suffragette Nov 2014 #19
I was thinking about whether the thread starter wanted the person themselves prosecuted muriel_volestrangler Nov 2014 #22
I read that as TheNutcracker being concerned at the influence Emanuel has on policy here suffragette Nov 2014 #25
Why should it remain illegal? Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #23
You completely misread my post and reversed the views of myself and Emanuel suffragette Nov 2014 #24
"meaningless" is subject to interpretation treestar Nov 2014 #39
Sounds like a No. beerandjesus Nov 2014 #11
But they're OUR batshit crazies as opposed to THEIR batshit crazies. hobbit709 Nov 2014 #17
Wow, just a few weeks ago people on this board were all for this. Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #27
There was a lot of discussion about it when it was originally published 2 months ago muriel_volestrangler Nov 2014 #8
Thanks for that. Seemed strange that this would be coming up now. beerandjesus Nov 2014 #12
I did. enlightenment Nov 2014 #20
I think most people are misunderstanding what he actually said. alarimer Nov 2014 #9
I define denial of medical treatment as torture. Downwinder Nov 2014 #35
I don't think someone else should decide for the 90 year old treestar Nov 2014 #40
Sounds death panel-ish. nt Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #43
"Hope I die before I get old" ~ The Who said it best. aikoaiko Nov 2014 #13
No; they said it glibly, cynically, for money. Do you think Daltry would trade places with Moon now? WinkyDink Nov 2014 #30
Well he give the average Joe 75 more years of value then Rahm does. Rahm dones't think most Exultant Democracy Nov 2014 #14
At 73 years of age I tend to agree with him on much in this article. For instance, too many people jwirr Nov 2014 #15
More BS from the "third way" - TBF Nov 2014 #21
I don't mind doing it. Why shouldn't I? Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #31
... TBF Nov 2014 #32
This is a very deranged and dangerous man. "I live life by the data." I don't accept his premise: WinkyDink Nov 2014 #28
Exactly - and to a society TBF Nov 2014 #33
Life is imprimus. Society merely facilitates Life. Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #44
He is a product of the times, we live in a Throw Way society. Rex Nov 2014 #34
Classic Republican thought on the subject of aging. If you can't produce ladjf Nov 2014 #36
His views (known for some time) and his involvement as an advisor....... WillowTree Nov 2014 #37
Thanks for making seniors more Faux pas Nov 2014 #38
Being described as a "trained oncologist" treestar Nov 2014 #41
I would hope he would TBF Nov 2014 #42
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