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64. They probably have the votes to override a veto

Wed Nov 12, 2014, 11:08 PM

Nov 2014

The decision now is what looks better, the President getting overridden by a Democratic or Republican controlled Senate?

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BREAKING: Lame Duck Senate Will Vote To Approve Keystone Pipeline [View all] Cali_Democrat Nov 2014 OP

What a completely, utterly worthless fucking political party villager Nov 2014 #1

So true. 840high Nov 2014 #27

I hear that the House and Senate are racing to see which one can vote it through first. razorman Nov 2014 #36

Well said. Octafish Nov 2014 #60

Oh. My. God. riderinthestorm Nov 2014 #2

Gosh, Mary Landrieu will almost CERTAINLY win her election now! hatrack Nov 2014 #3

Yes! I'd bet my last penny on it! City Lights Nov 2014 #14

Outstanding! MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 #4

Literally - Xipe Totec Nov 2014 #9

Another nail in the coffin newfie11 Nov 2014 #5

But climate change isn't the problem with Keystone Recursion Nov 2014 #7

+1 nt arely staircase Nov 2014 #20

It is part of the problem inasmuch as tar sands extraction is a major polluter Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2014 #23

Canada is going to drill every barrel it can whether it goes out by train or pipe Recursion Nov 2014 #26

Then Canada can build it's own pipelines across Canada, and its own refineries Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2014 #31

Far from it! I'm sure adding 830,000 bbl/day to output capacity won't change emissions at all! hatrack Nov 2014 #28

Those 830,000 bbl/day will enter the marketplace ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #40

So, 830,000 barrels/day /42 (roughly - gallons per barrel) * 22.38 (pounds carbon/gallon) . . . hatrack Nov 2014 #55

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #62

No, actually, much wouldn't reach market without the pipeline NickB79 Nov 2014 #77

Is that your opinion, ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #82

Ah yeah SammyWinstonJack Nov 2014 #6

But they can't take time to approve the Attorney General nomination? Blue_In_AK Nov 2014 #8

Senate Democrats have lost their way. earthside Nov 2014 #13

That was my first thought. They claim they won't have time until "next year" BlueJazz Nov 2014 #19

Unfortunately G_j Nov 2014 #10

And POTUS will sign it with glee. notrightatall Nov 2014 #11

Maybe, maybe not. Cha Nov 2014 #15

want to bet? nt arely staircase Nov 2014 #22

Unfortunately, yes, I will take that bet. notrightatall Nov 2014 #29

ok arely staircase Nov 2014 #32

OK. notrightatall Nov 2014 #33

hope you are wrong arely staircase Nov 2014 #37

You're gonna lose this bet, hate to say... alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #44

I bet he kicks the can down the road arely staircase Nov 2014 #46

It will pass, and he will sign it alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #47

It is doubtful that a pocket veto would be available to the WH. tritsofme Nov 2014 #74

Obama has been kicking and obstructing this since he took office in 2009. freshwest Nov 2014 #86

+1 nt arely staircase Nov 2014 #89

I want a piece of that action as well davidpdx Nov 2014 #87

I'm so disgusted with these assholes... Ilsa Nov 2014 #12

This isn't about spineless democrats, it's about democrats lob1 Nov 2014 #57

So get a hold of your Senators and Call and email Harry Reid Cha Nov 2014 #16

yeah that'll do it BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #18

yeah, better to complain on the internet arely staircase Nov 2014 #24

Same outcome BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #52

whatever floats your boat arely staircase Nov 2014 #54

So you're going to blame voters again? Marr Nov 2014 #45

So we don't get an AG confirmation but we get this bullshit. No wonder minorities didn't turn out. craigmatic Nov 2014 #17

What the Hell - the pipeline passes through all "Red" states Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2014 #21

That was a quick surrender. Can't wait to see what else they want to give up neverforget Nov 2014 #25

Now, now! Let' use our "bipartisan" voices, shall we? hatrack Nov 2014 #30

Hey! PAProgressive28 Nov 2014 #48

Not being forced into law Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2014 #58

I vote for Democrats and this is what I get? procon Nov 2014 #34

I think most Democrats dont see what the big deal is with this pipeline. DCBob Nov 2014 #35

Are we, the American people, going to benefit from the harvest? snappyturtle Nov 2014 #53

Maybe they'll vote no, and then filibuster later! It could happen. Zorra Nov 2014 #38

Fucking spineless assholes... truebrit71 Nov 2014 #39

Landrieu is toast, even approving the Keystone Pipeline wouldn't get her reelected davidpdx Nov 2014 #88

I kpete Nov 2014 #41

FWIW LiberalElite Nov 2014 #42

Nobody objects that it would be dishonest for departing members to vote on this, like AG alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #43

Completely irrelevent. They have no power to approve it or disapprove it. Darb Nov 2014 #49

Do they really think this will save her seat? PAProgressive28 Nov 2014 #50

Can you imagine if it's close, and they Don't take a vote on this? Calista241 Nov 2014 #93

Not to worry. Obama will surely veto it. Won't he? Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #51

They probably have the votes to override a veto madville Nov 2014 #64

Maddow Ripping the Senate Democrats tonight. earthside Nov 2014 #56

Express Yourself. Half-Century Man Nov 2014 #59

Thank goodness for President Obama bigwillq Nov 2014 #61

Only about 13 Democrats will need to jump ship madville Nov 2014 #69

If they jump ship, they should just continue jumping to the other party (nt) bigwillq Nov 2014 #72

And let the Republicans have 70 seats ? Yieks! yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #83

Veto, for fuck's sake. VETO! Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #63

That's the problem here, a veto likely will be overridden madville Nov 2014 #65

I really can't see an override happening Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #66

They will only potentially need 13 Democrats madville Nov 2014 #67

The same Congress that passes the law has to override the veto alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #68

This will surely get passed in the new Congress madville Nov 2014 #71

That's certainly true alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #73

I don't think the Administration's madville Nov 2014 #76

Well, we heard from a million people that Clinton only signed DADT because his veto would be alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #78

They couldn't even wait until officially becoming the minority to capitulate? LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #70

Well, the keystone states want this taught_me_patience Nov 2014 #75

Stock up on potable water. nt silvershadow Nov 2014 #79

And they wonder why people didn't bother to vote. nt dflprincess Nov 2014 #80

if there is so much sweetapogee Nov 2014 #81

Obama jalan48 Nov 2014 #84

I don't think most people appreciate... Gumboot Nov 2014 #85

Kick for the Quislings LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #90

Our Kabuki Democracy at its best! marmar Nov 2014 #91

They've really let it all hang out in the last 14 years. We should have an award show in their honor adirondacker Nov 2014 #95

So they are going to give up the Keystone Pipeline without getting anything in return? krawhitham Nov 2014 #92

That's the difference between the Republicans and Democrats, I suppose deutsey Nov 2014 #94