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12. Of course. How ridiculous is it to posit: "if indeed they can suffer"

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Thu Nov 13, 2014, 08:19 AM

Nov 2014

how about a straight white male who has been abused growing up? Or a straight white male who is mentally ill?

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Can a straight, white male liberal ever truly suffer at the hands of our culture? [View all] Shankapotomus Nov 2014 OP

Depends on how much money he has. n/t djean111 Nov 2014 #1

Here's a curve ball for you Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #8

Well, IMO, almost all disabled people are discriminated against, no matter what demographic. djean111 Nov 2014 #10

How can they deal better with discrimination? Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #13

I thought that is what I said, really. A rich person can deal with the "physical" stuff, like djean111 Nov 2014 #21

Indeed. See my posts #49 and #72 downthread. hifiguy Nov 2014 #82

That's a little off topic isn't it? brush Nov 2014 #102

Yes but not if you're a straight, white, male Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #105

That's what I mean about having the option of "keeping his politics to himself" brush Nov 2014 #106

No demographic group is immune to suffering -- WhiteAndNerdy Nov 2014 #2

I intentionally left out those other labels Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #4

Thanks. WhiteAndNerdy Nov 2014 #5

One of my uncles had terrible problems with alcohol, and his problems were well known thoughout amandabeech Nov 2014 #76

I'm sorry about your uncle. :( WhiteAndNerdy Nov 2014 #91

Thank you! amandabeech Nov 2014 #92

I'll pass. I generally ignore the ID politics threads. Smarmie Doofus Nov 2014 #3

I pass as well, and am a LESWIM. These discussions Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #17

What does that mean? nt brush Nov 2014 #104

LESWIRM: Liberal Straight White Racist Male -- a common Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #109

bookmark for self n/t Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #6

You forgot right handed whistler162 Nov 2014 #7

I'm a straight white male UglyGreed Nov 2014 #9

Couldn't have been a better reply Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #14

Good I'm glad UglyGreed Nov 2014 #19

Stupid poll, sorry. Way too vague. Ever? That's an automatic Yes Tom Rinaldo Nov 2014 #11

I intentionally made it easy Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #15

Of course. How ridiculous is it to posit: "if indeed they can suffer" cali Nov 2014 #12

You saw through my simple ruse Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #16

Of course, but they are statistically less likely to do so than ... surrealAmerican Nov 2014 #18

Are they cis or trans? AngryAmish Nov 2014 #20

They could be Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #22

how about a straight, white liberal male who also suffers a physical or mental disability? Douglas Carpenter Nov 2014 #23

One could even argue, Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #24

Your question indicates how much you don't understand this issue. gollygee Nov 2014 #25

My question was merely posed Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #27

Oh, then this is a strawman gollygee Nov 2014 #28

Whoops Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #31

On your edit JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #26

Right Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #29

Or do they magnify it JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #34

But I'm not talking about Conservative white, straight, males Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #37

And as liberal white men JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #39

I agree Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #40

But they are also your enemy JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #43

Coming back to say - I've enjoyed this convo with you JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #61

Not sure who at DU is expecting that of you Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #63

I hope everyone reads this thread and takes away one key point you made JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #65

"It doesn't come at the hands of the 'others'." Yes it can, sadly. AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #51

Society wide - it doesn't - JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #60

I don't deny the vast influence of the corrupt .1% at all, btw. AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #69

Boo fucking YA. bettyellen Nov 2014 #110

Given your edit, those poll options make absolutely no sense. nt RedCappedBandit Nov 2014 #30

perhaps this reply to a similar question Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #32

Who exactly are you trying to catch out with this poll? Sheldon Cooper Nov 2014 #33

I don't know Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #35

Btw, Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #38

Is this a scientific poll? LOL snooper2 Nov 2014 #36

Well, it is on the intertubes, hifiguy Nov 2014 #54

Let's ask Jack and Bobby Kennedy. Oh � wait ... 11 Bravo Nov 2014 #41

yeah, but they were rich so Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #42

Bump Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #44

they can suffer as much but not because of systematic oppression La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2014 #45

That much is true, at least. AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #53

"White folks can be the victims of racism as much as anyone..." YoungDemCA Nov 2014 #67

You may want to re-read what I said in context....no offense. AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #70

Must be hard to have most of your posts misunderstood XemaSab Nov 2014 #93

Is the "ability" to suffer somehow important? Recursion Nov 2014 #46

Of course. dawg Nov 2014 #47

Yes, if he has a disability KamaAina Nov 2014 #48

Given certain conditions, yes indeed hifiguy Nov 2014 #49

What are your thoughts on the possibility Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #72

The counselor who first diagnosed me hifiguy Nov 2014 #77

Could it be you just have more advanced activity preferences Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #78

Maybe, but it makes it very hard to get along in a shallow society. hifiguy Nov 2014 #108

Your interests seem similiar to mine Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #111

Most liberals do not, hold any (negative) preconceived notions against SWMs, as far as I can tell. AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #50

And such as? XemaSab Nov 2014 #94

... Kali Nov 2014 #113

Poverty is the big equalizer TBF Nov 2014 #52

Socioeconomic status is a huge factor, and you've ignored it. Avalux Nov 2014 #55

i'm not really understanding , Right Wing racists can suffer also, everyone can suffer in this JI7 Nov 2014 #56

They're certainly abused by the people they elect to represent them. Erose999 Nov 2014 #59

Being white, straight, and male you're sometimes eyed with... not necessarily suspicion, but Erose999 Nov 2014 #57

Even a straight white liberal male will suffer under a Republican or Third Way regime. Louisiana1976 Nov 2014 #58

Everyone will suffer if we let investment bankers call the shots. Rex Nov 2014 #62

No this is a straight up No Kalidurga Nov 2014 #64

Try telling that to all the straight white males who were forced to become birth fathers without StevieM Nov 2014 #80

That's a whole nuther issue Kalidurga Nov 2014 #87

Exactly. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #66

Many people hold all homeless people at the same level of contempt. lpbk2713 Nov 2014 #68

Sure a shit. He just needs a mental disorder. HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Nov 2014 #73

If that's the way you conduct yourself on a discussion board Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #74

Of course an individual can. That does not mean there are no institutionalized biases though. uppityperson Nov 2014 #75

It is "can A" with a caveat Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #81

Here was your question randys1 Nov 2014 #79

What if they are disabled? Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #83

Still not the same and it isn't based on a history of lynching you for being disabled etc randys1 Nov 2014 #84

No doubt Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #85

You know what makes me angry now that you bring it up, these ADA lawyers randys1 Nov 2014 #86

I don't have an inclination to influence anyone's opinion on this Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #88

Cool, I only asked because I think my problem with these ADA lawyers may be wrongheaded randys1 Nov 2014 #89

Sure LostInAnomie Nov 2014 #90

Of course 76% of white liberal males think they can suffer as much as anyone else. kwassa Nov 2014 #95

I do not understand. betsuni Nov 2014 #96

Example of why this question is important Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #99

What do you think your issue is? kwassa Nov 2014 #100

I have other issues that complicate the matter Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #101

Everyone is a special case, but everyone is also part of a group. kwassa Nov 2014 #107

Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #103

No Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #97

Not really, in my life experience when a bad event happens other opportunities IdiocracyTheNewNorm Nov 2014 #98

Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #112

Poverty goes hand in hand with racism to demean and degrade all of us Tsiyu Nov 2014 #114

Do you mean, can being a straight white male be in itself disadvantageous, or can straight white LeftishBrit Nov 2014 #115