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jeff47

(26,549 posts)
23. Well, let's look at what actually happens.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 12:15 PM
Nov 2014
Justifiable homicide by private citizens, 2006-2010.
In 2010, there were 232 cases where a private citizen killed a felon in the act of committing that felony using a firearm. So that 232 includes your theoretical rapist, as well as every other felony. For the sake of this discussion, let's assume every single one of those 232 are women shooting men trying to rape them - that massive overcounting will help correct for woundings.

Forcible Rape:
There were an estimated at 84,767 forcible rapes reported to law enforcement in 2010.


So...we need to allow people to have guns, because it stopped 232 rapes out of 84,767. Or 0.27%

Given the 8,775 murders in 2010 by firearms, that doesn't seem like a good trade-off.

I eagerly await your indignant "you wouldn't feel that way if it was you getting raped" reply. Alternatively, you could go with the "banning guns wouldn't stop any of those murders" reply, whereafter I get to point to statistics from Australia showing it vastly reduced them.

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Unfortunately, gunners believe Noah is just price we must pay so yahoos can keep their gunz. Hoyt Nov 2014 #1
I guess rape and assault are the price to be paid for your fear of guns. Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #3
Weak sauce. Darb Nov 2014 #7
Truthfully, women probably have more reason to have a gun than men. Hoyt Nov 2014 #9
" There are plenty of ways to defend yourself without a gun" - I'm rather fond of martial arts Veilex Nov 2014 #19
Martial arts doesnt help everybody Travis_0004 Nov 2014 #25
Good for you. I'm disable and can't walk 10 feet, let Flatulo Nov 2014 #33
Women are not well served by having guns knightmaar Nov 2014 #20
I definitely agree with that. Hoyt Nov 2014 #22
In other words, sanity! mountain grammy Nov 2014 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author hack89 Nov 2014 #12
Well, let's look at what actually happens. jeff47 Nov 2014 #23
A patriarchal culture facilitates rape. Better to devalue patriarchy than value guns. nt valerief Nov 2014 #26
Gee have gun no rape. Well maybe we need to upaloopa Nov 2014 #30
Without very intense training, a gun in a purse isn't much "protection" against a random rapist. hunter Nov 2014 #32
Correct alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #4
The 2A is not the problem as it still allows strict gun control hack89 Nov 2014 #2
What are your thoughts about Peruta? badtoworse Nov 2014 #6
I'll tell you my thoughts, Darb Nov 2014 #8
What an erudite response. badtoworse Nov 2014 #14
Good ruling. Concealed carry will still be strictly regulated hack89 Nov 2014 #15
I agree. badtoworse Nov 2014 #16
Shhh... sarisataka Nov 2014 #17
Truth to insanity. 99Forever Nov 2014 #5
Amen....n/t Hepburn Nov 2014 #13
+1 Johonny Nov 2014 #18
Yes. mountain grammy Nov 2014 #31
But, but, but .... Scuba Nov 2014 #10
K&r abelenkpe Nov 2014 #11
This topic always makes me think of these two songs Veilex Nov 2014 #21
A Quaker who doesn't like guns. Indydem Nov 2014 #24
Ignoring the first half of a Constitutional Amendment... yallerdawg Nov 2014 #27
Moi aussi. Deny and Shred Nov 2014 #34
Waiting for the gungeon's arrival. upaloopa Nov 2014 #28
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