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ballyhoo

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94. Well, then, we disagree. But, then, I talk to real people
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 01:51 PM
Nov 2014

every day, which I will do until the end of the year because of my work. Many Democrats I talked to voted Republicans for the first time ever, including my next door neighbor who has been a Democrat for 68 years. I voted Democrat simply because that is what I do. I had absolutely no interest in my vote. The biggest issue why people voted Republican has not been mentioned here, and I will not be the first to do so. I personally do not believe there will be another Democratic congress in my lifetime or actually a Democratic President, if you include Hillary Clinton. Iraq was the US's Parthia, and Obama just did what he was told to do by the War Machine moneyed Fascists. As far as "would I be more or less like to vote for John McCain if you knew he had fathered a black child" being used as a voting strategy? You may be right, but my mind would never consider anything so trite with respect to voting. My mind asks before I enter the voting booth "Has the Party I am about to vote for gone against my core beliefs that made me fight to protect them in a war long ago?" I don't care if McCain screwed a beaver in the Crystal Cathedral. I have missed one presidential call since Ike. I presume that accuracy rating will continue for the last pick.

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SOrry Robbins Nov 2014 #1
Yes, I don't want Bernie Sanders running simply to get her to SAY she is for certain issues in the sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #134
He and Warren and Grayson are the only bright spots I see as the way forward for the party. silvershadow Nov 2014 #2
If warren doesn't run or bernie loses Robbins Nov 2014 #4
"Liberal Independent" ReRe Nov 2014 #77
I'm not sure. Would it be called the Lie (LI) party? nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #109
Yeah, that acronym wouldn't work, would it?? ReRe Nov 2014 #111
On reflection I kinda like Liberal Independent Party or LIP. "If it's lip you want you came to the rhett o rick Nov 2014 #114
That's a Duzzy! ReRe Nov 2014 #128
Ah, you're such a romantic. I was thinking something more like rhett o rick Nov 2014 #131
The word "lip"... ReRe Nov 2014 #132
What about this lady? JRLeft Nov 2014 #5
Barbara Lee is one gutsy lady. RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #30
Oh yes, and there are others. I should have said "few" in my opener instead of "only". silvershadow Nov 2014 #45
If Bernie seriously runs, it's going to excite a lot of people. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #36
Barbara Boxer is free now. valerief Nov 2014 #71
liberals get a fair hearing? rurallib Nov 2014 #3
What a primary debate it would be! scarystuffyo Nov 2014 #6
With all the crap we're hearing today from Harry Reid ... earthside Nov 2014 #7
sanders is NOT a democrat nt msongs Nov 2014 #8
Neither are the "Democrats" I've been listening to. I'm sure he will change from an "I", don't know monmouth4 Nov 2014 #10
+1 JRLeft Nov 2014 #12
+1. nt silvershadow Nov 2014 #47
+1 beerandjesus Nov 2014 #59
+1 TRoN33 Nov 2014 #64
what they are saying is Sanders has to join the Democratic party if he wants to be a serious contender, still_one Nov 2014 #72
I can't find how one "joins the Democratic Party" MNBrewer Nov 2014 #93
ROFL!! Howler Nov 2014 #76
Hope he does change to Democrat. JDPriestly Nov 2014 #79
+1 MissDeeds Nov 2014 #86
+1 Couldn't agree more! B Calm Nov 2014 #89
Would that Democrats had a tenth of Sanders' courage. [n/t] Maedhros Nov 2014 #13
Indeed +1 Veilex Nov 2014 #19
Amen. polichick Nov 2014 #27
More of a democrat than a lot of Democratic party members Scootaloo Nov 2014 #14
+1 Veilex Nov 2014 #20
+1. nt silvershadow Nov 2014 #46
Agree completely MissDeeds Nov 2014 #88
Having a "D" beside your name doesn't make you a democrat either. Veilex Nov 2014 #18
so you have a definition of who can be a Democrat or not? Hillary is for Social Security and not still_one Nov 2014 #53
Who needs a definition when the evidence is in front of your eyes? Veilex Nov 2014 #55
Good work on doing your DD. We actually need to ballyhoo Nov 2014 #73
It could be worse than another term under Bush Junior... Veilex Nov 2014 #137
Hillary Clinton emits zero excitement from me. Zero. Eridenus Nov 2014 #125
^This kind of thinking really frosts my butt. NorthCarolina Nov 2014 #39
+1 Veilex Nov 2014 #56
Cool your jets... ReRe Nov 2014 #80
I hear you, BUT NorthCarolina Nov 2014 #119
it's like labeling a food "all natural" G_j Nov 2014 #133
Well, list the Democrats that have announced they are running then. nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #50
a small point that many here like to ignore. The only way Bernie has a chance is if he becomes a still_one Nov 2014 #52
Why do you people keep posting this nonsense? ieoeja Nov 2014 #62
Until he actually joins as a Democrat what you say is nonsense still_one Nov 2014 #69
What if the Democrats don't do the right thing, and a whole bunch of us leave the party? silvershadow Nov 2014 #107
Then the republicans will win. Bernie is pragmatic I believe and run as a Democrat if he runs still_one Nov 2014 #110
Oh, the SCOTUS. Hadn't entered my thinking for this conversation. Dang it. Why? silvershadow Nov 2014 #122
Hell, the court is almost gone anyway still_one Nov 2014 #124
That it is. And it all started with the coup. nt silvershadow Nov 2014 #126
Yes, it will be your fault if you and others defect en masse from the Democratic Party YoungDemCA Nov 2014 #138
What makes you so sure there are more of you than there are of us? In that case, it would be silvershadow Nov 2014 #140
The only way they can roil his campaign is if he is dependent upon them in some manner. NorthCarolina Nov 2014 #123
My point is that he obviously *is* running to be the Democratic nominee. ieoeja Nov 2014 #130
You are as right as rain. He is the best of the Democrats ballyhoo Nov 2014 #66
He has said he is considering becoming a Democrat, but until that happens it is unknown still_one Nov 2014 #70
Sanders becoming viable depends on that and what bills Obama signs in ballyhoo Nov 2014 #78
I think Bernie will become a Democrat if he officially runs. He knows the score. I disagree with still_one Nov 2014 #81
Well, then, we disagree. But, then, I talk to real people ballyhoo Nov 2014 #94
I have a die-hard Republican brother... ReRe Nov 2014 #82
I would bet your brother has no problem with choice, environmental issues, or civil rights. Which still_one Nov 2014 #84
Nope. You are so wrong... ReRe Nov 2014 #97
that was so long ago. redruddyred Nov 2014 #115
You're right... ReRe Nov 2014 #129
Couldn't he run as an independent in the Democratic primaries? MNBrewer Nov 2014 #95
Much more of a Democrat than Hillary LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #91
Yes. Among several other strong qualifications. n/t jtuck004 Nov 2014 #96
In at post 8 Capt. Obvious Nov 2014 #105
If I had to leave the warmth and comfort of Florida (78 right now) and go north to knock on doors monmouth4 Nov 2014 #9
And Professional Election Loser Tad Devine is running his campaign bluestateguy Nov 2014 #11
Bernie would likely get my vote. nt Ilsa Nov 2014 #15
Hillary's campaign rhetoric would move a bit left - that is all that would happen. n/t djean111 Nov 2014 #16
Indeed. Veilex Nov 2014 #21
I'll vote for the man...and I'm serious too. nt NorthCarolina Nov 2014 #17
Senator Sanders will be our next President. 99Forever Nov 2014 #22
I don't pay any attention to political predictions at DU anymore since I was assured totodeinhere Nov 2014 #28
I think you'll find . . . markpkessinger Nov 2014 #32
Sorry, but you misunderstand what I am saying. 99Forever Nov 2014 #48
Will the corporate-owned M$M and Dems even give him a shot though? Dopers_Greed Nov 2014 #23
Probably not. People like him and Warren will probably find it very difficult if not impossible cstanleytech Nov 2014 #33
I'd love to see him run and would work for him... ms liberty Nov 2014 #24
"he could pull her in his direction" WHO HERE BELIEVES a liberal opponent would change Hillary's NorthCarolina Nov 2014 #25
Agreed. The idea that HRC being forced to give lip service to progressive ideas is worth Nay Nov 2014 #83
Historically primary challenges from the left have moved other candidates to the right Recursion Nov 2014 #26
that could work in our favor tho. redruddyred Nov 2014 #116
On to GT with this thread! Old Nick Nov 2014 #29
Best news I've heard Duval Nov 2014 #31
And mine. nt DocMac Nov 2014 #37
just do it. peoli Nov 2014 #34
He could use time as an advantage to the flood of money, Phlem Nov 2014 #35
Lord knows this nation needs Bernie Sanders, in a BIG way. 99th_Monkey Nov 2014 #38
His message is strong. The question is whether he is. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #40
I'm going to say it: ReRe Nov 2014 #85
But I don't see Bernie Sanders making her cry. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #135
I knew that would get a reply... ReRe Nov 2014 #139
I hope he joins the Democratic Party so he can run in the primaries LeftInTX Nov 2014 #41
I'm already "campaigning" for him. He'd actually be a real President, instead of the Wall St. puppet Zorra Nov 2014 #42
Better build a "Bernie's Army" then because he will be nothing without support. glinda Nov 2014 #43
I'd rather it be called "Bernie's America" than anything remotely militant-sounding, like "Army". nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #51
I hear ya. glinda Nov 2014 #57
How about "Bernie's TEAM?" n/t liam_laddie Nov 2014 #67
If he makes it into the Democratic Primaries I will vote for him Kalidurga Nov 2014 #44
I'm All In With Bernie colsohlibgal Nov 2014 #49
REC, dammit, REC! Old Nick Nov 2014 #54
If Bernie doesn't run AND win newfie11 Nov 2014 #58
Which is what happens if Hillary Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #65
Exactly nt newfie11 Nov 2014 #108
kick woo me with science Nov 2014 #60
We need a full throated populist message to reach people Politicub Nov 2014 #61
I'm serious about vote for Sanders. TRoN33 Nov 2014 #63
Sanders will be 75 years old in 2016. He could (and should) LeftinOH Nov 2014 #68
Well, we need to turn it from a "shallow country"... ReRe Nov 2014 #92
Sanders defies age marions ghost Nov 2014 #102
Of course he is. n/t ReRe Nov 2014 #106
75 is the new 55. valerief Nov 2014 #74
excellent! Howler Nov 2014 #75
He's got my support! B Calm Nov 2014 #87
Sen. Sanders has my full support MissDeeds Nov 2014 #90
Meanwhile the Republicans plan on a "Guns & Butter" campaign.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #98
Kick! BeanMusical Nov 2014 #99
Happy to be able to Rec Babel_17 Nov 2014 #100
If he runs as an independent or thrid party, the republicans will win the White House n/t liberal N proud Nov 2014 #101
Our party is voting next week on the Keystone Pipeline. . B Calm Nov 2014 #112
Still if he runs, it will divide the electorate allowing the republican to win liberal N proud Nov 2014 #117
It was a Democrat that cast the deciding vote on Fracking here in North Carolina. NorthCarolina Nov 2014 #136
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Nov 2014 #103
Voting fo Senator Sanders hotrod0808 Nov 2014 #104
to the point marions ghost Nov 2014 #113
+10000000.............. G_j Nov 2014 #121
Does critiquing Hillary pull Hillary to the Left? daredtowork Nov 2014 #118
I will phonebank my ass off for Sanders Marrah_G Nov 2014 #120
Bernie is not about appeasing democrats and making hillary listen! TheNutcracker Nov 2014 #127
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