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LondonReign2

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53. I provided multiple policy points as evidence

Thu Nov 13, 2014, 02:44 PM

Nov 2014

If I disagree with Obama on TPP, I'm called a racist
If I disagree with Obama on NSA spying, I'm called a racist
If I disagree with Obama on chained CPI, I'm called a racist
If I disagree with Obama on tax cuts for the wealthy, I'm called a racist
If I disagree with Obama on Syria, I'm called a racist
If I disagree with Obama stuffing his cabinets with Republicans, I'm called a racist
On now, apparently if I disagree with Obama on the size of the defense budget AND also don't specifically say I disagree with every person who also voted for the same budget, whether they could affect it or not, I'm called a racist.

It is a shorthand, and incredibly offensive, way to deflect any and all criticism without actually having to debate the very thing being criticized, namely the policies.

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How bad will the DU freak-out be if/when Warren has to support a party vote? [View all] Recursion Nov 2014 OP

Hopefully, we'll hold her feet to the fire and call her on it. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #1

Sigh Recursion Nov 2014 #3

It is the responsibility of the people in a democracy to hold public servants accountable. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #7

Of course it is Recursion Nov 2014 #8

Because...? Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #11

I don't need to explain to anyone my pounding of my head against my desk Recursion Nov 2014 #12

Paying attention to politicans has that effect. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #16

Isn't it sad to watch people play concern troll? Rex Nov 2014 #44

You have that right Android3.14 Nov 2014 #52

Yes it is, unfortunately too many think being rude and obnoxious LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #29

This bigwillq Nov 2014 #90

o gawd not the feet to the fire. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #4

"Has to capitulate". What happens if she doesn't? Torture? Embarrassment? Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #9

... bigwillq Nov 2014 #89

Warren has voted for things like our massive defense budget Cali_Democrat Nov 2014 #2

Granted, but, if she takes this leadership position, there will be a whip vote, probably even in Recursion Nov 2014 #5

The party needs her to LWolf Nov 2014 #88

Yes, any criticism of Obama's policies LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #6

Warren votes for our $700 billion defense budget, there's nary a peep on DU Cali_Democrat Nov 2014 #15

Exactly. The silence is deafening, isn't it LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #31

That's because we're racists LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #35

It would be far more effective if you provided an alternate explanation. jeff47 Nov 2014 #45

I provided multiple policy points as evidence LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #53

You provided multiple, irrelevant points. Because the issue is the difference jeff47 Nov 2014 #57

Disagree, completely LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #59

And raging against getting called a racist is exactly what the troll wants you to do. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2014 #62

Well that was lame AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #17

I alerted on your disgusting post. Implying that liberal Democrats are racist Zorra Nov 2014 #27

And here's your results. jeff47 Nov 2014 #43

Nothing wrong with implying that is they have not thrown Warren under the bus treestar Nov 2014 #76

Alerting on that post Capt. Obvious Nov 2014 #79

The more yer agin' her, the more I'm for her. Iggo Nov 2014 #10

I like her. Recursion Nov 2014 #21

Compromising her just might be the point Deny and Shred Nov 2014 #46

And so here's where I say "And so it begins", again Recursion Nov 2014 #47

Which Party? She was a Republican for much longer than she's been a Democrat, she's voted for Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #13

And so it begins (nt) Recursion Nov 2014 #14

What begins? AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #20

No, it's not: we don't primary our right wing; they do primary their left wing Recursion Nov 2014 #23

For that matter, it's not a bad argument; Bluenorthwest is right about that Recursion Nov 2014 #25

Of course we primary our right wing AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #26

Well, we don't do so effectively... who was the last Democrat to lose to a primary challenge from Recursion Nov 2014 #28

Yet... AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #36

No... that's certainly... true... Recursion Nov 2014 #48

Ok, I'll play. Deny and Shred Nov 2014 #51

That doesn't happen in either party; they support incumbents. Recursion Nov 2014 #54

"Unelectibly liberal" AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #55

And yet liberal/progressive candidates lose outside of liberal/progressive districts Recursion Nov 2014 #56

Give examples AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #58

You did: voters support liberal policies but elect a conservative majority Recursion Nov 2014 #60

Specific examples please AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #64

Easy: Arkansas, this past election Recursion Nov 2014 #68

Pryor didn't run on progressive ideas AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #70

I hear crickets n/t Oilwellian Nov 2014 #73

Ah, so the mythical AR progressive candidate would have won in a landslide? (nt) Recursion Nov 2014 #75

I note you feel a need to use the term, "Landslide" AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #77

Nope, even just by a little bit Recursion Nov 2014 #78

But the minimum wage won in a landslide mythology Nov 2014 #81

Swarney (G) was on the ballot. He got less than 2% of the vote. (nt) Recursion Nov 2014 #84

The ones who are confused are the ones who think that raising the minimum wage Art_from_Ark Nov 2014 #94

My contention is that AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #95

The Pryor example isn't really the best onenote Nov 2014 #85

As a ballot initiative, increasing the minimum wage can transcend ideologies Art_from_Ark Nov 2014 #92

Ooh, ooh! can I play? brooklynite Nov 2014 #97

I have no idea what your post has to do with mine Art_from_Ark Nov 2014 #98

2012: Cartwright defeating Blue Dog Tim Holden onenote Nov 2014 #82

You know, I was including Barr, which isn't right Recursion Nov 2014 #83

What 'begins'? I've never been a fan of her or any other Reaganite. Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #38

I wasn't saying you had (I'm serious about that) Recursion Nov 2014 #42

the same can be said of many people here noiretextatique Nov 2014 #93

Getting all excited already are we? Rex Nov 2014 #18

I for one will respect her intelligence and know that she did what she felt needed to be done. jwirr Nov 2014 #19

I'm struggling to understand the phrase "has to support". Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #22

I don't "have to" pay my student loans. Recursion Nov 2014 #24

OK, let me ask another way. Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #33

She loses the leadership position she just got (nt) Recursion Nov 2014 #34

So if she doesn't vote in some hypothetical vile right wing nonsense AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #39

Right, and I agree with your statement above that it only compromises her LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #40

OK, so she doesn't "have to" vote the way they want her to. Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #41

Which hurts her, how? jeff47 Nov 2014 #65

Well, we'll see, won't we? (nt) Recursion Nov 2014 #66

Well, if they've been paying attention they shouldn't be surprised frazzled Nov 2014 #30

You know that and I know that Recursion Nov 2014 #32

It may break a few hearts. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #37

Set a few scalps on fire.... nt msanthrope Nov 2014 #72

Thwt too. n/t hrmjustin Nov 2014 #74

Depending on the subject, I don't think there'll be one. Which would kind of disprove the whole Marr Nov 2014 #49

We'll see Recursion Nov 2014 #50

Not 1/2 as bad as the meltdown if Warren endorses Clinton over Sanders in the Democratic primaries Rowdyboy Nov 2014 #61

Yeah, I'm not even going there Recursion Nov 2014 #63

Nothing Warren says or does will make Hillary any more palatable to me. djean111 Nov 2014 #67

I'm a Schweitzer fan, so obviously making Clinton more palatable is not on my agenda Recursion Nov 2014 #69

Why the obvious hope for exploding heads or whatever? It is tacky and jeering. djean111 Nov 2014 #71

They'll ignore it or get mad if you point out the cognitive dissonance. MADem Nov 2014 #80

So true. nt Bobbie Jo Nov 2014 #96

it's not about the person, it's the policies yurbud Nov 2014 #86

A "party" vote? LWolf Nov 2014 #87

Warren should not be doing this. TheNutcracker Nov 2014 #91

Flame Bait. Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #99