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MineralMan

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19. I'm not a father, so I can't speak to my own reaction, but
Thu Dec 22, 2011, 01:44 PM
Dec 2011

I've certainly heard a lot of fathers talk about this in relation to their own daughters. It's very troubling for them, and they aren't sure what to do about it, either. "You're not leaving the house dressed like that" is pretty ineffectual today, just as it has been in the past. Fathers stress about this stuff a lot when it comes to their own daughters. Sadly, the issue is often complicated by those same fathers having their eye caught by a woman who is dressed to attract attention.

We're awfully complicated, we humans. There's so much situational complexity to our reactions.

And then there are adolescents and 20-somethings. For many of them, all of this is ridiculous. Their priorities are sometimes quite different from those of an older generation. Personally, I remember being in that age group, and appearances were far more important to me at the time than they are now. If I think back on that earlier time, I can clearly see what the motivations of me and my peers were, and of both sexes. They were different than they are now.

I'm just not sure what the answer is, to be frank. I'm really not.

dehumanizes. my half mexican niece, had a choice of 8 girls. 7 darker hair, darker eyes. ONE seabeyond Dec 2011 #1
Pretty awful. It's horrible that kids are exposed to these messages from the media and society. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #2
See if you can follow this JustAnotherGen Dec 2011 #4
when did we give up the power of our sexuality and self-image to Hugh Hefner seabeyond Dec 2011 #7
I think they pretty much took it, don't you think? whathehell Dec 2011 #14
if the guys are yelling boobies, boobies, strip for me and the girl says seabeyond Dec 2011 #25
Well, that's the way I used to respond to guys when I was young whathehell Dec 2011 #33
you have to look at their environment today. they have been raised being pornified. seabeyond Dec 2011 #35
Yes, you certainly have a point there....EVERYTHING was different then whathehell Dec 2011 #36
a couple things. VS use to be about the woman and empowering her sexuality. it was all about her. seabeyond Dec 2011 #37
Good point JustAnotherGen Dec 2011 #43
Thanks for sharing this article, Sarah. The articles nails it. left coaster Dec 2011 #3
Quite true. Unfortunately, unless it gets pointed out to us we often don't notice it. Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #5
One Reason Women RobinA Dec 2011 #10
Very true. And we buy it because the media does have an influence upon our thinking Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #18
That's interesting. Sometimes, it's hard to define the difference between MineralMan Dec 2011 #12
I agree with you Mineral Man. People want to look nice to the opposite sex. The problem is... Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #23
You're right. The evening news, especially on MineralMan Dec 2011 #28
So true, Mineral Man, it's so out of place. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #32
everyone of my conversations conclude, though an issue for women, it is mans, too. human issue seabeyond Dec 2011 #30
Just like that stupid Piperline Ad obamanut2012 Dec 2011 #6
Thanks! Which Piperline ad? I don't think I saw it. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #8
This thread obamanut2012 Dec 2011 #9
Interesting. And women are supposed to take that lightly and not get upset by it. Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #11
I think women should take that seriously, and communicate their frustration with that ad MineralMan Dec 2011 #13
Thank you, Mineral Man. It's good to see when someone gets it. We're so inundated by Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #16
I'm not a father, so I can't speak to my own reaction, but MineralMan Dec 2011 #19
Yup obamanut2012 Dec 2011 #15
Yeah! We need to be happy and smile through it all! nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #17
I didn't say that we needed to lighten up. MineralMan Dec 2011 #20
I never said you did, nor even mentioned you obamanut2012 Dec 2011 #21
Sorry. I thought you were referring to one of my posts MineralMan Dec 2011 #26
Okay obamanut2012 Dec 2011 #27
Love this piece... redqueen Dec 2011 #22
You're welcome, Redqueen! nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #24
women smear their faces with colored mud...errr...makeup. Why? cost $$ billions a year nt msongs Dec 2011 #29
It's very expensive! The beauty industry makes a mint off women. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #31
i am bummed. this was a very good OP. can you edit and put it back in? seabeyond Dec 2011 #34
I would love to read this OP. While I'm sure I'd agree with the case being made, retread Dec 2011 #38
I'm not sure what you mean, but I'll be glad to do it, if you explain lol Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #39
NEVER MIND! I SAW IT! I'll edit. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #40
I edited it and put it back, then I recommended it. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #41
k&r Starry Messenger Dec 2011 #42
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