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daredtowork

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3. Let me speculate on what might be making it difficult for Democrats to win

Thu Nov 13, 2014, 06:41 PM

Nov 2014

Could it be that there is an ongoing effort to DISENFRANCHISE the base that would vote Democrat because they would vote for redistributionist policies whereas the Big Money donors the DLC and Third Way were courting were rabidly against any policy that bore the slightest whiff of redistribution for social purposes.

The new economic philosophy was to seize politics and redistribute financial power to business "leaders" who would uses their concentrated wealth to keep the political machines in place.

The American people need to stop fearing the word "redistribution" and use the power of the vote at every level to allocate resources back to building public infrastructure and developing social resources - creating a civilization that we all get to live in.

I'd like to make it a slogan: "Stop the Suffering - Redistribute Now!"

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Greider: The trouble started when the party abandoned its working-class base. [View all] madfloridian Nov 2014 OP

Cannot K&R this hard enough or often enough!! hifiguy Nov 2014 #1

I find myself wondering what effect the war on public education.... madfloridian Nov 2014 #2

It's left us with CrispyQ Nov 2014 #24

Let me speculate on what might be making it difficult for Democrats to win daredtowork Nov 2014 #3

The big three are hifiguy Nov 2014 #4

Read the post at your link. madfloridian Nov 2014 #6

Thank you for your kind smilie. hifiguy Nov 2014 #7

I'll join you in that toast.. hear, here! 2banon Nov 2014 #19

oh god, I almost wish I hadn't have looked daredtowork Nov 2014 #8

Powerful post, hifiguy. Needs to be an OP, imo. nt Mnemosyne Nov 2014 #11

Sank without a trace last week hifiguy Nov 2014 #13

infrastructure is not the only way to re-distribute hfojvt Nov 2014 #85

Yeah I understand the weaselwording in "redistribution" daredtowork Nov 2014 #105

Obama and Clinton, the DLC/Third Way, and all the "New" Democrats .. blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #5

+1000 n/t MissDeeds Nov 2014 #57

Dead fucking on. K&R TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #9

Gee. Maybe Hillary can save us. Hoppy Nov 2014 #10

Some people can find humor in anything. bvar22 Nov 2014 #14

We're just lucky she survived the sniper fire in Elbonia. Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #27

Elbonia? I thought it was hifiguy Nov 2014 #41

No, no no arikara Nov 2014 #71

Not only have they crept away from the blue-collar base, but Baitball Blogger Nov 2014 #12

Absolutely theHandpuppet Nov 2014 #52

They have been trying to lure in right wingers AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #73

+1 Marr Nov 2014 #75

Agree with your basic points and the OP especially re disaffected, many lost blue-collar workers. appalachiablue Nov 2014 #94

I'm sure the kings of condescension will not look kindly on this post... KG Nov 2014 #15

That's okay. madfloridian Nov 2014 #16

I took a year off as well hifiguy Nov 2014 #17

How can you tell how many have you on Ignore? Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #29

I don't think it is there anymore. madfloridian Nov 2014 #33

I think I had about a dozen. Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #34

Your POWER is greatly to be feared ... Yo_Mama Nov 2014 #61

"an agenda that has pretty strong appeal" madfloridian Nov 2014 #67

They are yapping away to no effect. Rex Nov 2014 #102

I'm not sure why 'progressive' writers still push the 'Clinton financialization' myth wyldwolf Nov 2014 #18

So the drift away from the people started earlier than that. madfloridian Nov 2014 #20

Your 'hijack' statement is debatable. Edit: Found the link wyldwolf Nov 2014 #23

Infiltrated a better word? madfloridian Nov 2014 #38

Actually that's even more debatable wyldwolf Nov 2014 #39

You can play word games and nitpick about which is best. madfloridian Nov 2014 #44

I'm doing neither. Just providing some historical reference. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #50

hmm... chervilant Nov 2014 #54

hmmm... wyldwolf Nov 2014 #55

Wow... chervilant Nov 2014 #78

No, you said "uber wealthy corporate megalomaniacs." wyldwolf Nov 2014 #80

Bleh... chervilant Nov 2014 #82

LOL. Thought so. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #84

So predictable... chervilant Nov 2014 #103

yeah I know, right? That kind of revolutionary rhetoric sounds so cartoonish. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #104

Hello, for a wee mo... chervilant Nov 2014 #106

I knew you'd miss me. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #107

Even with MSM calling the game plays and declaring winners for us? Come on, clearly they are the mother earth Nov 2014 #79

Examples? wyldwolf Nov 2014 #81

Yay! More bashing of progressives LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #92

They didn't "abandon" them. They used, and are using, their labor and wealth to inflate the assets jtuck004 Nov 2014 #21

Now that's a good point. madfloridian Nov 2014 #64

mark for tomorrow rurallib Nov 2014 #22

I can only imagine if the Dem party would have embraced the 99% movement. IMAGINE ...is the key word L0oniX Nov 2014 #25

I absolutely agree! jopacaco Nov 2014 #26

When we won in 06 and 08, the day after the election they called for post-partisanship. madfloridian Nov 2014 #45

Well, now that Harry Reid is in charge, things will get better... Android3.14 Nov 2014 #28

K/R x100 840high Nov 2014 #30

It's been a fiasco. K&R Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #31

Greider's piece is a must read. pa28 Nov 2014 #32

"I don't think they care about winning again" madfloridian Nov 2014 #37

My stomach turned tonight watching Chris Matthews October Nov 2014 #35

I had to quit watching him several years ago. madfloridian Nov 2014 #40

He gushes over Rand Paul AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #76

Centrist are to blame 4dsc Nov 2014 #36

Centrists abandon everyone AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #77

Much of the Working Class Abandoned the Democratic Party First AndyTiedye Nov 2014 #42

You can not blame Reagan for the policies our party supports now. madfloridian Nov 2014 #43

Precise analysis. grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #46

Kick, recommend, and pray for things to change Wella Nov 2014 #47

Rather interesting assessment of the left, liberals, and the middle. Liberal Moonbat blog. madfloridian Nov 2014 #48

That was interesting, to say the least. nt LWolf Nov 2014 #60

They were bought by big business and Wall Street. Kablooie Nov 2014 #49

Thank you for this chervilant Nov 2014 #51

Great thread theHandpuppet Nov 2014 #53

Excellent post again, mad!!!! wavesofeuphoria Nov 2014 #56

They sold us out to the corporations alarimer Nov 2014 #58

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Nov 2014 #59

This rang so true to my ears Yo_Mama Nov 2014 #62

Again. You bring us things we need to see. Thank you. Jakes Progress Nov 2014 #63

3 great links, thank you! That paragraph by Brenner is so true. madfloridian Nov 2014 #72

"It's my party and I'll cry if I want to" Jakes Progress Nov 2014 #108

The Republicans didn't marginalize their angriest, we did Babel_17 Nov 2014 #65

It's worrisome to me how little turnout we had Tsiyu Nov 2014 #66

Concur 100% colsohlibgal Nov 2014 #68

Bookmarked! Martin Eden Nov 2014 #69

Absolutely and Wall Street is pulling the same old trick they have always pulled. gordianot Nov 2014 #70

He's asbolutely spot-on. Clinton and the corporate faction of the Democratic Party Marr Nov 2014 #74

Financial deregulation via Rubin of Citi whose head Sandy Weil had long called for it was also appalachiablue Nov 2014 #97

Here in the deep south, the working class base is pretty solidly Republican. n/t cheapdate Nov 2014 #83

Crush the Unions, hurt the Middle Class! Period! wolfie001 Nov 2014 #86

The problem is that the working class abandoned Democrats in the 70s. Drunken Irishman Nov 2014 #87

All I ever hear from the democrats in Washington is middle class, middle class, ...... Hotler Nov 2014 #88

Working class women and minorities overwhelmingly vote Democratic YoungDemCA Nov 2014 #89

Not necessarily madfloridian Nov 2014 #91

What would Goldman think of that? Octafish Nov 2014 #90

Because Money LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #93

no more CLINTONS. bbgrunt Nov 2014 #95

There's also the popular game amongst the Beltway Villagers called "Kick the Hippie". Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #96

'Kick the Hippie'? Is that a fact. Fightin' words to this WDC resident. Care to elaborate? appalachiablue Nov 2014 #98

That's where everyone laughs and pats each other on the back as they reject liberal ideas. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #100

Well, buying politicians isn't cheap and the working class can't afford them. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #99

K&R! n/t Kermitt Gribble Nov 2014 #101