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178. Talk about an easy target for ISIL supporters to attack now that they hate Canada as much as they

Fri Nov 14, 2014, 12:18 PM

Nov 2014

hate the US. This cannot be in the national security interest of the US for more than one reason...for starters...it is an environmental hazard for citizens whose lands it will cross and can poison our water across the land; it is also expensive because you know damn well it will cost the Federal government a boatload of money for clean ups, health issues etc.; it will not create many jobs that funding national infrastructure problems would; and finally, our energy production has increased substantially under this President. This pipeline will cut efforts to invest in alternative energy sources that are now taking root. I hope the President does what he says and if the GOP passes over his veto, then let the outcome rest on them and those who helped them override.

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Breaking: Pres Obama's Press Sec, Josh Earnest, says he Will VETO any Legislation to Force Approval [View all] Cha Nov 2014 OP

wOOt! babylonsister Nov 2014 #1

Damn! Nice to come online to see this immediately, babylonsistah.. and then getting to DU and Cha Nov 2014 #6

Talk about an easy target for ISIL supporters to attack now that they hate Canada as much as they kelliekat44 Nov 2014 #178

Good! Does the Senate have the votes to override the veto? (I hope not) peacebird Nov 2014 #2

It's close Cali_Democrat Nov 2014 #5

I don't know yet, peacebird. Cha Nov 2014 #7

Needs only two more votes to override the VETO yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #37

Could you provide a link where it states there are already 65 votes lined up... Spazito Nov 2014 #46

It's the House that needs 2/3 Majority to override INdemo Nov 2014 #174

Both houses need a 2/3rds majority to override a veto... Spazito Nov 2014 #177

yeah...not the way it works - Care to update your post? demwing Nov 2014 #184

Kick for the President who went to China and got an historic Deal for Climate Change and now Cha Nov 2014 #3

Thank you! nt G_j Nov 2014 #4

Thank you, G_J Cha Nov 2014 #8

I Didn't Know A Press Secretary Had Veto Power...... global1 Nov 2014 #9

Oh dear! Pres Obama gave Josh the Power since he(the Prez) was in China! Cha Nov 2014 #15

After years of stalling, when push came to shove, I knew he'd veto. So did RFK, Jr. freshwest Nov 2014 #10

Thank you, freshwest! I was just thinking I need to find that email to thank the President I posted Cha Nov 2014 #18

I haven't seen that. Is it in your Journal files? freshwest Nov 2014 #60

It may be.. it should be! but, I added this to the OP that I just google! Thanks! Cha Nov 2014 #62

But but he's the same as Republicans mcar Nov 2014 #11

Oh that.. disingenuous poppycock. I won't say what I was going to .. Cha Nov 2014 #19

I hear you cha mcar Nov 2014 #39

.. Cha Nov 2014 #42

So's Hillary from what i read! 7962 Nov 2014 #21

Well, she's not.. and I'm not a Hillary Supporter. But I do know the Difference between her and Cha Nov 2014 #44

I shouldve said "from what I read here". I'm sure you've seen enough posts. nt 7962 Nov 2014 #115

Oh yeah.. sorry.. I knew you knew better! :) Cha Nov 2014 #117

Now this is something I can get excited about. Very cool. nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #12

Well that answers a question I just asked in another thread. HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #13

And, what was that, dear Here? :) Cha Nov 2014 #20

Would Obama use the capital he's gaining supporting left positions to veto Keystone HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #24

Guess so! Cha Nov 2014 #29

Yes, as I said this thread answered that question. HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #33

Hell yes! Live VS Death. Wish I were being dramatic.. but Noooo.. this shite is real. Cha Nov 2014 #38

Meh. blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #14

Feh. OilemFirchen Nov 2014 #27

We'll see. A more accurate headline is likely to be: woo me with science Nov 2014 #16

I dont think they'd have the 2/3s needed. 7962 Nov 2014 #23

So in other words... Cali_Democrat Nov 2014 #26

"Become"?? Number23 Nov 2014 #91

Doom and gloom. Andy823 Nov 2014 #28

Please tell me, woo, from your "lots of experience" brer cat Nov 2014 #49

You're right to be cynical after the last few decades. polichick Nov 2014 #63

If by some chance it is vetoed woo me with science Nov 2014 #77

Thanks - I'll check it out. polichick Nov 2014 #85

A con game!? sheshe2 Nov 2014 #128

I thought "woome's" work was done here. Old and In the Way Nov 2014 #133

But it WILL give him/her plenty to continue to be speculatively wrong about. eom 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #168

... SidDithers Nov 2014 #193

Rock n' Rolllllll flamingdem Nov 2014 #17

LOL "headbanging the repubs".. Cha Nov 2014 #32

Caring for the climate flamingdem Nov 2014 #22

Brilliant, flamingdem! Here's to Lame Ducks who are Cha Nov 2014 #35

I'll send a comment for sure flamingdem Nov 2014 #41

Beautiful, brilliant bird! I'm not a pet person.. my favorite creatures are birds in the wild.. and Cha Nov 2014 #51

Pretty boidies! I agree Cha flamingdem Nov 2014 #109

I've kept track mentally, of the number of threats that the GOP issued over the KXL. freshwest Nov 2014 #25

You are a wizard, freshwest... ReRe Nov 2014 #104

I pretty sure I can completely do without republicans Half-Century Man Nov 2014 #30

Yeah! Cha Nov 2014 #120

So Cha are you telling me Andy823 Nov 2014 #31

I would say there has been a lot to be worried about G_j Nov 2014 #45

I agree Andy823 Nov 2014 #52

Yes, there is.. and, I'm one of those people.. as are all my buddies. And, we're grateful for the Cha Nov 2014 #66

Having too much fun wallowing in it.. to even know about this latest news?.. Cha Nov 2014 #55

What a relief. it wouldn't make sense to forge a historical climate myrna minx Nov 2014 #34

Yes, it is "promising" myrna! It didn't make sense to me, either. Cha Nov 2014 #56

Say goodbye to Landrieu, branford Nov 2014 #36

Whatever. Cha Nov 2014 #67

Just don't act surprised if there's no veto or it's overridden by this Congress or the next. branford Nov 2014 #82

No worries.. this is a good sign for now. And, I'm contacting the WH and thanking the President. Cha Nov 2014 #84

I tend to think he's doing this to help Landrieu out... joeybee12 Nov 2014 #40

I think he's doing this for the right reasons that are stated in the OP.. and If it helps Mary Cha Nov 2014 #69

K&R BumRushDaShow Nov 2014 #43

Mahalo BRDS! Cha Nov 2014 #70

Aloha Cha and morning kick! BumRushDaShow Nov 2014 #165

k&r... spanone Nov 2014 #47

Mahalo, spanone! Good Sign! Cha Nov 2014 #78

The title is a string of weasel words NickB79 Nov 2014 #48

You're being rope a doped.. the rest of us are seeing this as a Good Sign.. Have fun. Cha Nov 2014 #59

So the way they keep phrasing this issue doesn't concern you at all? NickB79 Nov 2014 #81

The Senate wants to fasttrack Keystone.. the President will VETO that.. Good! Cha Nov 2014 #83

Very good, except... NickB79 Nov 2014 #93

what are you talking about???? Number23 Nov 2014 #94

Random thought ... Completely unrelated to the post you responded to, above ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #172

Desperation becomes them! Number23 Nov 2014 #199

It is very clear, if people were willing to read more than a headline NickB79 Nov 2014 #214

Hello! I know that.. one bloody thing at a time. And, this is what the Pres said in Myanmar Cha Nov 2014 #215

Now, this is sounding more like the guy I voted for twice Jack Rabbit Nov 2014 #50

I was super glad to see this good sign, JR Cha Nov 2014 #64

Like I said before, Obama is done taking shit from asshole rightwingers who will NEVER randys1 Nov 2014 #53

OMG! A list mcar Nov 2014 #73

Wow, randy! Mahalo for all the Examples of "Continuing the Get Shite Done"! Cha Nov 2014 #74

Link right here... randys1 Nov 2014 #181

Mahalo! Cha Nov 2014 #195

Love Hawaii, Love Maui, lOve love love randys1 Nov 2014 #197

Yeah, but ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #173

My newspaper was wet this morning, THANKS OBAMA! randys1 Nov 2014 #182

And that ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #186

I honestly believe that if enough of us got together and made it clear randys1 Nov 2014 #189

In all fairness ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #191

I knew he would veto it, Cha!! sheshe2 Nov 2014 #54

As flamingdem says.. the President is really just a Cha Nov 2014 #75

K & R malaise Nov 2014 #57

I know.. it's a great sign!.. mahalo malaise Cha Nov 2014 #76

K&R! napkinz Nov 2014 #58

Mahalo to you, napkinz! Cha Nov 2014 #80

Canadian media are already reporting that a "veto is looming" Spazito Nov 2014 #61

Thank you for that great addition from Canada, Spazito! Lets hope they don't have enough Cha Nov 2014 #86

From what I have read is, to date, there might be 58 votes for the bill... Spazito Nov 2014 #95

Thank you for that, Spazito.. We're gonna see! In the mean time.. there's contact # in OP to Thank Cha Nov 2014 #97

Thanks, Cha, I hope the WH is innundated with positive calls! Spazito Nov 2014 #99

No doubt! Those who Genuinely Care about our Planet Earth should Cha Nov 2014 #100

For sure! Spazito Nov 2014 #103

Zeroing in.. here's another scene from Earth.. Cha Nov 2014 #105

Aurora Borealis is one of nature's most beautiful shows, imo Spazito Nov 2014 #112

Oh, you Lucky dawg! I chose the right pic to highlight from Iceland, then! Brrrrr! But Beautiful! Cha Nov 2014 #113

P.S. Spazito.. have you seen this.."Keystone XL? What Keystone XL? Canada quietly approves alternate Cha Nov 2014 #111

Yes, the post is in error, Keystone is still very much alive in Canada as are protests... Spazito Nov 2014 #116

Thank you for the reality on this.. And, a Special Mahalo to First Nations in Canada! Cha Nov 2014 #118

First Nations have been on the front lines in the many protests against the various... Spazito Nov 2014 #123

I love them! Cha Nov 2014 #134

An aside, Cha, but I thought you might like to see what Canadians think of President Obama... Spazito Nov 2014 #130

outside of the obvious angrychair Nov 2014 #65

OIL! thanks angrychair Cha Nov 2014 #98

Well Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2014 #68

It's a great sign, PLD! Cha Nov 2014 #107

Wait! I thought Obama BAD BAD BAD!! You mean he's not as bad or worse than Bush Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #71

Those profiteering pundits would rather make a buck off of Cha Nov 2014 #114

Had to drop a note to WH.gov (for whatever it's worth) and say thank-you. nc4bo Nov 2014 #72

I think it will be worth a Lot, nc4bo! Thank you! I Encourage others to do the same! :)))) Cha Nov 2014 #106

Here's another good reason to veto Keystone. muntrv Nov 2014 #79

Thank you for that, muntrv.. I guess so "quietly"! Cha Nov 2014 #110

This calls for a HUGE blast of email support. Go for it now! n/t eridani Nov 2014 #87

Thanks, eridani! That's what I was thinking when I edited in the Contact #!!!!!!!! Cha Nov 2014 #90

Hey now! grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #88

K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2014 #89

HAhaHAAAHA!! Oh Cha, you have just knocked a colossally stupid whine here clear off its pedestal Number23 Nov 2014 #92

They're too busy getting it straight to even notice current events.. Cha Nov 2014 #96

It won't matter much. The crew, or FOW has 1SBM calls them, will rush to rec and rec and rec Number23 Nov 2014 #101

There's Recs Guaranteed Bashing the President.. they don't have to make sense I won't mention by Cha Nov 2014 #102

K & R Iliyah Nov 2014 #164

That is EXCELLENT, Cha! Kath1 Nov 2014 #108

Aloha, Kath! This is a really Good Sign! No Fast Tracking.. and Now if we all Write to the WH and Cha Nov 2014 #119

I'll be calling AND writing! Kath1 Nov 2014 #121

Comments: 202-456-1111 Switchboard: 202-456-1414 For those who don't know the numbers.. Cha Nov 2014 #124

President Obama has the mandate! Kath1 Nov 2014 #126

As Depressed as we all were the night of the Midterm Disaster of 2014, Kath.. We had this Cha Nov 2014 #127

Can't wait to see her with the good news! Kath1 Nov 2014 #129

Yes, the Strongest Supporter of Women's Rights, LGBT Rights, Civil Rights, and Cha Nov 2014 #131

Yes, Cha! Kath1 Nov 2014 #132

Obama Is Having a Really Good Week for a Lame Duck President Cha Nov 2014 #135

Obama made them look like hysterical, reactionary idiots! Kath1 Nov 2014 #137

Are they sorry now.. those who disowned him? Damn they were cold! Cha Nov 2014 #138

They should be sorry! Kath1 Nov 2014 #140

You're making that pretty clear.. LOL Cha Nov 2014 #141

LOL! Kath1 Nov 2014 #145

Please check this out, Kath.. our President getting busy on Cha Nov 2014 #146

Oh, and this from the President in our emails.. Cha Nov 2014 #139

That is excellent! Kath1 Nov 2014 #143

Told her all about it today, Cha! Kath1 Nov 2014 #202

Brilliant, Kath! Obama is Doubling Down on this today in Myanmar! Strong lanuage! Cha Nov 2014 #203

Saw your other post, sister! Kath1 Nov 2014 #204

I saw you posted rather fast.. like you had already seen it! YAY! Thank you! Cha Nov 2014 #205

Environmental News.. who could have predicted the Gov would make $$$$$ of Solyndra Loan.. Cha Nov 2014 #122

Who's Got The Mandate?! Cha Nov 2014 #125

VETO PEN Fast Trackers! Cha Nov 2014 #136

I Support the President Efforts on the Environment and have Contacted the White House! Cha Nov 2014 #142

100th Rec! Great stuff. Hekate Nov 2014 #144

Mahalo for the 100th! Cha Nov 2014 #147

I think Obama is pissed off at the right wing right now... C Moon Nov 2014 #148

Yeah, C Moon.. they thought they had him cornered and then Cha Nov 2014 #149

:) Even the L.A. Times ran an article saying the world was ditching him... C Moon Nov 2014 #150

"The World was Ditching him".. OMZ, LA Times! Really? Cha Nov 2014 #151

I'll try to find it and edit this with the link... C Moon Nov 2014 #152

Thanks! I hear ya on the saving your stomach.. Cha Nov 2014 #153

Here's the article (can't find it at L.A. Times, probably because you have to subcribe)... C Moon Nov 2014 #154

I can't see it but that's okay.. thank you! Wonder if that person who wrote it is shaking his head Cha Nov 2014 #155

Damn. Well, here's some of the text... C Moon Nov 2014 #156

So much for the "analysts", C Moon.. thank you! Cha Nov 2014 #157

+1 C Moon Nov 2014 #160

I love this. Rex Nov 2014 #158

Veto Keystone! Cha Nov 2014 #159

VETO VETO VETO! Cha Nov 2014 #161

To VETOS by Obama! Cha Nov 2014 #162

Veto Keystone Cha Nov 2014 #163

See, there's no difference between the parties IronLionZion Nov 2014 #166

K Cha Nov 2014 #167

Great! florida08 Nov 2014 #169

He's only saying to wait for the state Department to sign off. Orsino Nov 2014 #170

It's a start.. No fast tracking and if the State Dept does their job they'll know that it is bad for Cha Nov 2014 #194

Well, that's nice to hear - packman Nov 2014 #171

For law makers that vote YEA, there will be a full frontal sammy750 Nov 2014 #175

Here's one good reason to veto. muntrv Nov 2014 #176

Breaking out the pen and paper humbled_opinion Nov 2014 #179

It's a lot easier to veto now that there isn't so much money to be made from it anyway thesquanderer Nov 2014 #180

They want to build it, make no mistake... Spazito Nov 2014 #192

This is not new. He's been against forcing approval since the process started (nt) Recursion Nov 2014 #183

I guess it took this midterm beating for O to finally grow a pair Dopers_Greed Nov 2014 #185

I hope this is true n/t Tsiyu Nov 2014 #187

"It�s good to see the White House drawing a line ... staggerleem Nov 2014 #188

I don't understand the "told you so's". He's not promising to veto the pipeline. Marr Nov 2014 #190

he's not promising that either Enrique Nov 2014 #196

Good point. They make it sound like he has promised to stop the thing, woo me with science Nov 2014 #206

Guess they don't have the votes to override Boom Sound 416 Nov 2014 #198

Kick, dammit! Number23 Nov 2014 #200

Now he's doubling down in Myanmar, 23.. Cha Nov 2014 #201

He said as much in his post-election day press conference. ucrdem Nov 2014 #207

Oh yeah? I missed that.. there's some great quotes from his presser in Mynamar today.. Cha Nov 2014 #208

He said it diplomatically of course but it was pretty clear. ucrdem Nov 2014 #209

The "Obama glad the gop won it" crowd.. Cha Nov 2014 #210

Yep. The ODS carnival never ends does it? ucrdem Nov 2014 #211

He has nothing to lose. Break out all the liberal policies you want and obstruct the GOP. EEO Nov 2014 #212

Yeah, and the 2016 Dem candidate.. can run from him at their own peril, EEO! Cha Nov 2014 #213