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TheKentuckian

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47. If the military was for what we are supposed to pretend it does then

Wed Apr 18, 2012, 11:57 PM

Apr 2012

some honor would be obvious the problem is the reality seldom fits the frame.

That means the frame has to be busted and you aren't going to do that by turning away from the grunts because you amplify reaction and suppress thought. You are going up against the visceral programming, asking folks to tone it down on the respect levels for the people risking their lives for US.
That will almost never work, not on a mass conscience level. You're swimming upstream of too many generations of instincts and deep societal programing.

What we have to do is wrap our heads around the game that has been run and stop falling for the appeals to fear, the tugs to the heart strings, and divert those resources and people into the larger economy.

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I don't think it's healthy or good that we lionize those who serve in the military [View all] cali Apr 2012 OP

Real heroes don't need to be lionized izquierdista Apr 2012 #1

You're right about that, iz. catbyte Apr 2012 #11

Spot on montanacowboy Apr 2012 #2

There's also a subtext I disagree with loyalsister Apr 2012 #3

You can't imagine the hurdles for a civilian montanacowboy Apr 2012 #4

Agree. Arugula Latte Apr 2012 #5

This worship of the military has reached a fever pitch at LibDemAlways Apr 2012 #6

Yep n2doc Apr 2012 #7

I spent 4 years doing absolutely nothing beneficial to anyone.. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2012 #8

Could't just say thanks Meiko Apr 2012 #20

What "service"? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2012 #26

If I were as embarrassed of my service as you are, I'd NEVER mention it. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #36

I'm not "embarrassed" by it. I just object to the glorification of the military. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2012 #44

I am sorry you Meiko Apr 2012 #48

Thanks for a very honest post! Logical Apr 2012 #38

Since we've continued our Imperialistic foreign policy cbrer Apr 2012 #9

R#7 & K. The mostly great Charlie RANGEL nailed it when he said economic necessity was/is UTUSN Apr 2012 #10

Copy it zipplewrath Apr 2012 #12

I think you are on the right track. The other point is... stevenleser Apr 2012 #14

Huge span between criticizing and "heroizing" them zipplewrath Apr 2012 #21

Ah, I misunderstood you. But I didn't mistake the 'criticizing' vs. 'lionizing' stevenleser Apr 2012 #24

Yes zipplewrath Apr 2012 #34

I have a son in the military Marrah_G Apr 2012 #13

It was ever so. Check out whose statues we erect. mainer Apr 2012 #15

I agree with that treestar Apr 2012 #16

+1 onenote Apr 2012 #27

Under that designation, the word hero is meaningless CBGLuthier Apr 2012 #30

The word "hero" has been meaningless for a very long time. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #37

I don't think that is the real problem - if someone is a real hero they deserve to be recognized. jwirr Apr 2012 #17

and part of glorifying war is glorifying those who go to war. cali Apr 2012 #18

Today it sure is. But I do not remember thinking my uncle and his friends WWII were that special jwirr Apr 2012 #19

Always been so zipplewrath Apr 2012 #28

I hear the truth in that. Maybe the reason I did not see a lot of that was because we were a farm jwirr Apr 2012 #29

+1 treestar Apr 2012 #33

When I think of a war hero my mind turns to Sgt.York. raouldukelives Apr 2012 #22

absolutely WCGreen Apr 2012 #23

York was indeed a hero. Another is Guy Gabaldon CBGLuthier Apr 2012 #31

Gabaldon's story's just incredible. Posteritatis Apr 2012 #32

Been saying that for years. Moreover... redgreenandblue Apr 2012 #25

It's not the military that's assumed the posture...it's the politicians who have used them as such.. cynatnite Apr 2012 #35

I disagree. Sparkly Apr 2012 #39

you kind of make my point. cali Apr 2012 #41

EXCELLENT POST REC'd BanTheGOP Apr 2012 #40

I've always respected Oasis_ Apr 2012 #42

ROAAAR! unionworks Apr 2012 #43

Every so often when I see pols/powers that be do what you speak of... rainbow4321 Apr 2012 #45

How DARE you not look at our soldiers as GODS. Zalatix Apr 2012 #46

"makin' mock o' uniforms unionworks Apr 2012 #49

If the military was for what we are supposed to pretend it does then TheKentuckian Apr 2012 #47

Lionizing Them Serves the State's Needs smoking357 Apr 2012 #50

Generally speaking, new recruits in the military are better educated than their immediate peers. SlimJimmy Apr 2012 #51

But what are the functions of this? JackRiddler Apr 2012 #52

kick cali May 2012 #53