Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
12. You know, I've waited for someone to ask this question
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 10:19 AM
Nov 2014

I'm only on my first bottle of Mountain Dew this cold Saturday morning so have some patience.

Speaking in terms of policy, I'm in your camp. If I could wave a magic wand and make all liberal policies the law of the land, I'd do that. Even if there are some I was on the fence on, I'd probably take the whole package instead of picking and choosing ala carte. If We suddenly found ourselves with a very liberal president and Congress - then I'd advocate screwing the GOP and ramming all the legislation through.

But none of that is likely to happen. In fact, the chances are slim. Very slim (I'd say the magic wand part is impossible.)

So where does that leave people like me? Supporting pragmatic Democrats who compromise for what we can get - which is incremental change, and fighting back against "progressive" authoritarianism. The 'all or nothing' mentality that comes out of the left is much more harmful than it is good. The tone of the 'far left,' with your "uber wealthy corporate megalomaniac overlord" revolutionary rhetoric is cartoonish. You call people 'elite' but it is you who sound elite talking like that.

Finally, the spinning of history by many on the left rivals that of the silliest shit Sarah Palin has ever said. Even recent history, verified in still available news sources, is spun and denied to fit the 'far left' world view.

Some on DU like to make fun of the old canard 'the perfect is the enemy of the good.' But it is absolutely true when applied here. Your resistance to getting organized and raising money to run effective campaigns is legendary. And your excuses when you lose (often having to do with the previously mentioned "uber wealthy corporate megalomaniac overlord&quot have become a staple in your playbook.

This is why I use the term 'progressive' in quotes as a noun to describe you. I'm progressive (adjective) but NOT a 'progressive' (noun) and why would I want to be?

Bwahahaha! Those policies are so old-fashioned Left Wing glitter-shitting ponies! djean111 Nov 2014 #1
Its not that we don't support them....DUH! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #2
But these are ideas that most Americans support Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #3
it fucking doesn't matter....WE know how they vote. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #5
Progressive policies have overwhelming support. Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #7
"Progressive Policies" will not be a name on a Ballot. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #8
sure. By "the People." Who the hell cares one tiny sh*t about them? librechik Nov 2014 #49
i am not owned....I am Democrat by choice.. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #53
The problem is that while voters keep polling that way, and keep voting for ballot measures, mythology Nov 2014 #13
Probably didn't help Pryor was against the minimum wage increase. TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #35
so you don't really "support them". Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #6
uh What? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #9
Well said! nt Mojorabbit Nov 2014 #51
I support all those things. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #4
Can you say the "far left" supports those things baldguy Nov 2014 #10
And yet the West Coast elected Democrats while reforming drug laws, expanding rights and Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #14
Please note the difference between those who only *claim* to be liberals, & those who actually are. baldguy Nov 2014 #17
The "far left" LWolf Nov 2014 #30
The problem is you're falsely conflating the nearly mythical "neo-liberal" with political realists. baldguy Nov 2014 #31
No, I'm not. LWolf Nov 2014 #32
And it's to the advantage of Republicans to sap support from Democrats. Which is what you're doing. baldguy Nov 2014 #34
No I'm not. LWolf Nov 2014 #37
Better for who? They're not better candidates if they lose, are they? baldguy Nov 2014 #39
They aren't better candidates if LWolf Nov 2014 #45
Right. You're one who thinks a Republican President is better than a Hillary President. baldguy Nov 2014 #46
False. Again. LWolf Nov 2014 #47
Donald Sagretti would be proud of you. baldguy Nov 2014 #50
I don't know who Donald Sagretti is, LWolf Nov 2014 #52
Deliberately conflating treestar Nov 2014 #11
In what way? I see no methods mentioned in the OP. Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #16
People disagree over how to obtain the goals treestar Nov 2014 #38
You know, I've waited for someone to ask this question wyldwolf Nov 2014 #12
And thus you shit upon the Democratic segments that have given the Party all the recent victory Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #15
How so? wyldwolf Nov 2014 #19
+ 100 JoePhilly Nov 2014 #23
Yes and it's bull they are being "shit on" treestar Nov 2014 #41
I truly resent the divide that has formed. moriah Nov 2014 #27
Well in your rush to sound like a condescending jerk you missed the point Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #18
I didn't miss the point in your intentionally clueless OP wyldwolf Nov 2014 #21
Banning all firearms or limiting magazines to 7 is pretty "far-left". moriah Nov 2014 #29
I don't disagree with you on either point Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #40
You're missing the point... brooklynite Nov 2014 #20
But everyone doesn't get their patch on the quilt immediately that way. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #22
It is tough to understand it treestar Nov 2014 #42
They support not voting if their candidate isn't perfect LadyHawkAZ Nov 2014 #24
"realist" is like "Biblical literalist": they lose elections way more than progs, even in Arkansas MisterP Nov 2014 #25
uh nope VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #26
Let's do a head count. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #28
+1 LostInAnomie Nov 2014 #36
Exactly. Pick a deep red district where treestar Nov 2014 #43
Mingling with irrational realists seveneyes Nov 2014 #33
That I support, or that I think the Democrats should run on? Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2014 #44
I support all of them. But I don't blame a candidate for not getting them passed bhikkhu Nov 2014 #48
The people who did not vote this year Hari Seldon Nov 2014 #54
3 iAddie's gwheezie Nov 2014 #55
3 issues gwheezie Nov 2014 #56
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Hey all you political rea...»Reply #12