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DFW

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14. I give many hoots about Russia. Have been there, speak the language, have friends there
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 10:19 AM
Nov 2014

Plus, it's right down the road from me (globally speaking), and is (or should be) an important trading partner. Plus, environmentally, they're a wreck, and need help to preserve their vast wilderness and resources. Lake Baikal has 20% of the world's surface fresh water plus some unique (to the area) animals and plants found nowhere else.

Putin knows full well he has no military invasion to fear from the west. He surrounds himself with loyal money men, destroys non-loyal money men, and make uncomfortable journalists disappear.

A westernized Ukraine had an economic potential for Russia, but also a political liability. As a newly westernized trading partner, he could have gotten Russia richer by letting it happen. He could also have a westernized basket case slowly turn prosperous on his doorstep, though given the corruption in place, it probably would take the Ukraine longer than Bulgaria to get there.

I think the young woman is exactly right--it's for the glory, and making Russians feel proud to be Russians again. A good friend of mine was chief correspondent for West German radio news in Russia for 5 years. It was during the end of the Yeltsin years, when a comparatively young Putin was setting up his power play. He has a Russian girlfriend who visits here, but continues to live in Russia, where he spends his summers. He says the country is essentially a wealthy basket case desperately trying to convince itself of glory days that aren't--sort of what would probably happen to us if the Republicans had complete power for thirty years straight. Brandish a gun, wave the flag, I'm so proud to be (an American/a Russian--take yer pick).

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That a balanced and informative article. Do you have a link for it? pampango Nov 2014 #1
I found it...! MADem Nov 2014 #3
Thanks MADem! DFW Nov 2014 #6
Google translate can produce hilarious results! nt MADem Nov 2014 #10
The love of "tough" guys is fairly universal... HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #2
" I believe Putin when he says that the people of the Crimea decided... sendero Nov 2014 #4
A lot of this sounds chillingly familiar. Brigid Nov 2014 #5
Indeed it does DFW Nov 2014 #7
And they're falling for it too. Brigid Nov 2014 #9
The support of or nostalgia for 'strong leaders' has a long history - Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Mao pampango Nov 2014 #16
What exactly did we expect Putin to do? CJCRANE Nov 2014 #8
I do not think it has ever occurs to some people that the whole world does not djean111 Nov 2014 #11
I give many hoots about Russia. Have been there, speak the language, have friends there DFW Nov 2014 #14
I'll add a bit to that. Igel Nov 2014 #32
Thanks for this information JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #56
Psychologically conservatives crave authority simplicity and order underpants Nov 2014 #12
Of course they do DFW Nov 2014 #21
That was the worst defense of Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #13
But it is a good refelection of their current state of mind DFW Nov 2014 #15
Nice post, DFW. n/t pampango Nov 2014 #23
I know why he's popular Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #33
you could reply with the almost cliche "are you better off now thant you were before putin?" Takket Nov 2014 #30
You would assume wrong. Igel Nov 2014 #34
It wasn't meant as a defense DFW Nov 2014 #49
No, Russia. These days, we do not "respect" you. sibelian Nov 2014 #17
Again a parallel to our Republicans DFW Nov 2014 #19
That's a very ethnocentric post. Igel Nov 2014 #35
"it's a sign of respect" - no, that's fear. sibelian Nov 2014 #37
What is interesting and points out the World's hyprocicy is avebury Nov 2014 #18
Different PR at work DFW Nov 2014 #20
Huh? Igel Nov 2014 #36
You would never see the west threatening to go to avebury Nov 2014 #40
Great, Russians love Putin Tommy2Tone Nov 2014 #22
So pretty much Russians prefer fascism to democracy? geek tragedy Nov 2014 #24
They prefer the devil they know DFW Nov 2014 #50
This sounds like propaganda to me. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #25
I know it does, but it's not. DFW Nov 2014 #52
Putin is a chickenshit chickenhawk like W and Cheney and Limbaugh and the rest randys1 Nov 2014 #26
I agree 100%. It's easy to appear tough when backed up by thousands of nukes and a large army stevenleser Nov 2014 #48
The ol +Me! Cha Nov 2014 #53
Russians love authoritarian dictators. Its in their DNA. JaneyVee Nov 2014 #27
Where in the human genome is that located? daleo Nov 2014 #46
translation: Takket Nov 2014 #28
quite revealing heaven05 Nov 2014 #29
Not always easy to distinguish between the two, is it? n/t DFW Nov 2014 #31
same thing all the little Heidis and Evas used to say about Uncle Adolf nt msongs Nov 2014 #38
She's trying to explain it, not completely trying to glorify it DFW Nov 2014 #39
I could condense this for you, young Russian ... tabasco Nov 2014 #41
Coming from a country that just put Joni Ernst into the Senate and elevated McTurtle to DFW Nov 2014 #43
Sorry, they don't speak for us and neither does the homophobic, journalist and internet Cha Nov 2014 #47
Why Putin Sucks, by Pussy Riot. Zorra Nov 2014 #42
Huh... that was druidity33 Nov 2014 #55
These people sound like Nazis. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #44
There's a reason Hitler originally signed a pact with Stalin DFW Nov 2014 #54
Recommend... KoKo Nov 2014 #45
Macho, macho UglyGreed Nov 2014 #51
Thanks for posting this JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #57
You get it DFW Nov 2014 #58
I'm probably open to it JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #59
The one thing I fault him on most is partially personal, so I'm not objective DFW Nov 2014 #60
Can't fault you for that JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #61
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